Hi there
A group of us are in Selva this week and want to do the Hidden Valley one day. Can anyone tell me the best route please? We are all good intermediate on piste skiers. Thanks !
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best or quickest?
dantercepies then the 2 way borest chair, then the chair kind of opposite, drop down the white path and go up col alt gondola, drop down, braia faida chair, then my memory goes a bit hazy, but i think one more chair (might be several options?) and you can get down to Armentarola. Get a bus/shared taxi there up to Lagazuoi, and go up that cable car. The run from there back towards Armentalrola is the Hidden Valley
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The Dolomiti Superski site has a very smart route planner at http://www.dolomitisuperski.com/en/ski-more/ski/ski-route-planner Put your starting point as Selva Gardena - Wolkenstein and your finish point as Lagazuoi. Follow the instructions/map and you're ready to head off down the Hidden valley.
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There's also an app for the phone, but the routing could send you anywhere.
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andy wrote:
best or quickest?
dantercepies then the 2 way borest chair, then the chair kind of opposite, drop down the white path and go up col alt gondola, drop down, braia faida chair, then my memory goes a bit hazy, but i think one more chair (might be several options?) and you can get down to Armentarola. Get a bus/shared taxi there up to Lagazuoi, and go up that cable car. The run from there back towards Armentalrola is the Hidden Valley
Correct - at least two - the Ciampai or La Fraina chairs which both give you a run down to Armentarola. The alternative route (from Corvara, after the Borest 2-way) is to take the Boe gondola then a nice red down to the Cherz chair lift and then a blue to the Masarei lift which puts you above Armentarola. It's €6 for the taxi to Lagazuoi and €2 for the horse tow on the way back.
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There are many routes to get there - this is mine : Top of Dantercepies, ski down to Colfosco ; 'flat' chair to Corvara ; take the Costes da l'ega (29) chair ; take the drag on right Capanna neera (13) ; take nxt drag Pralongia 1 (14) ; ski down to the nxt chair Pralongia (15) ; ski down to Pralongia 2 (16) ; from the top you are now skiing down to Armentarola. At Armentarola you take a bus or taxi ; up the cable car to Laguzoi -- Hidden valley awaits Smile ---
The Horse Drag takes 5 to 7 mins, which isn't long, but can be a strain as you are concentrating on not falling and bringing everyone else down !!!!
you are now back at Armentarola ; Take the drag out of Armentarola, ski down to San Cassiano ; Bubble thingy out of San Cass ; ski down on the left to a spot where 3 lifts start ; take la branca chair (7) ; ski down a short way to the TOP of the Braia fraida (2) chair ( this is weird chair, as you have to get off half-way down !!) ; ski all the way down to Corvara ; get 'flat' chair back to Colfosco and make your way back to Dantercepies and Selva
Note - the lift numbers I have given may have changed.................................."
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deejaybee,
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andy wrote:
best or quickest?
dantercepies then the 2 way borest chair, then the chair kind of opposite, drop down the white path and go up col alt gondola, drop down, braia faida chair, then my memory goes a bit hazy, but i think one more chair (might be several options?) and you can get down to Armentarola. Get a bus/shared taxi there up to Lagazuoi, and go up that cable car. The run from there back towards Armentalrola is the Hidden Valley
Correct - at least two - the Ciampai or La Fraina chairs which both give you a run down to Armentarola. The alternative route (from Corvara, after the Borest 2-way) is the take the Boe gondola then a nice red down to the Cherz chair lift and then a blue to the Masarei lift which puts you above Armentarola. It's €6 for the taxi and €2 for the horse tow on the way back.
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I don't think there's much in it time wise,and both are nice: but I prefer the route Andy described, it just seemed slightly nicer/prettier
After all it is free
After all it is free
Hidden Valley is one direction only.
Access point is the Lagazuoi, cable car. The finishing point is Armentarola. The horse drag is from the end of the run inside the valley to somewhere before Armentarola. Both ends require a bit of walking.
If you are pressed with time get a taxi to Armentarola. The last bar is the taxi and bus stop. The system is a group of 5 joined together to call a cab otherwise the taxi will not come. From memory it is quite reasonable.
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saikee wrote:
Hidden Valley is one direction only.
Access point is the Lagazuoi, cable car. The finishing point is Armentarola. The horse drag is from the end of the run inside the valley to somewhere before Armentarola. Both ends require a bit of walking.
If you are pressed with time get a taxi to Armentarola. The last bar is the taxi and bus stop. The system is a group of 5 joined together to call a cab otherwise the taxi will not come. From memory it is quite reasonable.
Taxi from Capanna Alpina (the bottom of the Hidden Valley run) was same price as horse-tow (€2pp) when I did it last, you need a group to fill the taxi, but there was one waiting there. The taxi will drop you at the Hotel Armentarola which is a bit closer to the bottom of the drag at Armentarola, so less poling/walking involved than if you took the horse-tow...but nowhere near as much fun!!
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We took 1 hour from the taxi's at Armentarola to the top of Lagazuoi, the queues are well organised, and the cabin up takes around 70 people, but it will be busy. We had a coffee stop on the way, a meal in Scotoni, it was busy, we set off at 8.30, and were having a gluwhein in Jimmy's, just before Danterceppies lift at 3.45, we are 50 something intermediates, and have lots of photo's, so we didn't rush. It is an amazing days skiing, and we will be back and doing it in February.
