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Alastair Pink wrote:
moosepig wrote:
@msutherland, Welcome to snowHeads snowHead

Check out YouTube videos by Igor at the Ustaria Posta, which is in Badia, for some excellent tips for getting around.


He's just posted a video where he and his "amore" ski from the Usteria Posta in Badia village to Lagazuoi, do the hidden valley then ski back. The views will be familiar to many of us who know the area:
http://youtube.com/v/RYDoZic9Fbk?si=f8Sf9D3x9K3-pZ2I


Interesting that he doesn't bother with the horse drawn "lift" and just skates back from the end of the run, I wonder how doable that it it you're not super fit like those two are?

EDIT. Looking at https://openskimap.org/?obj=0c546f12a73078e97d8cddc52e0f41b5cfbb873b#14.09/46.55808/11.96743 it seems the horse bit is about 1.3- 1.5km and is very slightly downhill (on average), so skating out is probably fine.
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sah wrote:



Interesting that he doesn't bother with the horse drawn "lift" and just skates back from the end of the run, I wonder how doable that it it you're not super fit like those two are?

EDIT. Looking at https://openskimap.org/?obj=0c546f12a73078e97d8cddc52e0f41b5cfbb873b#14.09/46.55808/11.96743 it seems the horse bit is about 1.3- 1.5km and is very slightly downhill (on average), so skating out is probably fine.


we've done this, a bit hard work but was quicker than waiting for a horse tow


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If you want to cut out the whole horse tow or skating alternative at the end of the Hidden Valley then when you reach the Capanna Alpina restaurant you can get a taxi from there directly back to the San Cassiano gondola (taxi phone numbers are displayed on a sign there).
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I saw on social media today that doing a trip to the Marmolada from the Sella Ronda/Arabba side is currently not possible because the Portavescovo cable car is closed due to technical concerns and all the pistes underneath it are also closed as a safety measure. The Marmolada cable car itself is operating, so if people can get to Malga Ciapela e.g from Alleghe they can still do the Marmolada.

Looking into this in a bit more detail according to the website https://www.dolomitisuperski.com/en/Experience/Ski-areas/Arabba/Lifts although the Portavescovo cable car (No. 1) is closed the Pescoi gondola (No.2 is operating). However if you get out at the mid-station of the Pescoi gondola I don't think you can even ski over to Passo Padon and down to the Marmolada cable car at Malga Ciapela as the chairlift no. 10 Sass de Vegla is also shown as closed. Here's a list of the pistes, you'll see pistes 8, 9, 6 and 13 are closed, meaning that if travelling from Passo Padon you can't reach Arabba. https://www.dolomitisuperski.com/en/Experience/Ski-areas/Arabba/Slopes
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@Alastair Pink, sounds quite serious, and a shame I like the trip to Passo Padon from Belevedere, chair lift 11 is closed also btw.
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The only lift showing as closed is No.1, the Portavescovo cable car.
We're thinking Marmolada tomorrow from Colfosco, and would have gone No2, Pescoi, then Chair 10, Chair 12 to get over.
Then chairs 13 and 11 to get back.
however it does say piste 6 is closed...... so can you get from mid-station on Pescoi to Chair 10?
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@JDL65, we found the status of individual pistes and lifts rather unreliable. If in doubt check the app/website to see if the Great war route anticlockwise is open as this takes you that way, if it is then all good, if not then you can try and find out where it's closed. The route status seem to be reliable.
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JDL65 wrote:
The only lift showing as closed is No.1, the Portavescovo cable car.
We're thinking Marmolada tomorrow from Colfosco, and would have gone No2, Pescoi, then Chair 10, Chair 12 to get over.
Then chairs 13 and 11 to get back.
however it does say piste 6 is closed...... so can you get from mid-station on Pescoi to Chair 10?


Pescoi and Sass de la Vegla (chair 10 or 4 depending which map you look at) are next door to each other

Tomorrow all may have changed - I cant see why piste 6 should be closed !?!?
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The Pescoi Gondola was closed for the first half of the season because they were awaiting a major part to be delivered. I think it was due to open the week after the BB.

To get to Marmolada, you had to take the Cable car, and ski round to the right. No real hardship.
When there was a queue for that, we simply took the Portados and Carpazza chairs to get to the same route.

The Website currently only shows the PortaVescovo cable car to be closed.

The most direct route to Marmolada is via the Gondola mid station, so if that's running then you can still get over. If route 6 is closed (can't see why it would be), then just download to the base station on the way back and take the chair if you want to head towards Pordoi.

The chair allows you to ski back to Arabba. Alternatively, you could just walk up to the fly or across the car park to get to the Burz.

If Marmolada got the same dump of fresh snow that Cinque Tori got last week, it would have been quite testing for a lot of skiers. Toofy Grin
Should be pretty awesome at the moment, but make sure you get there early before it cuts up. Cool

The base station has numerous notice boards with regularly updated information regarding which routes are open or warnings if any may close.
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brianatab wrote:
The most direct route to Marmolada is via the Gondola mid station, so if that's running then you can still get over.


