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New Eurotunnel T&Cs for bookings from March 5th 2025.
When I say new - it won't surprise you to hear that means worse. Basically much more restrictive on late arrivals.
Link: https://www.leshuttle.com/uk-en/support/articles/what-happens-if-i-arrive-early-or-late-for-my-booked-departure-33060096298641
Day/trip overnight tickets - ticket only valid on booked train full stop. If you fail to arrive and check in one hour before your train your ticket is void and lost. Less likely to affect a ski hol but still very crappy.
Standard tickets & short stay tickets - you are now limited to just a 1 hour window for being late, after that your ticket is voided and lost and you have to buy a new ticket.
Standard Plus - you can arrive up to 4 hours late, after which your ticket is void and lost. 4 hours sounds a lot, but you only have to have a snowmageddon day (or that recent rockfall outside Moutiers) and that could easily be eaten away. (the old Standard let you arrive up to two hours late and travel, or between 2-24 hours late and travel with fare difference - now over 4 hours you've lost your ticket).
Flexiplus - limited to the day you are booked to travel, if you haven't checked in by 23.59 on the booked date your ticket is void. However you can still amend (subject to availability) or cancel a flexiplus before 23.59 on the travel day. Peak day surcharge still exists at between £10 and £250 per leg!
So basically, as far as I see it, a worse customer experience at every level.
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Ferry starting to look a lot more attractive again.
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Gazzza wrote: |
New Eurotunnel T&Cs for bookings from March 5th 2025.
Flexiplus - limited to the day you are booked to travel, if you haven't checked in by 23.59 on the booked date your ticket is void. However you can still amend (subject to availability) or cancel a flexiplus before 23.59 on the travel day. Peak day surcharge still exists at between £10 and £250 per leg!
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This sucks. It's a big selling point of Flexiplus that you can return on a different day to your booking, e.g. to get in some extra skiing. The clue is in the name...
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Looks like Swiss and the SBB will be seeing a lot more of my cash. I think I’d probably still draw the line at a TUI into Chambery though.
I wonder what has led to the change. The last few times I’ve used the tunnel there has been hardly anyone there and we’ve been sent straight on the next train without so much need to touch a parking space in the terminal.
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Last twenty years four times a year I’ve always made my booked departure or put on an earlier one , have always allowed time for error but can’t recall any major incidents either . However new T&Cs look bloody harsh to me . Surely if there was something major that caused everyone to be late they would waiver
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HilbertSpace wrote: |
Gazzza wrote: |
New Eurotunnel T&Cs for bookings from March 5th 2025.
Flexiplus - limited to the day you are booked to travel, if you haven't checked in by 23.59 on the booked date your ticket is void. However you can still amend (subject to availability) or cancel a flexiplus before 23.59 on the travel day. Peak day surcharge still exists at between £10 and £250 per leg!
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This sucks. It's a big selling point of Flexiplus that you can return on a different day to your booking, e.g. to get in some extra skiing. The clue is in the name...  |
In practice there’s no difference for flexiplus beyond a requirement to change your booking date if you aren’t going to travel on the originally booked date. The ticket still has free changes or refunds up to 23:59 on the booked day of travel. What you can no longer do is just fail to turn up on your booked day and arrive a couple of weeks later without notifying eurotunnel.
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Currently the cheapest tickets still allow you to reschedule, although you may need to pay an upgrade. I didn't see anything in those T & C's about being able to change.
Did I miss something?
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Doofenschmirtz wrote: |
Ferry starting to look a lot more attractive again. |
What are the T&Cs on the ferrys when it comes to, quite literally, missing the boat? If you're booked on a 12:00 boat and don't turn up at the port till 12:59 do they just put you on the next boat for free on the cheapest ticket/turn up at 15:59 and get put on the next bot for a more expensive one?
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Mjit wrote: |
Doofenschmirtz wrote: |
Ferry starting to look a lot more attractive again. |
What are the T&Cs on the ferrys when it comes to, quite literally, missing the boat? If you're booked on a 12:00 boat and don't turn up at the port till 12:59 do they just put you on the next boat for free on the cheapest ticket/turn up at 15:59 and get put on the next bot for a more expensive one? |
I think DFDS you can go +/-4hrs of your booking
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Matt1959 wrote: |
Currently the cheapest tickets still allow you to reschedule, although you may need to pay an upgrade. I didn't see anything in those T & C's about being able to change.
