 Poster: A snowHead
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@thecramps, my old man always says the same about BT/TNT. Sets up WRC to record and gets wrestling or something.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Eurosport will always let tennis and snooker over run to the detriment of all other sports
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Interesting the views on streaming services, consolidation and what people are willing to pay. Also the thoughts on using FTA as a feeder for subscription channels.
It's a similar scenario with F1. They have their own streaming service which varies in cost depending on country but somewhere in the region of €85 per year. Unfortunately, due to Sky exclusive rights, this was never available in the UK and gradually the service is being withdrawn from other countries in Europe because of Sky's extended reach and other exclusive contracts Canal). When the FTA highlights on Channel 4 were due to end, they did get renewed as I guess someone saw these as providing value in developing and maintaining an interest in the sport to encourage new subscribers.
The problem for me is I would need to take out a full Sky Sports subscription for all the other sports that I have no interest in to cross-subsidise the fact they overpaid for football rights. Not going to happen, especially for a lesser service than F1TV. I'm still able use my F1TV subscription using Smart DNS and will continue to whilst I can. Many people who can't have switched to pirate streams.
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I found an email from discovery+ in my spam folder inviting me to complete a survey, which I did, taking every opportunity to say I would not recommend them and would be cancelling when the subscription went up. Not that I expect this single response will make any difference.
My main regret will be missing out on the occasional insights which I gain from the technical commentary as I find I learn quite a lot from watching the experts (not that it's obvious from my rigid anxious skiing  )
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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MrHL says Warner, who appear to own TNT, has been reported to the monopolies commission. That'll be interesting
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| holidayloverxx wrote: |
| MrHL says Warner, who appear to own TNT, has been reported to the monopolies commission. That'll be interesting |
Just on a pedantic point, the Monopolies and Mergers Commission was replaced by the Competition Commission in 1999, which in turn was replaced in 2014 by the Competition and Markets Authority (CMA). I agree it's hard to keep up with all the changes! 
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@Alastair Pink, that then...
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Just cancelled my subscription, how blooming depressing. I’m just hoping there will some skiing included in the TNT subscription we have with Virgin already. But it will probably just be more bloody football!
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| melbouch wrote: |
| Just cancelled my subscription, how blooming depressing. I’m just hoping there will some skiing included in the TNT subscription we have with Virgin already. But it will probably just be more bloody football! |
If you have TNT with Virgin then I think you've been paying twice if you also had a Eurosport/Discovery+ sub. The TNT subscription should get you access to discovery plus as well. So in your situation I think (but can't be 100% certain) that you'll get all the skiing you do now, all on the new TNT3 & 4 channels on Virgin, plus access to Discovery+ to watch on demand or via the discovery+ app which gives you a richer experience than just on the tele.
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@bouquetin, yeah not sure how it is with Virgin but pretty sure my folks get Eurosport with their BT TV/TNT package
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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Eurosport is currently included in Virgin's normal packages - However TNT is only available as a 'Premium' channel (£18.00)
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Thankfully, we took out a Virgin package only a year ago, I think on an 18 month / 2year contract, so they have 'graciously offered' to pay the £18 extra for the duration of my contract, as a frequent user of the Eurosport channel.
I guess they are hoping that we completely forget about it at renewal time, and not notice the bill go from about £45/mth up to about £100 
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Just to add that the TNT package from VM is £18.00 a month - but you can remove it :: if you only want winter sports, bin it in summer !!
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You know it makes sense.
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FIS does have its own service, highlights but live Europa ski races
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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@Gregors, highlights are useless. It's all about live
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Poster: A snowHead
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I think FIS is trying to buy back the rights to live broadcasts.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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think I can cling on for the rest of the season, look at options next year
have to see about the road cycling as I do enjoy watching that
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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I've just cancelled my subscription. The confirmation page offered me Premium at 50% discount for the first 7 months. It's still too much.
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| Gregors wrote: |
| FIS does have its own service, highlights but live Europa ski races |
Live races available too, if you set your VPN to somewhere like New Zealand. However, no full, on demand coverage.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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As per the other thread, why do you get a VPN and watch the plentiful winter sports on Austria ORF live, the coverage is extensive - alpine, xc, biathlon, ski-jumping (or whatever they call it now).
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| Blackblade wrote: |
| albob wrote: |
@EmmaJay2209, a quick google brought this up -- possibily a bit too 'complicated/expensive' !! :: Oh, Welcome !!
"..To watch German Eurosport from the UK, you can use a satellite dish and receiver pointed at the Astra 1 satellite at 19° East. The Astra 1 satellite broadcasts many German and Austrian TV stations for free.
Equipment you'll need A satellite dish, A satellite receiver, and A LNB (low-noise block). ... |
I live in Germany and can attest that the coverage of alpine skiing, cross-country, biathlon and ski jumping on free to air channels is very good. |
I do too, and agree. Das Erste have had full weekends of pretty much just winter sports since New Year. Really excellent. But of course there's the demand for it, especially the biathlon.
