 Poster: A snowHead
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Encountered my first last week in the La Tania bubble. A bloke walking up the ramps with his wife was going really slow and kept stopping. They stopped again at the top and 3 of us followed them into the bubble, it is a round bubble with a ledge you rest your butt on. His wife seemed concerned, and he closed his eyes to rest. I was watching him and his head started to sway and then he just went, collapsed like a rag doll. I said "he's gone" in my mind convinced he was dead. HIs feet were trapped underneath him, skis and poles all over. Managed to get his feet out and get him on the floor, take his helmet off and undo his jacket undone. Just as i went to check for a pulse he started to stir and then slowly came round. He wanted to get back up and we eventually got him back up.
Turns out his cardiologist had told him never to go above 1500m, he said that his skiing days were over. He stayed in the bubble and I offered to ride down with them but he and his Mrs declined. we notified the lifty of the incident, and he rang the bottom station. Folyeres was the first run of the day for us and I was a bit sleepy.....wide awake by the top of the bubble ride.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Gosh. Well done, @Frosty the Snowman, they obviously needed some strong and capable help. If he had just died in the bubble I suppose there are worse ways to go, though it might have seriously messed up your day.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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We had a chap who had a hypo in the same type of bubble last year. MrHL to the rescue (he was fine)
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| Frosty the Snowman wrote: |
Turns out his cardiologist had told him never to go above 1500m, . |
He'll have to holiday in Austria, or Norway, next winter.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Or America - they don't have metres there... job... done...
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@Frosty the Snowman, Well done 
A few years ago I gave CPR to a poor chap who had a cardiac arrest in a mountain restaurant.. We managed to get return of circulation when the helicopter arrived with a defib but he sadly died later in hospital.
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@Richard_Sideways, good point but there are more of them than meters
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@T Bar, you need to be careful with CPR, someone is in court in France at the moment charged with manslaughter after giving CPR that led to internal bleeding and killed the "victim".
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| davidof wrote: |
| @T Bar, you need to be careful with CPR, someone is in court in France at the moment charged with manslaughter after giving CPR that led to internal bleeding and killed the "victim". |
That is a real disaster for first aiders paramedics etc. This was not in France though.
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@T Bar, OMG!
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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| davidof wrote: |
| @T Bar, you need to be careful with CPR, someone is in court in France at the moment charged with manslaughter after giving CPR that led to internal bleeding and killed the "victim". |
No "Good Samaritan" laws in France then?
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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CPR is a really difficult area for amateurs (and I know T-bar is not an amateur). I did CPR on my husband (under orders from a 999 operator whilst waiting for the professionals) but even as I was doing it, on autopilot, much of my brain was screaming at me to stop. I didn't know how long he'd been there before I got home and rang 999 and I knew enough to know that in the improbable event of his coming round he would not be in a good way. When I later discussed with my GP (in the context of drafting a Living Will with a DNR) she suggested that one of the few situations where CPR might be worthwhile is when an otherwise healthy person had been rescued from drowning and pointed out that I spent quite a lot of time in boats.
I felt that if I were 24 this would be good advice, but as I was quite old and not "otherwise in good health" I would not try to make this an exception!
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You know it makes sense.
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| davidof wrote: |
| @T Bar, you need to be careful with CPR, someone is in court in France at the moment charged with manslaughter after giving CPR that led to internal bleeding and killed the "victim". |
But, he was dead and the CPR was trying to make him undead! We get a fair few on Patrol, a TIA, a CA and a couple of random hypos then of course the hungoever which is an entirely separate thread !
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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@Frosty the Snowman, Good that you were there to help.
| T Bar wrote: |
| A few years ago I gave CPR to a poor chap who had a cardiac arrest in a mountain restaurant.. We managed to get return of circulation when the helicopter arrived with a defib but he sadly died later in hospital. |
I also gave CPR to a guy who'd crashed at Mallory Park circuit ... unfortunately he didn't show any response and the paramedics were there very quickly to take over. I'm not sure what the odds/effectiveness are for it to be honest. All the situations I've heard of have not ended in successful resuscitation. In one instance the victim was stabilised, reached hospital and was put in intensive care ... but when they did a scan it was determined that he was brain dead.
| davidof wrote: |
| @T Bar, you need to be careful with CPR, someone is in court in France at the moment charged with manslaughter after giving CPR that led to internal bleeding and killed the "victim". |
I think that is truly evil. I was told, when I did the course decades ago, that for CPR to have any chance of working you needed to be very forceful. You're trying to compress the heart through the rib cage ! As such, cracked ribs are not uncommon as a result of correctly administered CPR. That someone would take legal action against someone trying to help ...
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