Did I miss something? |
Good point. I just found the amendments rules on a different part of the support pages, shame they don't link to them or put the rules on the same page
Anyway, looks like standard, short stay saver and standard plus are amendable for a fee (which currently seems to be £20 on line or at desk, or £30 by phone) plus any fare difference, but only if you do so before it expires based on the late rules in the original link. So on a standard ticket, if you are running more than an hour late (or four hours if you paid for standard plus) you'd have to get online or phone and amend the booking before it expires otherwise it's lost and you'd have to buy a new ticket. Ie. On a standard ticket you can't now rock up 2 or 3 hours late due to traffic and sort it out at the booth like you used to as it'll have already expired and if you haven't amended it you've lost it.
Flexi looks good anytime that day, and amenable with fare difference to other days, but if not traveling on the booked day you have to amend before 23.59 or it expires so you have to proactively amend.
Day/overnight trips aren't amendable, so if you don't check in an hour before your train you've lost your ticket.
Here's the full t&c link :
https://www.leshuttle.com/getmedia/6504bcab-1003-40df-b4f7-4f900993e3ad/UK-_Ticket-Terms-and-Conditions-March-2025.pdf
Last edited by Ski the Net with snowHeads on Tue 18-03-25 14:00; edited 1 time in total
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@Gazzza, Thank you. We live an eight hour drive from Folkestone so we tend to book a train at around 18:15, but as we get a couple of hours away reschedule on the app if there are free trains. Will have to read the details when we next travel.
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@Matt1959, I amended my crossing - standard fare with tesco vouchers - on Sunday 16th March while en route. I always book the 17.24 from Calais, amend to the 16.24 (which is the earliest without paying extra) then hope to get on an earlier train FOC, which we did (15.24). Same as its always been, but I had booked before 5th March. Will have to pay £20 to do that, and I guess we will and hope that they will still put us on an earlier train FOC if we are early enough
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Mjit wrote: |
Doofenschmirtz wrote: |
Ferry starting to look a lot more attractive again. |
What are the T&Cs on the ferrys when it comes to, quite literally, missing the boat? If you're booked on a 12:00 boat and don't turn up at the port till 12:59 do they just put you on the next boat for free on the cheapest ticket/turn up at 15:59 and get put on the next bot for a more expensive one? |
I got stuck for 2.5 hrs on the A1 last year, missed my booked ferry (Irish ferries) but they put me on the next one FOC
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HilbertSpace wrote: |
Gazzza wrote: |
New Eurotunnel T&Cs for bookings from March 5th 2025.
Flexiplus - limited to the day you are booked to travel, if you haven't checked in by 23.59 on the booked date your ticket is void. However you can still amend (subject to availability) or cancel a flexiplus before 23.59 on the travel day. Peak day surcharge still exists at between £10 and £250 per leg!
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This sucks. It's a big selling point of Flexiplus that you can return on a different day to your booking, e.g. to get in some extra skiing. The clue is in the name...  |
The flexiplus terms changed a year or so ago. It used to be fully flexible so you could extend a holiday by a few days or come back earlier with no penalty but now it is only flexible on the date of travel.
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@snowymum, that’s not been my experience. It’s still fully flexible to any date within a year as long as a) you amend your reservation online or via the call centre, and b) you pay a supplement if you originally booked an off peak date, but want to change to a peak date. If your original booking was for a peak date, you can change to whenever you want. I did this twice in the past year.
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@snowdave, Apologies. I didn’t realise that. However it used to be the case that you didn’t need to do anything online you just turned up a different day and checked in.
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Will be interesting to see what reports are of how this works out in practice. I can't imagine that if you miss your time you won't get through check-in, that would cause huge queues. Likewise if you arrive early.
I suspect, which no doubt is the aim, people will just book the more flexible (expensive) tickets
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@Boris, unless you are using Tesco vouchers as you can't upgrade with them.
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We get a Flexi plus with our booking and have changed the day we travel without issues but needed to go through the agent we use instead of our own Eurotunnel account which is a pain, to be honest I'm not sure what the advantage of the high extra cost of flexiplus is now, it would be cheaper to just rebook a normal ticket if you missed the original time on a normal ticket
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@robs1, I think you’ll find that the only ticket you can buy on the day is expensive enough to balance that out. Plus the risk that the train is full and you can’t buy a ticket.
@snowymum, the ticket conditions since COVID have stated that you needed to notify eurotunnel if travelling on a different date, but this wasn’t actively enforced. The new aspect seems to be that your ticket actively expires if you miss the date and don’t change it manually.
