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Does anyone else suffer with these when skiing?

I imagine something to do with the altitude but boy have I had a rotten time with these last week!

I’m not kidding I must have had x8 full on, struggle to stop nosebleeds during my week in Les Menuires.

A few of them were pure gross as well. Like almost explosive etc.

A lot of them I probably triggered due to blowing my nose, it’s either that or chapped lips! Can’t win. What can I do?
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@v1cky24, one of my kids used to. The most dramatic was bleeding all over a plate of rare roast beef at dinner. I'm not sure the vegetarian on the next table was too impressed.
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I don't think the dry air helps either.
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@SnoodyMcFlude,I think it was definitely worse when the weather was sunny, cold and dry.
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Oh I’ve really struggled. They don’t seem to stop easily either Sad
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v1cky24 wrote:
Does anyone else suffer with these when skiing?

I imagine something to do with the altitude but boy have I had a rotten time with these last week!

I’m not kidding I must have had x8 full on, struggle to stop nosebleeds during my week in Les Menuires.

A few of them were pure gross as well. Like almost explosive etc.

A lot of them I probably triggered due to blowing my nose, it’s either that or chapped lips! Can’t win. What can I do?


For chapped lips, always used plain and simple vaseline during cold weather risk periods. Cycling through winter as a kid, lifelong motorcycle riding, most effective and simple I've found.

Nosebleed, I'm not unduly affected, by it but blowing often doesn't help. The grim detail of emptying a nostril though Very Happy try squeegee...ing with thumb on side of one nostril just under bridge and down to exit into a tissue and no .... blow maybe more gentle and less disturbing.

My sister had sporadic bleeds that her gp intervened by arrangement of having one site quaterized internal to nostril which was effective. Enquiry to that effect may be something to discuss.
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Our daughter suffered a lot from nosebleeds when she was a teenager, and cold dry air did seem a risk factor. Fortunately she seems to have grown out of it.

One thing that did seem to help was smearing some vaseline on the inside of her nostrils. The vaseline is obviously an approach to chapped lips too, though when skiing we usually used sunscreen lip sticks.
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I'm not sure the vegetarian on the next table was too impressed.

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I used to get them all the time as a teenager and young adult, but as I got older the only time I got them was when skiing! Usually somewhere high-ish altitude, after a period of exertion (I distinctly remember having one about 1/3 down the Sasslong black, and leaving a trail of blood all over the piste!). They were pretty horrific, and I stopped them by sitting down at the side of the piste with a packet of tissues and my head bent forward, trying to slow my heart rate. Be careful blowing your nose, especially straight after. Always do it gently.

On the positive side, after about 5 years of that, they pretty much stopped completely, so you may not have to suffer indefinitely.
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@v1cky24, one of my kids used to. The most dramatic was bleeding all over a plate of rare roast beef at dinner. I'm not sure the vegetarian on the next table was too impressed.


That must have been an interesting evening Laughing
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I’ve had my nose cauterized once before. I think I’m just one of these individuals that has nasal anatomy that isn’t good and gets irritated easily.

These bleeds when skiing though, seem to be on another level! I got stuck in a bathroom and couldn’t button my salopettes up as every time I let go of my nose it was like a tap. Up the walls and everything Crying or Very sad

Sorry a bit TMI but when the bleeding has eventually slowed down a full on palm sized bloody slug /(clot) came out one day too! Grim!!
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v1cky24 wrote:
Hells Bells wrote:
@v1cky24, one of my kids used to. The most dramatic was bleeding all over a plate of rare roast beef at dinner. I'm not sure the vegetarian on the next table was too impressed.


