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Looking on the piste map and now see 3 touring routes, one in 1600, one in 1800 and one in Plan Peisey.
Has anyone tried them?
Looking to do some straightforward stuff with one of my kids, we tried one in Châtel that started OK, but after 150m you were just going up some off piste that was being hammered by skiers.
Ideally we want to be in the trees or off the piste on some mountain tracks. The whole point is to feel “away from it”!
Hard to tell from the piste map if they are just following mainly piste routes or not.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Best ski tour in Les Arcs is Mont Pourri. If that sounds too complicated, you may as well stop at Col des Roches. Great views, fantastic scenery! From there Mont Turria is only a short climb away, if you fancy a summit. Direct descents from the top are possible but rather steep.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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'Ideally looking to do straightforward stuff'
And @Tristero, recommends Mont Pourri, a glacier. Ha.
Although it is dead easy as a glacier travel ski tour goes.
The 1600 route and the peisey route are in the trees and off the pistes @ish303
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@ish303, I don't think "getting away from it" and "straightforward stuff" are entirely compatible. Hire a guide.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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I've toured a lot around les Arcs. I don't know about the secured ski touring routes but among other choices
1. col des Roches - not too hard but getting steeper with the retreat of the glacier, there is an avalanche risk so you need to know what you are doing
2. Mont Pourri via the Col des Roches - steep climb down from the col des Roches, not for the faint hearted and the glacier du Geay has some very very big crevasses so you need to have crampons and usual glacier travel gear and know how to use it.
3. Mont Pourri via the refuge du Mont Pourri - quite a steep and long ski tour and you spend more time crossing the hidden crevasses on the glacier du Geay
4. Grand Col - short easy ski tour from the Grand Col lift with a nice view at the top. Shown as dotted blue on the IGN map but not sure where they see the danger.
5. Refuge du Mont Pourri from the Grand Col - ski down then skin back up, some avalanche risk on the west slopes Aiguille du St Esprit
6. Col du Chal to the Chalets du Rosset - ski down and skin back up, no real dangers
7. Mont Turia - best avoid unless you are a very good skier alpinist
I've only covered stuff already mentioned or that is easy
The major issues with ski touring in resorts are
i. most of the safe / easier terrain is covered with pistes and lifts
ii. there are skiers and ski lifts everywhere, not really very fun and you really don't want to be touring up open ski runs with people skiing down like some kind of German Geisterfahrer
Maybe someone will answer the original question rather than suggesting stuff entirely unsuited?
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| timlongs wrote: |
'Ideally looking to do straightforward stuff'
And @Tristero, recommends Mont Pourri, a glacier. Ha.
Although it is dead easy as a glacier travel ski tour goes.
The 1600 route and the peisey route are in the trees and off the pistes @ish303 |
Do actually have the kit for glacier travel, but not looking for that as this is to test out if my 13 year old is still keen on this idea after 1-2hours going uphill!
Basically just being in the trees is what we are after, don’t want to be skinning up the sides of slopes.
We will be taking full avi kit as a case of best practice.
Should this be a success then we may think of going further up the skill level…
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@ish303, to answer your question a bit. You can download the gpx tracks for the 3 routes then upload them into openskimap or other and see where the ski runs are. As far as I can see they are largely on forest trails, probably the same as used by walkers but you always risk occassional skiers coming down these even if they are not supposed to.
The Pierre Blanche 1 route doesn't have any snow cover now. Pierre Blanch 2 goes to the bottom of Malgovert so you could probably continue touring up from there, but the Malgovert it is a black itineary but not too busy.
As I said above, I've not done any of the routes apart from Malgovert down hill - a pearl of a run.
https://www.lesarcs.com/ski-de-randonnee/itineraires-ski-de-randonnee
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@ish303, Not the answer you're probably looking for, but whenever I have been asked to run introductions to Ski Touring in that area, the best Grade 1 touring options are on the Beaufortain. That's the other side of the valley when you look across from Les Arcs. It's pretty straightforward to get a taxi to Granier and from there, there are a number of easy routes up to huts like the Refuge La Balme. probably a bit late in the season now though.
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@davidof, Good luck with the one from Les Granges, it has been green since February.
OP - best/easiest intro that is 'in bounds' is the rando/touring route that starts from the Mont Blanc chair in 1600.
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| timlongs wrote: |
| @davidof, Good luck with the one from Les Granges, it has been green since February. |
as I already said above
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