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snowdave wrote: |
@robs1, I think you’ll find that the only ticket you can buy on the day is expensive enough to balance that out. Plus the risk that the train is full and you can’t buy a ticket.
@snowymum, the ticket conditions since COVID have stated that you needed to notify eurotunnel if travelling on a different date, but this wasn’t actively enforced. The new aspect seems to be that your ticket actively expires if you miss the date and don’t change it manually. |
Wouldn't be surprised about either of those things, compared to the offerings in the flexiplus reception from years ago the current stuff is very poor, if we didn't get it included as part of the holiday I wouldn't use it now.
I still much prefer the tunnel to the ferry though especially in January
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@robs1, on new years day this year, each member of our group was given a sealed bottle of champagne in the flexiplus lounge; we definitely got our money's worth on that trip! Agree with tunnel vs ferry - anything that avoids going into Dover is a winner.
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Food at Flexiplus was mediocre on our last Christmas trip too. We get better stopping off at a Greggs, picking up a bacon roll and a coffee for breakfast, and stocking up on their sandwiches and wraps. I'll be back to making picnic lunches for our next trip.
Our delays at Eurotunnel have always been after check-in, usually after being told to proceed to boarding lanes, although we were once bumped to a departure 2 hours later because of a huge queue at pet check-in meaning we'd missed the 1 hour window.
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I suspect Eurotunnel think tis change will push more people to book more flexible and expensive tickets - increasing revenue. However, I think in practice it will mean people play it safer and arrive earlier - clogging up the terminal!
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@philhitch, absolutely, and I definitely won't be booking more expensive tickets as I can't currently do so with a Tesco voucher. It probably won't make me transfer to the ferry either as it is just so much easier with our dog. In practice, I'm not sure it will make a lot of difference to us. Until it does of course due to unexpected circumstances. We did arrive a little later than planned in January due to the A1 being closed, however we left on our booked train, as it had also been delayed.
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I think it's more to do with predicting and managing traffic flows against train capacity. On busy days if you arrive too early they will turn you around to come back later. Likewise if a load of flexiplus customers turn up unscheduled and jump to the head of the queue this leads to a knock on effect with delays to cattle class and possible comp claims.
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I can recall at least three occasions over the last ten years where we've arrived in plenty of time but then queued for well over an hour from the M20 exit to the check in booths (albeit in school holiday peak periods). Wonder what they'd do in this circumstance....surely they couldn't invalidate your ticket just because of lengthy queues to the check in booths?
It's another nail in the LeSh1ttle coffin for me.
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I will be asking questions from the usually very helpful live chat before I make my next booking. Watch this space.
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philhitch wrote: |
I suspect Eurotunnel think tis change will push more people to book more flexible and expensive tickets - increasing revenue. However, I think in practice it will mean people play it safer and arrive earlier - clogging up the terminal! |
Sounds about right.
Beauty of the tunnel has always been the ability to turn up early and get on an earlier train if available, or just to turn up late and not be penalised.
Be interesting how many people are, say, affected by a motorway closure and miss their standard window and are charged for a new ticket. is here even an option to purchase a new ticket at the machines? Maybe that's what the new cattle shed in the car park is all about.
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@Specialman, yes you can buy a ticket at the machines. If I get caught out I'll be claiming on travel insurance, albeit with an excess
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holidayloverxx wrote: |
@Specialman, yes you can buy a ticket at the machines. If I get caught out I'll be claiming on travel insurance, albeit with an excess |
Did not know that.
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I suppose as a business they can maximise revenue by just reducing the overall flexibility of the tickets and people will still pay to travel.... drives more flexi ticket sales and ultimately, many of us who choose the tune for speed a d ease will continue to do so rather than use the ferries. Got us by the short and curlies
Just looked at our Easter booking:
"Flexiplus (Please refer to point 2.2). Upgrades not available for bookings paid for in whole or in part with Tesco Clubcard"
Used about four quid's worth of Tesco vouchers (I'm an ALDI man, don't you know!!) so that's locked me out of an upgrade. doh!!
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@Specialman, The new cattle shed is to deal with the new EES system, its filling up with fingerprint or photo recognition machines.
For me these changes are a pain. I have just moved from using ferries to Le Shuttle as it was more flexible. Living in the frozen North I allow 6 and a half hours for the 5 hour journey to Dover/Folkestone. Because of the periodicity between ferries I often spent a lot of time watching seagulls - but with the tunnel I have always been offered an earlier train. I will have to rethink.
