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The Arlberg Snow Report 2025/2026 (Dec 3th - April 19th) Lift Tix Prices Page 1

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badatbetting wrote:
Boom visa approved again!


Congratulations,

I was in St Anton this week. KK rebuild is very big, similar footprint to previously but they get an upstairs too and everything new. Currently walls and roof are up, insulation being fitted. A couple of metres of snow now would make construction interesting.
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Awesome stuff. I mean even if it isn't a good vibe it's just exciting to see an effectively new bar for the season!
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Lech am Arlberg

Investing heavily in Snowmaking (every year)...

The Muggengrat has also been installed with snowmaking over the summer:

This is normally very snow sure ...so I guess they are preparing for the worse.

A new pipeline is now being laid up to the Kriegerhorn valley station

New lines are ""right now October "" being excavated uo to the Schlegelkopf Mountainn station

Lech Bergbahn AG with Oberlech Lifts is currently planning a reservoir with a capacity of 250,000–270,000 m³



https://www.vol.at/dorfbahn-rotschrofenbahn-schlosskopfbahn-so-steht-es-um-die-liftplaene-am-arlberg/9697673

Dorfbahn, Rotschrofenbahn, Schlosskopfbahn: This is the status of the lift plans on the Arlberg

In order to keep a ski area attractive and running, new lifts are needed regularly. What the situation is on the Arlberg with regard to the known construction plans.

If you cannot read/access the above Link


The key points :

Schlosskopf: a 6-KSB is planned, the approval process for it is underway. But there are landowners who are against it.

Therefore, now a general overhaul planned in parallel. Currently, the revision is more likely than the new building.

Grubenalpbahn: joint solution with Schlosskopf was rejected. Sounds like the project has died.

Rotschrofen: Modernization is planned, possibly as 6-KSB. No schedule.

Dorfbahn Schröcken: Approval process underway. It will be a 10-EUB. No schedule

Note: I have heard that they are pressing to build the Dorfbahn Schröcken in the summer of 2026

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Warth am Arlberg

Additional Snowmaking works on the Salober is almost complete. Flühli slope is now covered in snow along ""its entire length""".

Ochsakopf and the upper part of the Salober Northface seem to remain natural snow slopes.

New snow cannons have been delivered and will be installed

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Taps

Egon (Owner) 60yr passed away last week
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Was Egon still managing the bar and involved with hiring etc, what impact is expected due to this?

Don't think I met him, but rest in peace and thank you for bringing my fav bar to st Anton
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Mooserwirt confirmed schlagerlieber first weekend. Both seem to be open air so I assume all outside?
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More October snow this morning though not enough to stop the building work on the Matt family ego project at the KK.
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The snowforcast showing me almost 20cm overnight this evening, waiting for epic pictures Smile
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@stanton, oooh look at me... i know all the gossip.... look who died.... let me spread it around so that i look really cool.

Do you really need to say such things here, some things are best left to the family and friends not an internet forum.
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Any news on proposed aerial link across Steisbachtal, Gampen/Galzig?
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@davidthornton, It was only @stanton, gossip. No more than an idea (if a good one) from the lift company. Dont believe any planning permission has currently been applied for so it is going to be a few years before the hordes on happy valley will be banished to the Hoppelweg! Still going to get bruised calves getting on the Mattunbahn Smile
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@hsdee, The passing (like all) was published in the Austrian media Traueranzeigen & Standesnachrichten also there are posts from locals that are publicly posted on Facebook last week ...

I could post them on here but have not as its old news now.

I am quite some days behind others posting this.....

Other notable passings (especially Apres Ski related) have been posted on here in the past ..

A very bizarre reaction from you "I look really cool" . Why did you even have to respond like that , that in itself is very strange. Shocked

So again..

This news is `not gossip , it is in the Public Domain as it legally should be...

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I could not post this in Piste section (get a error) so I am posting this here ...




TROPICAL NIGHTS IN AUSTRIA'S MOUNTAINS

The old September records were smashed by more than 3 degrees (previous: Hahnenkamm 17.0/1961, Loferer Alm 16.7/2024).
Never before - not even in the height of summer - has a tropical night been recorded in Austria above 1700 metres altitude!


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I was in Innsbruck  last Saturday (27th)  it was a warm 20C blue sky sunshine day but felt much warmer ...