Not if (as today) the no. 10 Sass de Vegla chairlift from the mid station is closed. wink

Hopefully it'll be operating tomorrow.
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Update: We went to the Marmolada today using the route I mentioned, hopping out at mid-station on the gondola.
The Porta Vesco cable car is closed as is Piste 6 from where it turns right to go under the cable car on the map and across to the gondola mid- station.
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sah wrote:

Interesting that he doesn't bother with the horse drawn "lift" and just skates back from the end of the run, I wonder how doable that it it you're not super fit like those two are?

EDIT. Looking at https://openskimap.org/?obj=0c546f12a73078e97d8cddc52e0f41b5cfbb873b#14.09/46.55808/11.96743 it seems the horse bit is about 1.3- 1.5km and is very slightly downhill (on average), so skating out is probably fine.

Not much fitness required. Though you should be comfortable skating.

There are long sections where the grade is not sufficient to just glide. So you need to skate to keep it moving along. There’re also sections that are slightly uphill too, but pretty short and not steep at all.

Then, there’s the novelty factor of the horse tow. Everyone should do it once. Laughing
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Italian article on why the Portavescovo cable car is closed. https://www.amicodelpopolo.it/2025/03/07/incidente-alla-funivia-arabba-porta-vescovo-ferito-loperatore-la-rassegna-di-venerdi-7-marzo-%e2%96%bavideo/?fbclid=IwZXh0bgNhZW0CMTEAAR3mb3lNV1VUGXPV2_nCNQno4lCt4z-yXKT-w-eq2Ly6Ov-ai_yWZvs9mLk_aem_C3thD-DjsDk94VRrsdwqbw&doing_wp_cron=1741370724.2771089076995849609375

I can't read Italian, but elsewhere somebody posted on Facebook that as the cable car was descending into the cable car station in Arabba on 5th March for the last time at 5pm as it was closing there was a load bang and some cables snapped and fell onto the piste! Shocked Fortunately because of the time of day there were no people on the slope where the cables fell. The cable car was empty apart from the operator who may have sustained some injury. I don't know if all that is true, perhaps someone who understands the article can say if it agrees with the Facebook poster.

Edit: also see this Reddit post: https://www.reddit.com/r/snowboarding/comments/1j4s4m6/serious_incident_at_arabba_cable_car_no_news/

Photo of the cables resting on the piste....

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You know it makes sense.
Well that will be a closure for the rest of the season then.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Considering how much they've spent upgrading the Sell Ronda lifts in the last few year, I'd take the comments of a taxi driver (see reddit link) blaming cost cutting with a very large dose of salt.

@Alastair Pink,
I just ran the summary of it through google translate.

Quote:
Accident, it seems due to a failure of the cabin control unit, in Arabba, on the Funfor cable car that rises to Porta Vescovo, Wednesday afternoon. Last race of the cable car, fortunately without skiers. The cabin, with the driver on board suddenly does not brake while descending to the valley station. And it goes to bang, at 20 km the hour, against the wall of the structure of the Valle station. For the strait, the driving rope is split and the driver is injured. System seized and opened a file with the hypothesis of crime for culpable injuries.


Makes sense that the driving rope might have snapped if it didn't brake.

Very fortunate that there wasn't a large group of people waiting to go up, otherwise there would have been some very serious injuries.
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There is an interview with the Arabba mayor online and a statement from the lift company, all in Italian but in summary.

Cable car closed for the rest of the season
some pistes to the marmolada reopened on Friday (presumably the one from Porta Vescovo)
attendant onboard was injured but not seriously (phew)
the brake failed and the motor was still running when the car hit the building, it was this that caused the cables to break (rather than the broken cables were the cause). These broken cables now need removing as it sounds like they are caught on the others.
Safety is the first priority for the company etc etc etc


http://youtube.com/v/i31mCOQkSMo

We were in the area when the Gondola wasn't working and my instructor was quite sceptical whether it would be fixed as it is quite old (36 years) and he'd heard they were struggling to get spares. It seems likely they were looking to replace this in the coming years so it will be interesting to see what happens.
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https://www.rainews.it/tgr/veneto/articoli/2025/03/arabba-cabina-della-funivia-finisce-contro-la-stazione-di-valle-aperta-uninchiesta-040500d9-8057-4a1e-972e-ef71032927ad.html
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sah wrote:
Alastair Pink wrote:
moosepig wrote:
@msutherland, Welcome to snowHeads snowHead

Check out YouTube videos by Igor at the Ustaria Posta, which is in Badia, for some excellent tips for getting around.


He's just posted a video where he and his "amore" ski from the Usteria Posta in Badia village to Lagazuoi, do the hidden valley then ski back. The views will be familiar to many of us who know the area:
http://youtube.com/v/RYDoZic9Fbk?si=f8Sf9D3x9K3-pZ2I


Interesting that he doesn't bother with the horse drawn "lift" and just skates back from the end of the run, I wonder how doable that it it you're not super fit like those two are?

EDIT. Looking at https://openskimap.org/?obj=0c546f12a73078e97d8cddc52e0f41b5cfbb873b#14.09/46.55808/11.96743 it seems the horse bit is about 1.3- 1.5km and is very slightly downhill (on average), so skating out is probably fine.


I skied the hidden valley today . I would not have wanted to skate the horse drawn part as most of it was very slushy . I’m glad I did it but if I come back I’ll just catch a taxi . There is a bit of skating to get to the horses and a bit of a walk after the horses to get back to where I parked . There was probably a way to ski back to a lift somewhere that I’m not aware of though .
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