 Poster: A snowHead
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Will be using my ski bag as the only piece of checked baggage for the first time. Previously I've just used it for skis and taken a case or holdall for the rest. Any tips or things to watch out for? Has anyone had clothes damaged by ski edges? Will be taking boots separately in carry-on back pack.
It's a double ski bag and I'm only taking one pair, so that opens the possibility of splitting them to make it easier to add stuff - but does that risk damaging the ski surface?
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I presume it's an old skool ski bag as opposed to a newer style roller bag? I would keep your skis together with straps at the top and bottom. Maybe some bubble wrap around the bindings, tips and tails. Think about your poles. Then your clothing around the skis etc. Watch the weight though, you'll have to lug it on your shoulder.
A better way is to invest in a long roller bag IMO.
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It is a modern roller bag. Thule. Thanks for your reply. Duly noted.
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I have mine in a thin ski sleeve inside my roller bag. Means I am less likely to damage clothing while in transit, and also gives you a small bag to use once there for daily ski buses, or to use as protection in a rental car.
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| DCG wrote: |
| It is a modern roller bag. Thule. Thanks for your reply. Duly noted. |
@DCG, that changes things! In that case I suggest using an old bed sheet as a liner. Split the skis with the brakes held up and some bubble wrap around the tails. Lay flat, tails at the wheel end. If you are worried about the edges you can add some pipe lagging so the edges are covered, although it's not needed as the idea is that the sheet will take the fretting. Drop your poles in then wrap the sheet over the top to cover the skis. Then just pack around with clothes but watch your bag weight.
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Fleece items, shoes, jeans & tough stuff can survive as-is; shells and down items need protection. I tape the skis together with something (like a strap) between the bases, so they're not moving around and getting exposed by the gorillas tossing them into the hold.
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Actually you won't need to worry about weight unless your clothes are made of lead! One pair of skis & poles are <15lbs and you get 50 on most airlines.
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I start with a lightweight towel (for mid-week swimming trips) folded along its length and then laid flat on the base of the roller bag, then skis with bindings up, and lie my boots on the tails of the skis - you want as much of the weight as possible at the wheel end for ease of movement. Use clothing to pad out the bindings, and put your washbag and things like cables in last in case you need them quickly at either end, which applies to a hat and gloves as well as walking out of the airport into a snowstorm isn't great unless you are prepared. Lay your poles either side of the skis - better to have bent poles than damaged edges.
I tend to end up with about 20-21 Kg total weight, of which half is accounted for by the skis and boots. A separate small rucksack has my electronics, helmet, fleece and jacket.
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| Scooter in Seattle wrote: |
| Actually you won't need to worry about weight unless your clothes are made of lead! One pair of skis & poles are <15lbs and you get 50 on most airlines. |
Tell me you're American without telling me you're American...
Anyway, most European airlines allow 15kg as a limit for ski carriage, which I can attribute as 2xpairs skis without bindings, 1 pair poles and the 1 set bindings in a bag. That's in a snokart 2 pair roller bag (15kg pretty much on the nail). Also, many airlines DO NOT allow the substitution of a ski bag as the main checked luggage in exchange for a hold suitcase/bag.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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@Smokies and Wine, fair, but also: the OP is only bringing one pair. Still plenty of "room" for clothes and the bag itself.
BA allows 23kg, but I can definitely see why one might want to avoid them. After all, you want your stuff to arrive with you!
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| Scooter in Seattle wrote: |
BA allows 23kg, but I can definitely see why one might want to avoid them. After all, you want your stuff to arrive with you! |
I am flying BA  I'll blame you if my bag doesn't arrive!
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You know it makes sense.
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@DCG, you better not!  They're 0-3 with me, although there was a connection at LHR each time.
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Thanks all for these suggestions. A number of great ideas
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Poster: A snowHead
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Pipe lagging over the ski poles works well for me too.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I bought a double ski bag about 3 years ago and used it for the first time on my Banff trip. Same thought as you..... 1 pair of skis and loaded with clothes.
It got 'lost' and didn't leave Heathrow!
Arrived 4 days into a 7 day trip. Fortunately, I had my boots and a few bits in my boot bag.
Regarding the double bag.... pain the back bottom, never used it since. My skis also put a slice in my trousers.
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My bindings are quick release, so I take them off and stick them in the bottom with the boots. (take a photo of the settings first). Saves faffing about strapping them up and no risk of the brakes poking out of the bag.
I've got a Dalkine roller.
I lay my skis on edge on either side as this helps with rigidity of the bag, poles alongside, and all the other gear packed in between. Helmet and toiletries in last.