Terraces were open & full pretty normal  for this time of year..

It will again hit 20C  middle of this week  but for at least the next  two weeks will remain between 5-18C daily in Innsbruck

When winter arrives it just drops 10 degrees overnight and that can be late October , November or December ...you never know when..it just like a light switch (off/on)!

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First Snows

Monday


http://youtube.com/v/jXbmEMqnwtE?

There is currently snow down to 2000Metres in Arlberg

A warm front is embedded .

Dense clouds will dominate on Tuesday and with some rain

Snow line will rise above 2000 m above sea level.

Wednesday, Thursday , more sun the temperatures will continue to rise.

Typical for this time of the year. quite pleasant.
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Great teaser from Patrick Baetz. Looks like nice ski tour route.

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/bEI5ffUWEBQ
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munich_irish wrote:
@davidthornton, It was only @stanton, gossip. No more than an idea (if a good one) from the lift company. Dont believe any planning permission has currently been applied for so it is going to be a few years before the hordes on happy valley will be banished to the Hoppelweg! Still going to get .bruised calves getting on the Mattunbahn Smile

It would be a significant upgrade to the area. Similar aerial links have been installed in other resorts, e.g. Kitzbuhel
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@davidthornton, I agree though my understanding of the concept was not a 3S type construction like Kitzbühel but more something along the lines of the Weibermahdbahn / Auenfeldjet with a mid station where the current bottom station of the Zamermoosbahn is. Hopefully somewhat faster!
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@davidthornton, I agree though my understanding of the concept was not a 3S type construction like Kitzbühel but more something along the lines of the Weibermahdbahn / Auenfeldjet with a mid station where the current bottom station of the Zamermoosbahn is. Hopefully somewhat faster!

Yes, present Zamermoosbahn could be replaced. As I understand, this project has been re-visited because of the mudslide that damaged the base station foundations.
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New lifts are nice but it would be even better to get some new or modified pistes. The more that lift capacity increases, the busier some of the slopes get. Steissbachtal and run 100 from Ulmerhutte to Rauz are so busy these days, and often Kandahar isn't much better.

A new piste from Galzig to St Anton would be good, and some kind of change to make the run down to Rauz a bit less chaotic down at the bottom end where it's a bit narrower and steeper would be even better than new lift infrastructure.
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@JohnS4, Very unlikely that anything like that would happen. There was some talk of turning the old ski route now an off piste run from Maiensee (St Christoph) to just above the Senn hut into a piste but dont think it is realistic. Too much construction required especially the installation of snow making kit and cutting down trees, it would be very difficult to get planning permission. Replacing lifts on a like for like basis is much more realistic. Doesnt help with the crowding issue though.
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We reckon arl one will be having the 'celebrities' performing this year? Or will a fancy new KK hold them instead?

I notice kuhstall in ischgl already has their line up out lol
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Weather

Nothing to get excited about yet....

A strong high-pressure area influence over the UK continues to reach as far as the Alps, which will not change much this week.

Until Friday, we will remain unchanged . Early Fog which will clear and it will generally remain very sunny.

The weekend, the high will then push its center from the west directly over the Alps. The air will become even drier, high fog will then hardly be an issue.

October weather at its best, this weekend it will remain autumnally mild.

Next week, the general weather situation will change, the weather will become more changeable.

Temperature remains high

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I wonder how this EES stuff is going to work for me. I head to Schengen on 22nd November but my visa isn't valid until 2nd December... Last time it was completely fine, but maybe they never really checked exactly what my dates were...

Getting a bit nervous I need to 'activate' my Austrian visa, I really don't know how it is meant to work. Last time I asked about that and they basically just looked blank and as if I was speaking in riddles...
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Also just saw on Instagram that arl one has a crane outside and seems to be doing some works. Anyone know what the changes are?
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@badatbetting, I dont think anyone has a clue how this is going to sort itself out. I came through Zürich on Tuesday and no sign of the machines at all, just long queues for non Schengen but none for me! If you have a visa does EES apply?
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badatbetting wrote:
I wonder how this EES stuff is going to work for me. I head to Schengen on 22nd November but my visa isn't valid until 2nd December... Last time it was completely fine, but maybe they never really checked exactly what my dates were...