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@chocksaway, in a similar position. On our crossing last week, despite booking months ago, and arriving with plenty of time to spare, we were unable to get on an earlier train. We did ask when we did the pet passport stuff and were told there was no room on any earlier ones but to go to the boarding lane early, and we might be able to get the train in front of our booked one. It was fairly quiet in the car park and terminal, but it seemed as if they were consolidating us onto a reduced number of trains. The train after ours was moved to a later slot. They used to bump up anyone arriving early onto the trains to fill them, not make people wait longer. It did seem to be a change in policy (we booked months ago so not subject to the new T&Cs).
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When we went over in September on a non flexi booking they cancelled a train so we all had to wait, but we " accidentally" got into the wrong queue so actually got away early. I think that will be a common tactic in future until they catch on and look at the letters on the hanger
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@robs1, We have seen people being returned to the terminal if they tried to proceed especially at busy times. Last Friday, car behind us at the boarding lane, had H2 hanger, we had G3. Was allowed through, but was put into a different lane to us and was still there when we boarded our train. Many vehicles arriving later boarded and he was still there. Couldn't say if they eventually caught our train, but we were towards the back of the train with a full lane behind us, so I suspect not.
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@robs1, We have seen people being returned to the terminal if they tried to proceed especially at busy times. Last Friday, car behind us at the boarding lane, had H2 hanger, we had G3. Was allowed through, but was put into a different lane to us and was still there when we boarded our train. Many vehicles arriving later boarded and he was still there. Couldn't say if they eventually caught our train, but we were towards the back of the train with a full lane behind us, so I suspect not. |
Yes I'm sure they will do that, especially if it becomes a habit but the staff need to be paying attention when we went through they weren't, it was just a bit chaotic.
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i thought that has always been the case with all non flexiplus tickets, i was caught out a few years ago (a couple of weeks before the first lockdown), when the M20 was shut from 8pm on a Thursday night for roadworks. we rocked up just after our train was due to depart, or may have just departed, due to having to navigate our way round single track roads in the Kent countryside, along with other travellers.
i cannot remember what ticket i had purchased, but i had to pay for another ticket to get on a later train.
i remember protesting, to no avail, to the person at the check in intercom that you would have assumed that ET would have put out a message on the website, regarding planned road closures. though obviously i should have also checked English highways for this info before travelling, i do this as a matter of course now for any journeys of this type.
sounds like i was possibly charged incorrectly at the time?
like others on here, i have previously booked trains with rough timings a long way in advance, knowing i can change nearer the time if need be, or arrive early and hope to get on an earlier train, with just a fee for any price difference that may be incurred.
i am actually using the tunnel next weekend, for a short trip to Bruges with my youngest, but the tickets were purchased before the change in T&C's. these were bought nearly a year ago for another planned trip that i had to cancel, and i have moved the dates several times to other crossings without incurring a fee until i have had to use them now as they are only valid for a year.
obviously, i will have to plan more diligently in future when making any other bookings, but must admit i would still not bother with flexiplus tickets, used it once before but was not worth the money in my opinion. but maybe go for standard plus fares (if this is still allowed) where i can cancel for a full refund and re-book if i have to make any changes.
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So I've come across on the tunnel today having booked earlier this week so under the new t&C's.
I almost booked ferry based on the new terms, an hour's window with the history of the M25/23/20 is not much especially on a Friday night. Anyway I had a bunch of Tesco vouchers so effectively made the tunnel free despite the high price (257 return short stay saver v 109 on the ferry). Due to the new ticket rules and potential Fri night traffic I left home much earlier than normal . Roads were fine so got to check-in at 6pm for a 7.46 crossing. I was expecting it to offer a change fee to get an earlier train to which I'd have stuck two fingers and clogged up the terminal without spending any money out of bloody minded principle .
Anyway to my surprise it offered me a train an hour earlier which I gratefully accepted. Maybe because it was mega quiet (literally drove to a window at check-in and both customs windows without any wait). 15 minutes from pulling up to check in we were in the pre boarding lanes having been to the terminal loo and made a purchase from duty free. Boarded 5 minutes later. Really un-faultable.
So on the face of it they are still being sensible with early arrivers for the time being. I hope that continues as it was for me the big selling point of the tunnel. I'm not so sure if would be the same on mega busy peak days when the value of Flexi plus comes into its own.
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I used to spend £500+ per annum with le Shuttle.
The new CEO came in, a few years back, dropped the frequent traveller package and I think I've done just one crossing with them since.
I hadn't even tried the ferries until then but I actually find DFDS to be a preferable option most of the time now.
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