Mine's a double bag, so never packed tight within the weight limit so I put a strap about half way around the outside to prevent stuff sliding to the bottom. Helps identify my bag as well.
BA allow 23kg, and I'm usually near the limit on the way out (includes a 2 week supply of 48g snickers bars  ). I always take a small hand luggage with essentials, in which I can fit my day pack, containing laptop, camera and batteries. I then "offer" my hand luggage into the hold, and just carry the backpack through the airport. Ski jacket goes in hand luggage for easy access, and just a fleece in the airport.
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| most European airlines allow 15kg as a limit for ski carriage |
Really? easyjet, Ryanair and Jet2 all allow 20kg ski bags (in addition to the previously mentioned BA).
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I have seen the 15kg limit somewhere, possibly Crystal/TUI though.
Also it's not like EJ or BA limit the weight either, it's just you have to pool an allowance or buy more. E.g Easyjet allow 20kg ski bag but you can have a bag up to 32kg, it's just a case of buying more hold luggage weight.
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| mountainaddict wrote: |
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| most European airlines allow 15kg as a limit for ski carriage |
Really? easyjet, Ryanair and Jet2 all allow 20kg ski bags (in addition to the previously mentioned BA). |
My most recent experience of Jet2 was 15kg limit, in fact you had to pay for a checked bag in any case, but there was no "swap out" option . Frankly I'd not use Ryanair, so you may be correct, easyjet I'll be dealing with shortly, so I'll see how that goes.
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@Smokies and Wine, I have a Jet2 booking for later this month - no hold luggage, plus a ski bag. It can easily be done, so not sure how you missed it.
If you turn up with a ski bag which isn't booked, and a hold bag booking with no hold bag, I expect you'll have some pain trying to change it, and worst case is your bag can't be carried if there's a limit in the ski loading.
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| My most recent experience of Jet2 was 15kg limit |
I was wrong about Jet2 @Smokies and Wine... their ski bag limit is 22kg. Looks like you were misinformed by them 
And here's confirmation re easyjet and Ryanair - both are 20kg:
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| I have seen the 15kg limit somewhere, possibly Crystal/TUI though |
Definitely the case @SnoodyMcFlude - the charter flight operators impose that limit to ensure punters aren't getting away with two pairs of skis in one bag...
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Reading all this reminds me why I’ve never bought my own skis for my less than once a year habit! Too much faff!
And just got stung by EJ’s mini cabin bag sizing, that’s an extra €110 for those two oversized cabin bags sir as you didn’t book speedy boarding. But your wife did so hers is ok. Wtf? We all booked the same…
I don’t have time for this complexity.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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To be fair to easyJet, they sent me several emails clearly listing what luggage allowance I had booked and would be allowed to travel with.
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@DCG,
I've been doing this for quite a while and have never damaged either clothing or equipment: the bag itself will prevent damage to the bases.
Fix the brakes, lay skis flat and cover the bindings with bubblewrap - I actually take mine off because I can.
My bag has internal straps so stops the skis moving, but the same thing can be accomplished clothing.
As others have said, heavier things toward the wheels helps maneuverability.
Cover the tips with an old towel - helps you dry them off before repacking.
If you're not wearing your snow/walking boots and they're relatively light weight, keep them accessible at the top in case either the airport or resort have surface snow.
Enjoy your trip 
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You know it makes sense.
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@mozwold, Thanks. Hope you enjoy Alleghe again this year. I hope to do the double some time but not had any luck getting a single room.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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| mountainaddict wrote: |
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| My most recent experience of Jet2 was 15kg limit |
I was wrong about Jet2 @Smokies and Wine... their ski bag limit is 22kg. Looks like you were misinformed by them
And here's confirmation re easyjet and Ryanair - both are 20kg:
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I had a discussion with a customer services rep yesterday on WhatsApp in which they explicitly stated that "ski carriage" is not to be used for anything other than ski equipment.
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Poster: A snowHead
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The problem with EJ and Ryanair is that they keep reducing the size of the hand luggage allowances to rip off customers.
The sell luggage to their specs, then rip off those same customer when they turn up with that same luggage a couple of years later because it's "oversize", and then expect them to buy new.
eg EJ cuurently allow 45x36x20 and 15kg, but in 2020 it was 56x45x25 and 10kg (not that it was ever checked for weight).
https://sl.bing.net/c76bwSdfpYG
It's something that ought to have been standardised throughout the EU years ago (along with many other things).