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For Virgin Media users - found this on the VM forums
"..TNT usually costs £18 per month, if you opt in to this offer you will receive TNT Sports at £18 per month with a discount from Virgin Media for £18 which means you will not pay anything extra for the first 6, 12 or 18 months of service, depending on how many months you have remaining of your minimum contract term.
We will contact you at month 17 to remind you that the service will become chargeable if you don't remove it, if you do nothing you will be charged at the current rate from month 18..."
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Interesting that there are deals on Virgin to get TNT included. This may be a good time to look at moving away from Sky.
Also I'd bet Sky have more impact that any of us if they get onto the board at WDB to complain that the death of Eurosport has devalued their subscription offering. Or maybe they're also now not paying for Eurosport. Who knows what the commercial arrangement was there.
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| Blackblade wrote: |
| albob wrote: |
@EmmaJay2209, a quick google brought this up -- possibily a bit too 'complicated/expensive' !! :: Oh, Welcome !!
"..To watch German Eurosport from the UK, you can use a satellite dish and receiver pointed at the Astra 1 satellite at 19° East. The Astra 1 satellite broadcasts many German and Austrian TV stations for free.
Equipment you'll need A satellite dish, A satellite receiver, and A LNB (low-noise block). ... |
I live in Germany and can attest that the coverage of alpine skiing, cross-country, biathlon and ski jumping on free to air channels is very good. |
@Blackblade, are you able to select English commentary for any of the German channels?
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| Alastair Pink wrote: |
| Just on a pedantic point, the Monopolies and Mergers Commission was replaced by the Competition Commission in 1999, which in turn was replaced in 2014 by the Competition and Markets Authority (CMA). I agree it's hard to keep up with all the changes! |
There's still only one of them though.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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I've been watching the races on German (ARD) / Austrian (ORF) services for a while using a (new version) Google TV, with NordVPN App running on it and then either the ARD or ORF apps. Usually one or both have the races either on one of the live channels or streamed. Of course the commentary is in German. I enjoy Felix Neureuther's commentary / analysis on ARD, and it's nice not to constantly hear how Dave Ryding, started on a dry slope in Pendle for the thousandth time. Theres usually a promo code to be found for NordVPN too.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| Tubaski wrote: |
| Alastair Pink wrote: |
| Just on a pedantic point, the Monopolies and Mergers Commission was replaced by the Competition Commission in 1999, which in turn was replaced in 2014 by the Competition and Markets Authority (CMA). I agree it's hard to keep up with all the changes! |
There's still only one of them though. |
Yup, no competition there.
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| Tubaski wrote: |
| it's nice not to constantly hear how Dave Ryding, started on a dry slope in Pendle for the thousandth time.. |
You mean thats not what they are saying in German, or Zenhäusern’s long levers or Michael Matt’s brother?
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You know it makes sense.
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I think it was Ed Drake the other day who used one of the phrases and then made references to "ski commentator bingo card", I think it may have been long levers or possible "low and late in the line".
It can't be an easy task commentating on individual runs of the same course over and over though, and it could be much worse. I sometimes watch a bit of drifting and one of the guys uses pretty much the same script for every run.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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I was upset that I would be loosing Eurosport and the skiing and cycling coverage. Mrs D went on a live chat with Sky (which we subscribe to) and they added TNT Sport to our subscription for no additional cost but we had to take out a new 2 year contract.
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Poster: A snowHead
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@Doss, that's what we are going to try
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Maybe that's what we will do, sign-up for Sky 
Edited to say, that's it's £60 a month for UHD, Netflix and TNT Sports.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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I really enjoyed Nick Fellow's commentary, not sure I could watch when it's German even if it's free.
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| russ_e wrote: |
| I really enjoyed Nick Fellow's commentary, not sure I could watch when it's German even if it's free. |
Nick left Eurosport in January 2024 to became a director of FIS TV which was the newly launched streaming platform by the International Ski Federation (FIS). Ed Drake took over his commentary at Eurosport.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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@Jaolchhu4, and I have to say Ed's commentary is considerably less annoying
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| schnitzel_skier wrote: |
| @Jaolchhu4, and I have to say Ed's commentary is considerably less annoying |
I think Ed has really come into his own this season. He sounds much more confident and provides more insight when commentating IMO.
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| Jaolchhu4 wrote: |
| schnitzel_skier wrote: |
| @Jaolchhu4, and I have to say Ed's commentary is considerably less annoying |
I think Ed has really come into his own this season. He sounds much more confident and provides more insight when commentating IMO. |
He knows what he's talking about - unlike the other guy (Charlie Brougham?). The Austrian sidekick (Marcel?) is good but tends to repeat lots of Ed's phrases!
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@thecramps, Just saw this on the BBC sport website. I've seen no promotion of it on the BBC TV. That's my next few days sorted out
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Of course, one of the problems with tomorrow is that the cricket is also on.
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