 Poster: A snowHead
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During this Spring Break, it is extra busy on the Austrian slopes. Austria is still by far the most popular ski destination for many people.
However crowds on the slopes also mean more chance of accidents and the Tyrolean police are seriously concerned about that.
One in five people who cause an accident does not stop and leaves an injured person on the slopes.
The police will ask for help of other skiers during these busy ski weeks.
Crime
Since November 1 of last year, there have been more than 1350 accidents on the slopes in Tyrol. In 279 cases, the person who caused the accident fled.
This is evident from current figures from the police in Tyrol.
Faiilng to stop after causing an accident is a crime, just like in traffic on public roads. In Austria, this can lead to a fine of 750 euros or even imprisonment.
Maximum three years
Skier/Borders often stop after an accident, ask if everything is okay and then continue.
But they often do not pass on their contact details says the Head of the Tyrolean Alpine Police in Sometimes a fall goes unnoticed. Usually there is no malicious intent behind it.
Nevertheless, continuing to drive/ski after an accident is and remains a criminal offense.
If you are caught, you can expect a high fine or up to three years in prison.
The police in Austria find it difficult to track down 'skiers': "Witnesses who have seen something often don't get any further than 'someone in a red jacket and black pants.
The descriptions are often vague. Usually with thousands of guests in a ski resort it is looking for a needle in a haystack".
Private videos help
Constant video surveillance of ski slopes is impossible. That would cost a lot of money. That is why the police chief calls in the help of other skiers.
Since, many winter sporters film with their mobile phone or have a GoPro camera on their helmet. "Private videos of skiers or snowboarders can help us," says the police chief.
"When witnesses to an accident give us their recordings, it often helps us further in our investigation."
We point out the slope rules, we ask witnesses to come forward, we call on all winter sports tourists to look out for each other.
The Head of Alpine Police appeal to people's common sense and hope that if an accident occurs, they will stop, offer help and exchange their contact details.
It just ensures that everyone gets what they deserve in the end."
https://www.tt.com/artikel/30902400/jeder-fuenfte-fluechtet-nach-unfall-auf-piste-was-tirols-polizei-und-skigebiete-tun-wollen
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Snitches get stitches.
More seriously do you think anyone on their holibobs is going to volunteer their time to go through a load of bureaucracy at an Austrian cop shop to hand over video footage of an incident they weren't involved in?
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@Dave of the Marmottes, wouldn’t you if you had footage of someone get smashed on the slopes?
What about some phone footage of a street robbery or drive cam of a fatal accident?
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I get it, but unless they already know who they want to talk to about an incident and are looking to evidence a conviction, I'm not sure this will help very often. As they point out a person in a red jacket and black pants are still a person in a red jacket and black pants on video. Maybe you get a few more clues - black helmet, some goggles... but where do you start on a mountain with - what - 10,000 people in a resort at once, the majority of which are cycling through weekly.
Unless you're stopping at that moment as a witness to an incident and offering to give evidence how would you ever know that you'd seen something relevant? It all just seems a bit implausible as something the Austrian Police would spend a lot of time on, when weighed against success.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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@ster, I might if I had videoed an actual violent smash but if it was just an everyday collision one of many in a day might not think much of it. Really it would depend on how much of a bellend I thought the perp was in order to determine my level of interest in being a self sacrificing citizen.
Presumably the fuzz will have easy email drop boxes for files with anonymity.
protected if they want to ensure max cooperation.
Not relevant to me as I have no interest in having a go pro.
Technically the skier's code requires all witnesses to stick around and report at any accident but the major flaw in that is there is often not anyone to report to and even if patrol attend an injury accident the priority is the injuries not witness statements. I'd bet everyone here, yes even Zikomo, has breached this aspect of the code.
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In Solden last year, We come across an elderly lady who was smashed by a snowboarder who didn't stop.(Rettenbach WC run)
She was air ambulanced off the mountain, she'd obviously smashed her collarbone and most likely broke ribs.....the doc had to give her Ket to get her comfortable before the loaded her on board.
We were there for at least an hour...I'm full sure if one of us were wearing a GoPro and caught it on camera the authorities would've been very interested in seeing the footage.
The Boarder would've been in sizeable trouble for not stopping.
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Hmm. The only way I can really see it working is if they start putting an equivalent to those yellow Police Incident boards up, requesting people to contact them if they have been witness (digital or otherwise) to an accident.
Just having a "seen it - report it" website will end up with dozens of irrelevant uploads to unreported accidents which they will still have to sort through - let alone the associated costs in hosting and servicing that footage. Unless they are planning funding it from a YouTube/Tiktok stream of Austria Gone Wild! videos for doom scroller clicks.
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I think there are a few on here who have suffered from someone smashing into them and not stopping. I doubt they will agree with the “snitches” point of view.
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@Orange200, FTAOD the snitches comment was satirical.
But the whole thing smacks of - this isn't important enough for us to police in any meaningful way but you the skiing public should feel obliged to do the work neither we nor the resorts do.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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But the whole thing smacks of - this isn't important enough for us to police in any meaningful way but you the skiing public should feel obliged to do the work neither we nor the resorts do.
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Tend to agree with this.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Stanton is full of it ....nothing he says on here is reality .
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| Stanton is full of it ....nothing he says on here is reality . |
Maybe you should address your concerns to the Austrian Journalist (sounds like your worried about being caught) who published the article in the link i provided,,
I just did my best to translate the article ..
Try to be Nice !
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You know it makes sense.
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I saw quite a few police on the slopes in Cervinia, quite a surprise, mainly they just shouted at punters to put their masks back on though. 
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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@Tirol 164, Agree @stanton, posts a lot of tosh however in this case there is a kernel of truth in all this. It has been noticeable over the past 18 months that there have been various media articles expressing concern about skiing and the behaviour of those who go skiing. Not only (mis)behaviour on the slopes but drinking etc too. Not suggesting this is a majority view but maybe a significant minority. I think this comes down to an ongoing change in the way people in the Tirol and other mountain areas view skiing. As everyone on here knows skiing has become much more expensive. Climate change means the smaller, cheaper places that attracted local families have become less viable leaving the larger higher places to attract wealthy tourists. This leaves a good number of locals wondering if the "ski business" is really worth the disruption it causes. It is not helped that those who have made the most money from it all have become very rich indeed but they are generally a small number of politically well connected families, for instance in Ischgl. For some their local sport very much part of "their" heritage is looking like it might become the preserve of wealthy foreigners. Similar issues can be seen in other high tourist areas in Spain and Greece for example
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