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| It's something that ought to have been standardised throughout the EU years ago (along with many other things) |
Didn't that highly honourable Johnson chap promise it as a benefit of Brexit, along with the extra £350m a week for the NHS? 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| brianatab wrote: |
The problem with EJ and Ryanair is that they keep reducing the size of the hand luggage allowances to rip off customers.
The sell luggage to their specs, then rip off those same customer when they turn up with that same luggage a couple of years later because it's "oversize", and then expect them to buy new.
eg EJ cuurently allow 45x36x20 and 15kg, but in 2020 it was 56x45x25 and 10kg (not that it was ever checked for weight).
https://sl.bing.net/c76bwSdfpYG
It's something that ought to have been standardised throughout the EU years ago (along with many other things). |
Ryan Air kept sending me some petition thing protesting about some new EU rules. I ignoed those emails, as my feeling is that if it's something Ryan Air is against will mean that it's acutally good for passengers.
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Easyjet still have the option of paying extra for 56x45x25 pull along but last time I looked a suitcase in the hold was cheaper.
BA get a lot of stick but tbh all airlines have problems, I recently had my share with KLM.
Who ever I am flying with I max out my cabin baggage to be able to first few days of a trip with only needing to rent skis and poles so boots, base layers, shell, helmet, gloves etc in my cabin bag (ba and easyjet) if my ski bag goes a miss. I put all the rest in my ski bag (carry over shoulder paddee dakine bag, used to have a thule roller but ditched as to heavy 3.8kg). Skis go on bottom of bag with brakes up with everything else packed in. No special packing bags or extra padding (just to much faff and extra weight). Have managed to get 3 pairs of skis(quiver killler shift bindings) all avi gear and enough clothing for 10 days skiing in whistler on maxing out a ba economy ticket baggage with no extra kg.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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"I had a discussion with a customer services rep yesterday on WhatsApp in which they explicitly stated that "ski carriage" is not to be used for anything other than ski equipment."
That discussion is on the same level as talking to a traffic warden .
Its all about them .
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@Tirol 164, I hate that type of "computer says no" jobs worth. Mostly the people at check in are reasonable and generally happy if something fits the weight and dimension restrictions.
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| mountainaddict wrote: |
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| It's something that ought to have been standardised throughout the EU years ago (along with many other things) |
Didn't that highly honourable Johnson chap promise it as a benefit of Brexit, along with the extra £350m a week for the NHS? |
Why do you have to whinge and bring Johnson and Brexit into a non political discussion?
And no, I don't think he specifically mentioned rules on cabin luggage.
Fact is, Ryanair is an Irish company, KLM is Dutch, and EJ operate throughout Europe, so outside the jurisdiction of the UK, but well within the jurisdiction of the EU, and someone ought to have proposed EU wide rules on cabin baggage to prevent EU passengers being ripped off decades ago, (long before Brexit).
The facility to do so already exists under EU law, it just needs the appropriate Minister in post to actually do something practical and useful* instead of sitting on their #rses and thinking what else they can claim on their expenses.
At the very least, if a customer bought "approved size" luggage from the carrier, then it ought to be viable for the lifetime of that luggage, not only 12 months until said carrier reduces their dimensions in order to sell more luggage.
*in the same way that (20 years too late) a decision was finally made regarding phone chargers.
Useful, practical, everyday decisions by EU Ministers being seen to be of benefit to members of the public, and preventing them being ripped off might have avoided Brexit in the first place.
Apart from phone chargers, can anyone suggest any other such practical decisions in the last 20 years?
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| brianatab wrote: |
The problem with EJ and Ryanair is that they keep reducing the size of the hand luggage allowances to rip off customers.
The sell luggage to their specs, then rip off those same customer when they turn up with that same luggage a couple of years later because it's "oversize", and then expect them to buy new.
eg EJ cuurently allow 45x36x20 and 15kg, but in 2020 it was 56x45x25 and 10kg (not that it was ever checked for weight).
https://sl.bing.net/c76bwSdfpYG
It's something that ought to have been standardised throughout the EU years ago (along with many other things). |
because EZY relaxed their cabin bag rules a few years ago everyone started taking medium size bags into the cabin to save money, rather than taking hold bags -
However since you can only get three bags in an overhead locker this caused far more problems when boarding so they've changed their charging policy and moved back to trying to get people to use hold bags again
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| Tirol 164 wrote: |
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That discussion is on the same level as talking to a traffic warden .
Its all about them . |
no, it's all about the law.
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@geoffers, yeah EJ had to do something because people were taking the wee wee
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