 Poster: A snowHead
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What are the pros and cons of the various routes from Calais to the Arlberg, and what are the recommendations for hotels en-route? I had an horrendous grid-locked traffic experience in October when driving through Luxembourg when returning from Austria.
We’re driving there on the Friday at the end of January, returning a week later and would like to get pretty close to the Arlberg on the Friday to try to avoid the holiday traffic on the Saturday. We arrive in Calais at 11.15.
On the way back would like to be within 3hrs of Calais when we return on the Saturday.
Last edited by Poster: A snowHead on Wed 27-11-24 10:30; edited 1 time in total
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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What way are you going to go - Bregenz/ Feldkirch or Fernpass?
I guess I'd shoot for somewhere on German side of border for the latter or one of the towns in Austria for the former.
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Germany can have roadworks and no tolls, france has great motorways with tolls. Lots of etap, formula 1 type lodges on route, pretty easy to push through with 2 drivers and doable with one. no lorries on the roads weekends. could look to stop for a cheeky german christmas market. obviously vehicle requirements and keep a bit of small change for pay toilets.
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We went to Voarlberg last year and stayed in Strasbourg, which meant an easy drive past the Bodensee and arrival in Sankt Gallenkirch by 1400 after a supermarket shop... Found a most excellent Thai restaurant in Strasbourg near the airport Ibis.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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@Dave of the Marmottes, Fernpass for Arlberg when coming from Calais is not a good plan.
Must be via Strasbourg or Stuttgart, or Zürich, and then Bregenz.
Freiburg-Konstanz-Bregenz imo is a rather tiring route as a lot is not-autobahn.
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I would avoid the Fernpass, it should be OK outside of weekends but is slow and if a storm comes in it causes chaos. Via Bregenz is much better, quicker and easier driving, if you are heading for St Anton then you can avoid the tunnel cost by using the pass, assumes weather is good which it mostly is. For years have done Calais-Munich via Luxembourg (Luxembourg apparently has worst traffic jams in Europe but easy to avoid Luxembourg City via Esch sur Alzette) & Karlsruhe, 10 hours assuming no major hold ups. Arlberg should be a bit quicker as closer. We always do this in one hit though in mid winter lack of daylight can be an issue. Think you need to do Karlsruhe - Ulm then south on A7 / A96 going via Strasbourg doesnt make much sense as no easy route through Black Forest, if set on using Autoroutes better Saarbrücken-Karlsruhe. Usual endless recent discussions on winter tyres, you need 3PMSF tyres on all wheels (if you have an old set of M+S ones in the garage leave them there!). If you plan on driving up the Flexenpass you might need snow chains (though unlikely). Austrian vignette now available on line but only buy from official ASFINAG site https://shop.asfinag.at/en/, if a two week stay then one day vignettes now available.
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Thanks @munich_irish. Having looked at the options I think via Luxembourg (Esch sur Alzette), Permasens, Karlsruhe, Ulm, Bregenz looks the way to go (no tolls a bonus). Should have said we are going to Lech, and therefore never had any intention of using the Fernpass.
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Just for the record: Fernpass is never a good idea when coming from Calais (or from/via Holland, from Hamburg etc). Not for Lech, not for St.Anton or any other Arlberg village.
You simply drive via Bregenz, it's always the fastest route.
Fernpass is for West-Tyrol, but not for Arlberg
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