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Hi there so I'm looking to book a trip my partner does not like steap drop offs even though she can ski reds comfortably! Also she doesn't like the actual town to to be really high up looking way down or gondalas which is not ideal when skiing
Of all the places I've been to in France I'm thinking La Plagne or Flaine ? It's been along time since I was at Val /Tignes any other resorts in france I'd love to here about them
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Morzine or Les Gets? Both under 1200m, can get up the hill from both without using a Gondola, and a lot of the area is mountain pastures not rocky high mountain. The downside of all that is that because it's obviously not as high, the snow isn't always as good as higher up.
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Les Saisies?
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Apart from the gondola bit Serre Chevalier is pretty good. Think you can avoid them depending on where you stay. Monetier and Villeneuve you can access the mountain by chair lift.
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Austria
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Yes, Les Saisies. There's only one gondola in the 200km domaine and it's easily avoided. The village is pretty and surrounded by higher ground.
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The not high up town/no gondola wipes out loads of Austria as most are towns at the foot of a mountain that have been developed into ski resorts, so there's usually a gondola from the town to get you up onto the mountain.
Cervinia in Italy has a town that's high up, but it doesn't feel like that when you're there, and most of the domain is accessible by chair lifts (there are a couple of gondolas but they're easily avoided). Lots of reds but few that would be classed as steep drop offs.
Arc 1950 in Les Arcs has that town feel without feeling like you're up high. Also simple to avoid gondolas in the entire LA area. Loads of cruisey blues in LA.
What does she like? Blues/nice accommodation/easy access to apres?
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Zermatt? Let the train take the strain..
There are lost of big lifts as well though..
Great town if you need an alternative to skiing. That could get expensive if that activity is shopping though..
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Hemel Hempstead
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No steep drop offs in Les Saisies that I can think of, we are there right now. First lift today I sat next to a mum and child (on reigns) who asked me where the greens were, we were headed to the "top of the mountain".
"See that easy wide blue below us, follow it for a kilometre and you'll be on the green".
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There are easy ways down from every lift up out of Les Saisies. And the only even slightly scary "edges" are on the long blue Planay run down to Bisanne 1500, which now has a gondola to replace the old chairlift.
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Avoriaz? You said she doesn’t like gondolas but how does she feel about chair lifts?
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Hey thanks guys/girls yes she's fine on chairlifts I'm going to check some of these resorts out she was pretty good in Plagne soleil
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 You know it makes sense.
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@Thick As, I've never been more terrified on a lift than the new mega gondola in Zermatt. The distances between the pylons are immense.
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| joffy69 wrote: |
| @Thick As, I've never been more terrified on a lift than the new mega gondola in Zermatt. The distances between the pylons are immense. |
Absolutely, Zermatt is not the place to go to avoid gondolas. It took an age for us to get back up to the Matterhorn Glacier Station on our way back to Italy, and the climb is up a sheer rock face. They are a feat of engineering!
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@Macey1975, have you looked at Norway or Sweden?
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By gondola (about 20+ people) do you also include cable car (about 6 people), or are the latter acceptable?
Norway was also my reaction.
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| By gondola (about 20+ people) do you also include cable car (about 6 people) |
The difference between a gondola (which can hold 4 to 20+ people) and a cable car (holding 6 to 150 people) is the number of cabins on the cable and frequency of operation.
- Gondola: Continuous cabins and non-stop operation. Usually with seats.
- Cable car: Two cabins - one at the top, one at the bottom - that operate intermittently, passing each other half way up (or down!). Everyone usually stands.
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If LP was OK, then all of Les Arcs is fine for general access, especially the 1600 & 1800 "face" with so many chair and huge slope choice for all of it. 2000 bowl all good too.
Aguille Rouge, and Transarc with closed cabins, no. But all the rest offers great access. 1800 would be a very good location.
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| MotownJunk wrote: |
| Avoriaz? You said she doesn’t like gondolas but how does she feel about chair lifts? |
The whole village of Avoriaz is perched on the edge of a cliff. May be an issue! Although if you arrive in the dark via road (rather than via the Prodains gondola) then maybe you wouldn't realise! Correct that the only gondolas are to access the resort and all of the skiing is accessed via chairlifts.
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Les Houches from St Gervais? Assuming the train doesn't feel anything like a gondola.
But it isn't a very big ski area, and the first train doesn't get you to the top until 10 am.
Or the St Gervais ski area staying in St Nicolas to give you a chairlift up. You could ski most of the Mont d'Arbois ridge as long as you avoided the runs down to Megeve or Princesse which have gondola returns without alternatives*. Could go down to Bettex and use the Monts Rosset chair instead of the gondola to get back up.
[*Actually from Megeve there is an alternative, but it depends on the Grand Vorasset draglift running, which it doesn't always seem to].
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@Macey1975, when are you hoping to take this trip?
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@origen will be early March @owlette have you seen the construction of that lift on YouTube?? Simply amazing !
And thanks to everyone for there suggestions. I will book La Plagne or Les Saises I've been to La Plagne a bunch of times but Les Saises does look real nice also
My partner is technically a good skier ahe had an emergency landing in Chambery a few years back and that has caused some kind of claustrophobia and fear of steep drop offs
Yes Avoriaz would be a no go especially that hotel near the edge
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@jb I did think of Les Houches and le Tour bur not being able to do Brevent , Argentierre would kinda ruin it
I don't like the thought of her thinking she's holding me back
And I live skiing up at the Bochard , it was my first true off piste experience
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@Macey1975, if you go to La Plagne or Les Saisies go the week beginning 15 March, which will be an ideal week, after the French school holidays. Accommodation a lot cheaper, and far fewer people around.
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Appreciate it
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It was just me lol and some friends
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Was going to say Cervinia, but it is high. Like another poster said it doesn't feel that way relative to the town when you're there. Would be lovely in March.
Montgenevre?
Both short hops from Turin.
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Norway! If she can ski European reds, she'll be able to ski most of the blacks in Trysil. Hemsedal is also ok but not as big. Because it's so far north, it's low altitude and feels more like big hills rather than mountains.
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Low and flat means Austria, Eastern Europe, Scandinavia, or France / Germany / Italy lowlands (e.g. Jura).
Try Saalbach, Poiana Brasov, Levi, etc.
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