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I have yet to ski the Mb5 in the 172, but I know I do not like it in a 162, not at all. It was fine of the groomers to carve, bt int he bumps and tree's is was aweful.

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rockyrobin, All that Merlot's clouding your thinking mate Laughing

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Atomic's race skis have their Beta 4 mag power rod system as also does the B5. However the race skis do not have the Beta 5 exposed elastomer damping system that's on the B5, SX:B5 & I presume the M11B5. wink

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rockyrobin, Don't the ST11's have the girlie power rods? Laughing

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spyderjon, Not started on the drink yet mate. Not that I need fortifying to cloud my thinking anyway Laughing

You cannot tell me you just reeled all that info off without first going looking in your Atomic manual Wink

You've got it bad mate! Toofy Grin

Hey, you do realise Atomic market the ST11/12 as a ski not just for the ladies but for lighter weight guys too. That's my excuse anyway snowHead

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comprex, Seems I fit into this category:-

After all it is free

MUST figure out how to get ~60 more points.

comprex, You could always fake it Wink

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I scored 70 but I do have a vinegar preference Embarassed

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I was +5. Embarassing.

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75 (or -25).

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Just bought today SX:B5s 174cm with Neox 412, got a good deal 450 bux brand new for the set. Never rode SX:B5s before, but from the reviews sounds like a fun ski, hopefully I wont be disappointed. Very Happy

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LEGEND, Welcome to snowHeads. Hope you enjoy your new toys. If you haven't sussed out how to change the bindings between the central & forward position (the Atomic instructions are cr@p) here's link to help.

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Spyderjon,

Thanks for the info on the M11/B5, I've seen some posts referring to that ski this year and I was really confused. Not that it matters, I ski the 04/05 B-5's and even after skiing 82 days over the past two seasons, they are still in amazing shape and I won't be in the market for new skis for at least another season. I've skied everything and everywhere with them and my only complaint is that they are really heavy when carrying them on my pack in the backcountry. I ski the 152's (I'm short) which makes the moguls easier - they are definitely NOT a ski for someone who spends all their time on moguls - too stiff - but they are amazing everywhere else. I'll give the new M11/B5 a try this year at one of the demo days but I can't imagine anything being better than my B-5's.

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irishskier, My sentiments exactly.

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Thanks a lot for the link Spyderjon, I haven't even thought about the fact that I'd have to adjust them. How long does it usually take to readjust a binding to a new boot size?

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LEGEND, A minute or two per ski with a bit of practice.

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Hopefully now with the Salomon involvment, Atomic will ditch their bindings. Atomic skis are themselves great, but I hardly use mine (except in the gates) as the bindings let them down so badly. Saying that I'd probably not buy Atomics for anything other than race skis.
As mentioned above they could definitely do with sorting out the naming strategy B5-M6, M11, etc, etc - more names than my AA roadmap!!

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stuarth, It's a funny old game this as I've exactly the opposite sentiments as you.

I've 100% total trust in my three pairs of 04/05 Neox 412 bindings. I ski reasonably aggressively & use mine on my DIN chart setting & I've never had a pre-release but they've always let go when they should have. And when tested on my Huber torque release machine they're also bang on. What problems have you had?

I've only used a Salomon binding for a week (can't remember which model) & the toe height kept going out of adjustment.

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Mine are device bindings (not sure which ones but the DIN goes up to 14 I think - kept them when the skis they were attached to broke - big mistake!) - so the really bad ones - tried to find some Neox bindings to swap them, but the only ones I could get hold of last season were the wide brake version from a sponsored friend. Anyway Neox bindings are still ridiculously heavy!
Device bindings are pre-release-tastic - even the pro-versions aren't great. Finished a race going round the last few gates on my ar$e when slightly the wrong line and some ruts meant a ski came off, several other course related incidents, but far worse at pre-releasing off-piste. Small Jump, land, off they come, chopped up powder, off they come, etc, etc... I've had to crank the DIN right up, I normally ski a high-ish DIN on my Salomon bindings (10) but have to go even higher on my Atomics - I really don't want them coming off when I hit a small bump at speed - when I'm really cranking a turn and it gets a bit bumpy I start praying!! Shocked

Have also had the toe height problem with my Salomons - I thought the bindings had broken they got so loose, so I took them to a shop to look at and they adjusted the toe which was _miles_ out. Apart from that though, they are great bindings, so together with the Atomics which are great skis, they would make a great combination! snowHead

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stuarth, The Neox 412's from 05/06 season onwards are a lot lighter due to use of titanium etc than the original 04/05 version. Unfortunately the same weight loss was not applied to the 614's. Don't notice the weight when skied but not good for carrying.

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