Getting a bit nervous I need to 'activate' my Austrian visa, I really don't know how it is meant to work. Last time I asked about that and they basically just looked blank and as if I was speaking in riddles...


This might create issues for yourself . having two entry dates..

Your Passport will be scanned/stamped on the 22 Nov (entry) and you will need to have the leaving (exit ) stamp within 90days ..otherwise you will be seen as an overstay..

Without the Exit stamp you could potentially be flagged up if you try go elsewhere in Schengen next year


If I were you I would align your travel plans with your Visa validity .. i,e Enter on Dec 2nd ... This will save you a lot of potential hassle ..

I would not try to wing it , if you want future hassle free travel..


BTW.. EES has started already at Innsbruck , Vienna Airports,

November 17th for Zurich Airport Beigin

Munich Airport has started but 2nd phas will not be to April 9th 2026

Which Schengen Country will you enter through , If it is direct to Austria I would contact the Austrian Embassy in your home country and tell them about your plans and see what they say..??

But tbh ... The simplest way is to travel on your Visa Dates..

Of make a 10 day return trip from Nov 22 to Dec 1st or 2nd and then go out on your valid Visa .

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Cranes (fixed/mobile)

Throughout the summer well into the Auturm they have cranes up allover the region.. This could be for anything ..Renovations or just hauling heavy equipment into place
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Well I'm lazy and won't drive all the way to Austria from the UK in one day (I already live a 6 hour drive from the channel tunnel crossing), so the idea is to have a nice leisurely trip across Europe on the way to Austria for when our accommodation starts. I tried to ask the Austrian embassy whether this was allowed last year and they just ignored me lol, however when entering/leaving Schengen it was no problem at all.

It is my understanding from other forums that I am allowed my usual 90 days Schengen allowance (being a British citizen) prior to the visa (which allows me 5 months in Austria), and then technically the 90 days allowance after this also.

I would be entering and exiting through France (in my mates car). I hate how complicated this always seems every year, mainly due to the lack of clarity of people in the embassy in general... Ideally we could drive into the Austrian border on the 2nd December and get an employee to log our entry date, but in my experience these things don't exist lol
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@badatbetting, The reports are that currently EES is not in operation at Folkstone, not sure it makes any difference for you as you are entitled to transit other countries on the way to Austria. Unless you fly into Austria no one has a clue when you arrived! EES is not to do with 90 days in any case that is a different system (ETIAS) which is not currently operational.
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Guess we will see what is actually set up in a months time! It just sounds like a complete mess, and I feel like I'm not the sort of person who they want to ban from the Schengen zone based on some weird technicality. You just worry it could be a 'computer says no' situation...
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munich_irish wrote:
@badatbetting, ! EES is not to do with 90 days in any case that is a different system (ETIAS) which is not currently operational.


Incorrect Info Above.


Its precisely what the EES is For !!!

The EES 90-day rule refers to the 90-day limit for short stays in the Schengen Area for non-EU nationals, as managed by the new Entry/Exit System (EES). This rule allows you to stay for a maximum of 90 days within any 180-day period. The EES is an automated system that will digitally register your entry and exit dates, replacing the need for passport stamps for most travelers, although it is still being rolled out and manual stamping may be required for now.


badatbetting wrote:

It is my understanding from other forums that I am allowed my usual 90 days Schengen allowance (being a British citizen) prior to the visa (which allows me 5 months in Austria), and then technically the 90 days allowance after this also.
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If you enter on Nov 22nd you will need to get an exit stamp within 90days if you want to save yourself future travel hassle (in other EU Countries summer holidays etc)

I think if you present your Austrian Visa to French Border Police they will not have a clue what it is .. they will stamp your passport and that is where your problems will begin if you overstay 90 days and do not get that exit stamp !

I think you have complicated things for yourself .. by not aligning your travel dates with the Visa..

You cannot circumvent Government procedures in any Country... its just the way it works,
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@stanton, as ever you are wrong

EES is primarily an id system https://travel-europe.europa.eu/ees/what-is-the-ees## hence the fingerprint thing.

ETIAS is a system to manage visa free access to Schengen https://travel-europe.europa.eu/etias

They were supposed to introduced at the same time but that fell by the wayside a long time ago, ETIAS is now projected for some time next year, until then the manual stamping chaos will continue (probably!).

