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| boabski wrote: |
| Friends came home from Tignes via Geneva airport today. No issues/delays. |
There weren't 33,000 to 36,000 journeys being undertaken today. Let's hope that they can secure the road and open ot for this weekend.
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We came through at 4.30 pm yesterday from Albertville direction with no queue at all, but at that time there was a small queue going the other way.
However that bear no relevancy to what Saturday might be like.
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| Mike S wrote: |
According to France Bleu....
PRESS CONFERENCE WEDNESDAY AT 6:30 P.M.
Will the RN90 reopen during the night from Friday to Saturday? This is the most optimistic hypothesis. But it could also happen on Sunday morning, the least favorable scenario. According to our information, the prefecture must specify the schedule this Wednesday at the end of the day during a press conference announced for 6:30 p.m.
Everything will depend on the fixing of the last safety nets and the installation, on several levels, of the various concrete block walls. A priori the area is stabilised, but the geologists still have to give a final opinion. In any case, it will take a 2-hour window to restore the 2x2 lanes in both directions of traffic. |
Any news from the presser?
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| FrediKanoute wrote: |
| Mike S wrote: |
According to France Bleu....
PRESS CONFERENCE WEDNESDAY AT 6:30 P.M.
Will the RN90 reopen during the night from Friday to Saturday? This is the most optimistic hypothesis. But it could also happen on Sunday morning, the least favorable scenario. According to our information, the prefecture must specify the schedule this Wednesday at the end of the day during a press conference announced for 6:30 p.m.
Everything will depend on the fixing of the last safety nets and the installation, on several levels, of the various concrete block walls. A priori the area is stabilised, but the geologists still have to give a final opinion. In any case, it will take a 2-hour window to restore the 2x2 lanes in both directions of traffic. |
Any news from the presser? |
Press conf is at 7pm
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| Google maps is showing that the road is closed until 14 Feb. I dont know where they are getting the information from though |
Can't always be trusted. Last week in Aosta, Google Maps permanently said the (only) road to Cogne was closed. We ended up 'phoning the tourist office, who confirmed Google was wrong and the road was open.
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9:29
Le préfet annonce la réouverture de la RN90
Le préfet de la Savoie François Ravier annonce la réouverture de la RN 90 dans le sens montant. La question en suspens reste de savoir s'il y aura une ou deux voies ouvertes dans le sens montant, selon l'avancée des travaux.
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Should read 19.29, not 9.29. So road will be open to go up, though not yet know if will be one or two lanes
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A mandatory route will be indicated to motorists. "Everyone will be able to go to stations," repeats the prefect of Savoie François Ravier. "The objective is to be ready no later than Friday at noon", whatever the scenario chosen to one or two lanes on the RN 90 in the ascending direction.
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@CourchGal, and in translation
9:29
Prefect announces the reopening of the RN90
The prefect of Savoie François Ravier announces the reopening of the RN 90 in the uphill direction. The outstanding question remains whether there will be one or two lanes open in the uphill direction, depending on the progress of the work.
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At least one lane of the RN 90, where the landslide occurred, will reopen this Friday at noon.
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Phew -that will make a big difference!! Will still have the sleeping bag in the car just in case 
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You know it makes sense.
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How would reopening in the uphill direction affect the traffic going down? We are in Les Arcs and have a flight from GVA at 10:00 on Saturday morning. Wondering if we should travel on the Friday night instead. Any advice much appreciated!
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Currently there is one lane open each way in the tunnel. Rather than two lanes going down in the tunnel, and two lanes going up on the affected road part.
The biggest traffic flow is inwards this weekend.
From the press release, they have two scenarios, dependant upon how work progresses.
I have a 930am GVA flight. Normally I would leave at 430am. This Saturday I'll be leaving at 230am. That assumes the road isn't closed for the works.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Thanks - so do we know if their current plan is to keep the tunnel as one lane each way, plus an additional uphill lane on the affected road? That would mean downhill traffic is still limited to one lane, but uphill now has two?
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| wroteforluck wrote: |
| Thanks - so do we know if their current plan is to keep the tunnel as one lane each way, plus an additional uphill lane on the affected road? That would mean downhill traffic is still limited to one lane, but uphill now has two? |
The Prefecture has not said that, simply that they planned to open at least one uphill lane by midday on Friday, two lanes if repairs to the road could be completed in time.