That must have been an interesting evening Laughing


Certainly gives a different slant to the term "claret" as description Very Happy

Don't worry, whitegold will be along soon to tell you the answer is Klosters Very Happy
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Not much help - but I've found that staying above 2,200m causes me to bleed and get headaches but I can ski at higher altitudes 0 so usually stay below 2KM for sleeping and then ski higher if need be - otherwise avoid Switzerland and VT and Colorado. Harley street doctors website suggests - Unresolved dryness can be a major cause of nosebleeds. If this occurs, sit forward, pinch the lower, soft part of the nose and apply a dollop of snow (there should hopefully be enough of it around) to the base of the neck and / or forehead. This causes the blood to clot, slowing and stopping the flow. Wait for 15 minutes and then reassess. If your nosebleed does not improve after half an hour, seek medical help.
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Very opportune. Mrs SL suffers from irregular nose bleeds throughout the year. But far more frequently when we are in the mountains, although curiously more often in the apartment than when actually skiing. Arrived in Tignes this afternoon; sorted ourselves out; had some light dinner; then the nose bleed started. First one for a couple of months. Lots of tissues and head forward. I might have made this up but I hold on to the belief that like coffee beans and olive oil, tissues are cheaper in France. It is something she just puts up with it has been going on since she was a kid - the photos then were at least black and white.
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I'm currently in LM and had a torrential nosebleed yesterday while coming down into Mottaret at great speed yesterday.

I pinched the soft bit if the nose for 20 mins which very much interested the dog outside the supermarket, then applied my normal nosebleed solution (which isn't in any first aid manual!), the noise tampon - a rolled up bit of tissue shoved up the nostril when the bleed has slowed to normal nosebleed speed. I then kept that in throughout the afternoon (including when I was introduced to my son's future employer) and it was fine. I won't be blowing my nose this week though!
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@SarahRad, yeah, my dad (GP) used to fashion a tampon from cotton wool, screwed tightly in. Worked a treat. Not that I had many nosebleeds, just one bad one I remember while I was recovering from chicken pox. I'm not sure this is the orthodox treatment though...
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SnoodyMcFlude wrote:
I don't think the dry air helps either.


This is it. Happens most of the time when we go to our place in the mountains.
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my dad (GP) used to fashion a tampon from cotton wool, screwed tightly in

I suspect that's a fairly standard and effective treatment but not one that would ever be "officially" recommended for amateurs.
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UCLA health website says the following. Maybe applying something as a barrier might help to provide protection against the cold air.

'The low humidity that comes with the onset of colder winter weather also plays a role. This is due to cold outdoor temperatures and the heated air indoors, either of which can quickly dry out the delicate membranes within the nose. This can cause them to crack, which can rupture a blood vessel'.

https://www.uclahealth.org/news/article/dry-air-a-common-cause-of-nosebleeds-especially-in-children#:~:text=The%20low%20humidity%20that%20comes,can%20rupture%20a%20blood%20vessel.
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I used to suffer badly from nosebleeds when I was younger. Never thought to map a causation chart. They did stop as I aged though. Mum was a nurse… head back nose up til it stopped. Never blow, let it stop and congeal then pick off the hard bits.
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Laughing nose tampon. I must confess i do this also. I get that many nosebleeds it’s the fastest way to help I find!
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I have a weak capillary in one nostril and have nosebleeds all the time in altitude and dry air. Often only realise when people recoil in horror as I walk into a resto or lodge.
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Only when seeing the price list in French bars Toofy Grin
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Morning
are you taking ibuprofen?

Took me a few years to work out the link between my constant nosebleeds (anywhere in the world) and taking ibuprofen.

Since stop taking it (for knee pain) my nosebleeds all but vanished
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Only when seeing the price list in French bars Toofy Grin


No that makes me vomit Laughing
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You sure that's not the copious quantities of Genepi, once you've sucked up the prices? Laughing
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SarahRad wrote:
then applied my normal nosebleed solution (which isn't in any first aid manual!), the noise tampon -


It is actually a universally used solution for broken noses/nosebleeds in rugby. All the match doctors carry tampons for just this reason. They use actual tampons mind you, rather than rolled up tissues!
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SarahRad wrote:
then applied my normal nosebleed solution (which isn't in any first aid manual!), the noise tampon -


It is actually a universally used solution for broken noses/nosebleeds in rugby. All the match doctors carry tampons for just this reason. They use actual tampons mind you, rather than rolled up tissues!


You're kind of right...they're actually called nasal plugs, they can be bought on Amazon and Physio supply sites, anyone susceptable to nosebleeds I recommend wholeheartedly buying some and just keeping them in your pocket so they're there when you need them also keeping your nasal passages as moist as you can will help dramatically so a decent nasal spray (even just saline) taken a few times a day will deffo help.
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