None of which has anything to do with skiing in the Arlberg!
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It's kind of impossible to align the travel dates with the visa though, unless you drive to Austria within one day which is brutal. It was fine last year so I'll assume it is fine again. I think at worst it'll just be a short conversation with immigration
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Autumn weather on the verge of a winter onslaught ??????

The action currently is over the British Isles i,e High & Low Pressure in the same place

Nordstau?i

Maybe maybe not if the system comes down from the northwest, it could mean a serious north (west) stau Very Happy Very Happy ,

This is most important snow god for Austria & Switzerland. Will wait as of course it depends on the exact course of this system

So this week in general for The European Alps

First days a lot of rain in the French Alps + W-Switzerland, snow from 2500-3000 meters

Rain and snow in Austria from Thursday (ARLBERG)

Maybe nord(west)stau from Friday ,,,Bring it ON !!!! (ARLBERG)

Most precipitation in French Alps.

Italy only occasional precipitation.

It still all really depends on the systems over the British Isles and if it does not play out then

the the Arlberg weather will be calm with a Föhn for Friday and Saturday




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44 Days Until the Lifts start Turning !
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Mooserwirt posted they're getting a new bar... any idea? Surely they just mean it is renovated or something...
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A very promising forecast from wepowder https://wepowder.com/en especially for St Anton with suggestions of nearly 1m up high over the next few days. Their automatic algorithm is often rather too optimistic with regard to snowfall amounts, even so a decent fall seems likely with maybe some wet stuff in the village. Looking beyond that some slightly milder weather seems likely but then colder for early November. All looks optimistic for the season start, though of course we could get a tropical interlude in a months time but currently no suggestion of that.
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Ok Folks

Next few days the freeze snow get below 1500m in the coming days and also around 1000m which is down valley towards Flirsch

The Freeze level will flutuate up and down until Sunday,

From Monday to Tuesday next week cold air will be inbound so on the North Western ridge there will be heavy snow showers down to almost 1000m

This means at least 50cms up above 2200 Metres !!

We had more than that in ""September""" last year (2024)

https://www.snowshortz.nl/historische-sneeuwval-in-oostenrijk-in-september-2024/

Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy
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The September stuff mostly melted before the season started though, hopefully this one will stick around
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The September stuff mostly melted before the season started though


...which is perfectly normal, and same goes for October snow... Cool
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Ski Busses

Change of regulation

WINTER

Guests:

For holiday guests, the regional public transport ticket remains included in the guest card. This allows guests to use the local buses (lines 1 to 10) free of charge during the day until 7:00 p.m., and on the valley line 270 until 7:30 p.m., as before.

What's new is that line 6 Verwall can also be used free of charge with the guest card


Winter sports enthusiasts

Use remains free of charge for locals, employees, and guests alike.

Winter sports enthusiasts are

o Skiers and snowboarders with appropriate winter sports equipment;
o Cross-country skiers with appropriate winter sports equipment;
o Tobogganers with appropriate winter sports equipment;
o Persons wearing winter sports clothing who are clearly identifiable as winter sports enthusiasts and who
Use transport services to and from the mountain railways;
o Persons with winter sports clothing for practicing winter sports and ski pass of the respective
approached mountain railway;


NEW REGULATIONS for taking passengers on other journeys

A valid public transport ticket is required for all non-winter sports-related journeys.

THIS PARTICUARLY APPLIES TO everyday journeys (commuting, shopping, leisure, etc.)


VVT tariffs 2025:

Examples of single journeys Route

Standard price Local lines 1 to 5 €1.50 Verwall – Line 6 €3.00 Reduced €1.00 €2.00 Kids €0.80 €1.50

Flirsch – St. Anton – Line 270 €4.60 Reduced 2.90 Kids €2.30
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Oh, how they have destroyed the beauty of St.Christoph.....So charming, so unique still in the 1990's; and look at it now: a generic mess.
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Wait so getting the bus up to mooserwirt just for a drink means I'd have to pay? That's crazy...
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Also the people who live up the hill and work in town... This is going to be surprisingly expensive, are the buses at least going to have card readers rather than handling cash? I feel like the cash transactions are going to make the waiting times add up by 10 mins (like they do post 7.30pm currently)
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