If they were only able to open one uphill lane it might make sense to switch priority at some point on Saturday. Two downhill lanes/one uphill lane until midday on Saturday, then switching to one downhill/two uphill for the rest of the day. However, I have no idea how quickly and safely they could switch lane directions in the middle of the day, it might be impossible to do in a reasonable timeframe.
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From the Savoie News report of the Savoie press conference this evening:
 RN 90 reopening this Friday with two possible scenarios
In a press conference, the mayor of Savoie, François Ravier, announced the reopening of the RN 90 this Friday at noon. Two scenarios are possible: a single lane open uphill on RN 90 and two downhill under the Ponserand Tunnel, or two open lanes uphill on RN90 and one open lanes under the Ponerand Tunnel. Decisions are not made yet, because they will depend on the progress of the road work. "A lot of people are expected, and the situation will be very complicated if only one lane is open for the uphill," the prefect explained.
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| wroteforluck wrote: |
| How would reopening in the uphill direction affect the traffic going down? We are in Les Arcs and have a flight from GVA at 10:00 on Saturday morning. Wondering if we should travel on the Friday night instead. Any advice much appreciated! |
I don’t think its going to be a normal day regardless of which scenario they put in place. I think it depends on how much of an impact it would have if you were to miss the flight and plan accordingly.
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Val Thorens insta just said that the road will be open from Friday midday.
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| wroteforluck wrote: |
| How would reopening in the uphill direction affect the traffic going down? We are in Les Arcs and have a flight from GVA at 10:00 on Saturday morning. Wondering if we should travel on the Friday night instead. Any advice much appreciated! |
On absolutely normal operation for typical Saturday on this date, you'd need to clear the valley (Moutiers etc) by 8:00am latest. Anything later just won't be reliable, that would mean leaving LA @ 7:00am as last chance.
With this scenario, I'd ESTIMATE that you need to leave at least 2hr earlier than normal from LA making 5:00am the LATEST and probably 4:00am should be your target start.
It backs up fast on "normal" day with any slight complications, this adds another whole dimension.
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@ski3, I cut flights pretty fine sometimes, but I wouldn't call leaving Les Arcs at 7am/Moutiers at 8am for a 10am flight "reliable", I'd call it "unlikely to work" 
@wroteforluck, Personally I'd take the stress out of the equation and plan for a Friday night departure and overnight in Albertville or similar.
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5 min delay and little diversion in Moutiers going down at 9:30. Standing traffic coming up below the tunnel, but for no more than 2km with traffic control.
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| snowdave wrote: |
@ski3, I cut flights pretty fine sometimes, but I wouldn't call leaving Les Arcs at 7am/Moutiers at 8am for a 10am flight "reliable", I'd call it "unlikely to work"
@wroteforluck, Personally I'd take the stress out of the equation and plan for a Friday night departure and overnight in Albertville or similar. |
I can see that context, and not specifically trying to suggest that would work.
To put it more clearly and for anyone not experienced in travelling there before, if you're not past Moutiers on a transfer Saturday by 8:00am at the latest and throughout the peak ski periods, then you'll be queuing for significant time with everyone else. That's for a completely normal transfer Saturday.
This is just going to make that much earlier for anyone needing to fit a tight schedule.
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| Ski lots wrote: |
| 5 min delay and little diversion in Moutiers going down at 9:30. Standing traffic coming up below the tunnel, but for no more than 2km with traffic control. |
Presumably, that's today ?
It'll be absolutely nothing like that on Saturday.
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| ski3 wrote: |
| wroteforluck wrote: |
| How would reopening in the uphill direction affect the traffic going down? We are in Les Arcs and have a flight from GVA at 10:00 on Saturday morning. Wondering if we should travel on the Friday night instead. Any advice much appreciated! |
On absolutely normal operation for typical Saturday on this date, you'd need to clear the valley (Moutiers etc) by 8:00am latest. Anything later just won't be reliable, that would mean leaving LA @ 7:00am as last chance.
With this scenario, I'd ESTIMATE that you need to leave at least 2hr earlier than normal from LA making 5:00am the LATEST and probably 4:00am should be your target start.
