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Hi there,
Off to St Anton with a school group next Friday. One of my teachers has had to drop out and at short notice have managed to get a boarder to take his place. (I am completely ignorant of anything to do with boarding and have never taken a snowboarding teacher on the 18 + trips I have organised)
Simple question, If I ask him to go with a beginner group or our top group (most of whom are excellent skiers) will he likely have any trouble in St Anton either keeping up or anything else you might think of? I believe he is a decent boarder.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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So much in what does excellent skiers and decent boarder mean? But on the assumption that as a school group you aren't really off piste and thus doing long traverses to access terrain can't see why there would be an issue. There is one piste back to Zuers that has a long flat along the road and the final bit from Madloch down to Zug might be viewed as flattish but I don't think it's really an issue. After all decent boarders know when to pin it to avoid walking.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Thanks Dave. Totally understand what you mean although our top groups will often do a fair amount of off-piste once their instrutor gets them, albeit as safe as you will get off piste!
I think you have answered my question in exactly the ways I was hoping! I have no idea how good the boarder is other than he has done a lot of it....
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| boggyjo wrote: |
| .. Simple question, If I ask him to go with a beginner group or our top group (most of whom are excellent skiers) will he likely have any trouble in St Anton either keeping up or anything else you might think of? I believe he is a decent boarder. |
I guess I'd just talk it through with him, see what he feels about it. Point out up front the options for switching groups and how that would work. Then it's his responsibility to correctly assess what he can and can't do. Also he knows that if he slows people down you'll have to reorganize; so there's minimal stress should a switch be needed.
As an English snowboarder I come across a lot of skiers who assume that I must be incompetent. It seems rude and inevitably results in me politely working them over.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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As a snowboarder who mostly rides with skiers I can say it's rarely ever an issue. Of course it depends how good both parties are.
You could ask him, and assuming he gives you an honest answer go from there. He may even rather go with a low group.
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As an English snowboarder I come across a lot of skiers who assume that I must be incompetent.
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I don't think it's even a case of being English. Plenty of times on here people are concerned about their border friends using a drag lift. As though that's not a fairly basic skill anyone half competent would manage fine.
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our top groups will often do a fair amount of off-piste once their instrutor gets them, albeit as safe as you will get off piste!
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Massive alarm bells. But perhaps you mean some ungroomed itineraries. Or maybe they are all carrying avy equipment? Might need some very good insurance 
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our top groups will often do a fair amount of off-piste once their instrutor gets them, albeit as safe as you will get off piste!
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Massive alarm bells. But perhaps you mean some ungroomed itineraries. Or maybe they are all carrying avy equipment? Might need some very good insurance [/quote]
Yes, I guess that is what they do and always with the instructors. I tend to stay clear of them if that is what they are likely doing! Piste at speed flicks my switch.
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I'd be more concerned with keeping the kids out of the Mooserwirt.
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I skied with good boarders in SA and there were no issues at all for the most part. It was harder for them to keep up with the fast skiers on a board, but we all stopped to reconvene at piste heads/ends and junctions. It's part of being in a group. The only limitation was that some of the off-piste runs we did were not easy for the boarders due to some flat runouts.
The only problem I forsee is that if the boarder is expected to be responsible for the welfare of kids, they're a lot less mobile/able to assist unless on foot. Depends on the level of the kids and the expectations the organisers and parents have.
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As Dave said above. One of the most important skills that you develop as a boarder is looking ahead and deciding when to put the hammer down. If in doubt always carry as much speed as you can on any flat and if any turning is required then its carving only....
It is one thing to consider that if he ends up with the lesser skilled group that at some points he will need to commit to an up coming flat at speed which might leave the youngsters behind.
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As an English snowboarder I come across a lot of skiers who assume that I must be incompetent.
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Incompetent at what: skiing, route finding for skiers or computational fluid dymnamics?
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As an English snowboarder I come across a lot of skiers who assume that I must be incompetent.
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Incompetent at what: skiing, route finding for skiers or computational fluid dymnamics? |
I think his understanding of fluids is fine given how many skiers he comes across.
That was crude, apologies.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Thanks for the replies.
In theory, the teachers are just there for the discipline of the group, not to be picking them up, although that happens of course, so should be no issues.
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