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Reports are coming in of a rock slide blocking southbound lanes of the RN 90 between Aigueblanche & Moutiers. The usually northbound tunnel has been converted to two way traffic but expect long delays. There is no alternative route. Traffic information updates at https://savoie-route.fr/
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Saw the static traffic from the homebound train:now understand why... And a transfer day too.
Ouch..
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Crikey, the size of that boulder.
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Thanks for the traffic link. Not that it’s much help to us, about 3k below the rock in the picture…. C’est la vie!
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Must have been some squeaky bums there..... 
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Good job it was before peak inbound traffic, imagine if one of those rocks had taken a bus out.
The Tunnel du Ponserand is now bi directional, but the queues at both sides are horrendous, and up hill will get worse.
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Emergency accommodation is being opened up inth eValley (gyms etc) lets hope its not needed.
Guessing now - but I suspect it will be a few days before those rocks can be reduced to manageable sizes to be removed. The roads and barriers will need repairing and as its an elevated section of road a detailed structural survey. Plus a geographical survey of whats left above.
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The queue inbound is now nearly back to Albertville - if you are still travelling south - consider a long late lunch!
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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I guess if you are still driving it is time to pull in and find a bed for the night before you hit the chaos.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Estimated drive time between Albertville and Moutiers has risen to 6 hours and the back of the queue is still growing - it now starts well outside Albertville so if you have not left Chambery do as @Hells Bells, suggests.
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Poor people. I'm not keen on air travel, but when road travel goes wrong it can be truly horrendous.
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You know it makes sense.
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You know you have to use the road to get up the mountain right? We're stuck at the bottom but have got a hotel 35 mins away to see what happens
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Can confirm we’re at Montmelian and satnav estimating 35 mins to albertville. Rolling along at about 40mph but then it all just jams up again. Hoping we don’t have to sleep in the car 
Friend on a Coach having left Lyon and they are being told they will make it to les menuirs today. Not sure where 6h is coming from tho? Really hope not!!!
Last edited by Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name: on Sat 1-02-25 16:55; edited 1 time in total
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Poster: A snowHead
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@thecremeegg,
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You know you have to use the road to get up the mountain right?
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Yes. I recognise I made that sound as though I didn't. Sorry.
How will you extricate yourself from the jam to get to your hotel, exactly?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@FiFi_Trixibell, Yu have about 10miles before you join the back of the queue. The 6 hours is from the local paper from the Savoie Prefect. I can see the queues from the webcams and am getting reports from transfer driver mates. The hotel just off the Montmelian junction is great.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| KSH wrote: |
@thecremeegg,
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You know you have to use the road to get up the mountain right?
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Yes. I recognise I made that sound as though I didn't. Sorry.
How will you extricate yourself from the jam to get to your hotel, exactly? |
Hah sorry! We didn't join the jam thankfully, we were in Albertville charging the car and buying food when I checked Facebook. Google still reckons it's 2 hours up the hill which will be catching a lot of people out I'm sure!
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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reminds me of the first year we skied in circa 1998. the saturday traffic to 3V started very soon after turning out of Lyon airport! we broke up the very slow 7 or 8 hr transfer with :
- listening to the Frqnce - England rugby on the radio in French
- walking ahead of the coach and then waiting for it
- a very long time detour off the main road the short distance to the Albertville McD's, mainly for everyone (and everyone else) to use the toilets!
We were one of the last vehicles they let through at Aigueblanche that evening.
Which was lovely, because it was all caused by humongous amounts of snow, which gave us 7 days of blue sky and snow.
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| thecremeegg wrote: |
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@thecremeegg,
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You know you have to use the road to get up the mountain right?
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Yes. I recognise I made that sound as though I didn't. Sorry.
How will you extricate yourself from the jam to get to your hotel, exactly? |
Hah sorry! We didn't join the jam thankfully, we were in Albertville charging the car and buying food when I checked Facebook. Google still reckons it's 2 hours up the hill which will be catching a lot of people out I'm sure! |
Yes, I was confused by the google estimate, until I looked a bit closer and found this message on the page:
"Route closed. No other routes available. Check conditions before you go."
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We are just leaving Geneva, hopefully it's cleared a little bit by the time we get to moutier. A couple of others in our party left Grenoble at 9.30 this morning and took about 7 hours to get in to Les Arcs.
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@Triggahippy, Sorry the queues are not getting any shorter, you'll join it shortly after Ugine, at least thats closer than Frontonex for those coming from Lyon
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Le Dauphine quoting that traffic is now slow from Chambery, and the capacity of the now bidirectional Tunnel de Ponserand is 800-1000 vehicles per hour each way. The estimate for the number of vehicles still to pass through it is 8000-10000 on the way up.
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@chocksaway, just gone past it on a train. Slow from Chambery, stop/start from Frontenex. Grim.
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It's MOUTIERS, not Moutier !!!!!!!!
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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@rob@rar, Are we still allowed to use the phrase "Let the Train take the strain"???? 
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Next Saturday will be even worse! Stay safe, y'all down there.
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You know it makes sense.
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Left Annecy at about noon and still not reached Moûtiers. Not ideal but on the bright side we weren't involved in the landslide earlier
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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They have measured the 3 rocks - 50 cubic metres or about 135 tonnes. A bullet dodged.
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Poster: A snowHead
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| Origen wrote: |
| Next Saturday will be even worse! Stay safe, y'all down there. |
Why? Is there a larger landslide scheduled? 
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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A smaller rockfall than that took weeks to sort out on the road between our apartment and Les Saisies. There was a way round by road but hugely long - right down into the valley and up the other side. They re-purposed a chairlift so pedestrians could use it and ran it later so non skiers could come back "over the mountain" rather than by road. The engineering work was done pretty swiftly including blasting a lot of rock away to make a sort of "ditch" for a future fall to go into, but the "structural survey" work and getting that area of hillside signed off as safe seems to have been the main reason for delay. But it was nothing like such an important road and with the busiest weeks of the year coming up no doubt the authorities will be flat out to get this one done swiftly.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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5 hours from Tignes to Geneva by car. Took the old road out of Bourg all the way to Moutiers, via some very small and pretty villages. The twisty road down was narrow but incredible. Worst delays were in Moutiers as diverted off the main road through the town, bypass tunnel was closed.
The traffic coming up the valley was horrendous, standing, queueing traffic from before Albertville to a gantry of lights before the bigger tunnel. Then it was queuing on and off well past Chambéry.
Lovely quiet ski on the slopes today. Hope everyone gets there in good time tonight to make the most of the conditions tomorrow.
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Currently on the platform in Chambrey waiting for the train. Hoping to get to La Tania tonight
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Good luck everyone.
Read a book about a Brit (pilot?) hiding high up a mountain in Nazi Italy perhaps 1944, sheltered by locals. Slept in a cave in summer but then autumn was coming and he would need a better place. They looked around, found a better cave (‘ole?!) but blocked by a massive rock, which would take a week or two to dig out and move. Lots of excited chatter and the next morning they brought up a local old man. He looked all around the rock surface, scratching a few bits, then took out his cold chisel, placed it carefully and gave it a wallop. Rock split in two.
Sometimes old knowledge is still useful.
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Car in the photo looks damaged on the driver’s side. Hope they are ok.
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| Orange200 wrote: |
| Car in the photo looks damaged on the driver’s side. Hope they are ok. |
Minor injury to one man in his 60s, who was taken to hospital.
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sugarmoma666, think the driver was female
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