It backs up fast on "normal" day with any slight complications, this adds another whole dimension. |
I think you misread his post. His flight is at 10am.
2 hour checkin.
30 mins car faff.
So he needs to arrive, normally, at GVA 730am.
It's often a 2.5hr drive that time of the day, but on big changeover weekends its worth allowing another hour.
So normal leave time of approx 5am.
Of course he could cut it tight, but why?
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With this detail, that's what I've said
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from LA making 5:00am the LATEST and probably 4:00am should be your target start.
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We can both indicate pedantic detail @ChrisKernow, but the information given by both is the same.
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| ski3 wrote: |
With this detail, that's what I've said
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from LA making 5:00am the LATEST and probably 4:00am should be your target start.
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We can both indicate pedantic detail @ChrisKernow, but the information given by both is the same. |
I think you need to get out more mate. Go for a ski, it'll chill you out.
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You know it makes sense.
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@wroteforluck, no brainer for me, get out on Friday.
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Poster: A snowHead
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So assuming this situation is resolved on the 15th weekend, what would be your plan for a 3pm out of GVA? We would be in VT.
Happy to be slightly early and stop at a decent wine shop (we have a wine collector with us) on route to pick up a few bottles before our flight.
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| wroteforluck wrote: |
| Wondering if we should travel on the Friday night instead. Any advice much appreciated! |
I would say a resounding 'Yes' to going Friday night unless there is some overriding reason you can't. Whenever I ski that area I always overnight in Geneva when flying home as I, and friends and family, have just had too many close calls in the past and, in one case, we did miss our flight and had to pay a small fortune to rebook four of us on new flights. That was all in 'normal' conditions with delays being caused by minor traffic problems.
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| afterski wrote: |
So assuming this situation is resolved on the 15th weekend, what would be your plan for a 3pm out of GVA? We would be in VT.
Happy to be slightly early and stop at a decent wine shop (we have a wine collector with us) on route to pick up a few bottles before our flight. |
In trying to avoid the flock of pedantic contribution  not including flight timing etc.
To exit Tarantaise on that date, then 6:00 am latest TRHOUGH Moutiers.
It's not a distance vs time thing, just that it backs up soooo fast that you'll watch literally hours tick by waiting there with everyone else whatever your onwards route and timing.
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Have done a survey today asking everybody I’ve shared a lift in the ValT valley with what their travel plans are and it seems that everyone who is flying is leaving a lot earlier than normal. Latest was a midday departure for a 9pm flight earliest was 02:30 for a 10am flight. Not in the least scientific but hope you find useful regardless.
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If you have a flight to catch on Saturday at a time that means you can't ski Saturday I see little value in hanging around and staying Friday in resort. You may aswell drive down, get a good nights sleep and have a chilled Saturday.
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| ski3 wrote: |
With this detail, that's what I've said
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from LA making 5:00am the LATEST and probably 4:00am should be your target start.
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We can both indicate pedantic detail @ChrisKernow, but the information given by both is the same. |
I don't think ChrisKernow or snowdave were being pedantic FWIW. I think your advice was bad and theirs was good.
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Once took me 8 hours from Geneva on a NY Saturday with no road issues other than traffic.
I’d leave Friday evening. There’s an excellent Lebanese restaurant in Geneva for a chilled Saturday luncheon. Sam’s Grill House, rue du Mont Blanc
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| Layne wrote: |
| If you have a flight to catch on Saturday at a time that means you can't ski Saturday I see little value in hanging around and staying Friday in resort. You may aswell drive down, get a good nights sleep and have a chilled Saturday. |
Time to pack, last meal with fellow holiday makers, visiting the souvenir shops, not finishing apres early because you need to get on the road, etc.. For lots of people Friday night is the last night of their holiday, the holiday doesn't finish Friday at 5pm when the skiing stops. Not everyone, but just highlighting for some people there is a lot of value in departing on Saturday morning rather than Friday evening.
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@bouquetin, fair comment but... you can have a last meal and all the apres you want once you are out of the mountains and a short distance from the airport. Hard to enjoy your Friday evening if you have to get up at the crack or are worried if you are going to make it on time. Under normal circs with a reasonable flight time it wouldn't be an issue but...
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@Layne, also factoring in young kids after a full day on the mountain...
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