This is taken from my ski performance which is available using your ski pass.
01 Costabello
02 Danterceppies A
03 Borest R
04 Costes da l Ega
05 Col Alto A
06 Braia Fraida A
07 Ciampai
08 Lagazuoi A
09 Armentarola
10 Piz Sorega A
11 La Brancia
12 Borest A
13 Sodlisia
14 Plans-Frara A
15 Val Setus
16 Cir A
We tried to repeat this at Xmas, but it was closed due to avalanches, maybe worth calling in on the Tourist Info before you set off if you have had any recent snowfall
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Thank you all very much, weather permitting we will be doing it tomorrow
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deejaybee wrote:
Thank you all very much, weather permitting we will be doing it tomorrow
Enjoy - forecast is good. If you have lunch at Scotonis you might have to wait a while for one of their famous grills - on Friday one of our group was told 40 minutes! On the other hand the spinach and ricotta ravioli was absolutely delicious...
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Well, deejaybee, hope you're back in Selva by now! How did it go?
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Apologies for resurrecting an old thread.
We’ll be second time Dolomites visitors in January, after I fell for the Sella Ronda last winter. I plan to ski Lagazuoi/Hidden Valley one day next January. This time we’ll be staying in Colfosco.
My question is what’s the quickest way to get to the Lagazuoi cable car from Colfosco? I envisage an early-ish start after breakfast.
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@Snow&skifan, The Borest lift mentioned above runs from Colfosco to Corvara so the route is the same from Borest onwards.
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@Snow&skifan, Follow @Bartezkis route from 03-07 and 08-13 on the way back. From Colfosco, you can either go via Borest to Corvara or a full circle of the Sella! I would, though, recommend Bioch over La Brancia on the way back TBH. They start beside one another and you have a long blue to Corvara from both but the ski from La Brancia (6) is very flat. 7 from Bioch was a red due to 1 steeper section near the top, that they have recontoured slightly to make it blue. I’d also treat myself to 15 then La Fraina off Braia Fraida rather than 14 to Ciampai on the way there. Slightly longer but a lovely track through trees. But that’s probably just me and not a big deal.
This question triggered a memory from our first ever trip to Selva earlier this year. We took a coach that Inghams laid on so I can't help with directions. But, before dropping us at the Lagazuoi cable car for the Hidden Valley, they did a detour to Cinque Torri. For me, that was the highlight of the day. The snow was great, it was almost totally deserted (unlike the very busy Hidden Valley), and the scenery was stunning, even by Dolomites standards.
If you can find a way to do both in the same day I don't think you'll regret it... and it might help mitigate the risk that you do the Hidden Valley and come away with a feeling that the trip was a lot of faff for something that is perhaps oh-so-slightly over-hyped...!
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Yep, +1 for including the Cinque Torre area in your day out over there.
This question triggered a memory from our first ever trip to Selva earlier this year. We took a coach that Inghams laid on so I can't help with directions. But, before dropping us at the Lagazuoi cable car for the Hidden Valley, they did a detour to Cinque Torri. For me, that was the highlight of the day. The snow was great, it was almost totally deserted (unlike the very busy Hidden Valley), and the scenery was stunning, even by Dolomites standards.
If you can find a way to do both in the same day I don't think you'll regret it... and it might help mitigate the risk that you do the Hidden Valley and come away with a feeling that the trip was a lot of faff for something that is perhaps oh-so-slightly over-hyped...!
Agree having done that pre covid it was worth doing with them and the rep was very good.
The disadvantage is that you end up on the HV when it is busy.
The horse tow really is not my thing.
We have done it ourselves from Arabba and you can be down HV before the crowds and bumps though we didn't do Cinque Torri that day.
Scotoni? not sure about bit like HV a bit over hyped.
Im sounding a bit of a grump? We have someone with us this winter who has not done it so happy to go again if they want to.
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Did you have a guy called Glyn (or maybe Glen)? If so, agree. I really liked him (and his wife). One of our party couldn't get over the non-stop commentary, but I found it pretty interesting and his passion for the area shone through amazingly. I thought he was a real asset to the firm.
After all it is free
After all it is free
An amazing run if the conditions are good and its not too busy.
Here is my video of it last Jan on a perfect bluesky freezing cold day and good snow . With hardly anyone there (although Scotonis was still busy!).
Reviewing it just now - I think I got the edit wrong near the frozen waterfalls...feels out of sequence.
It is a tricky run - seriously red in places - and very long with zero escape routes ... plus if busy - the red sections can be quite crowded and dangerous.
Don't take a nervous beginner !
I won't necessarily go back unless someone wants me to take them ... the taxi up plus often long queue for laguzoi and then the horse tow at the end all eat into skiing time too much and as said elsewhere - better places to eat than scotonis.
Definitely go to Cinque Torre though.
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I won't necessarily go back unless someone wants me to take them ... the taxi up plus often long queue for laguzoi and then the horse tow at the end all eat into skiing time too much and as said elsewhere - better places to eat than scotonis.
If you don't eat at Scotoni's then a bit further on past the frozen waterfall and the flat bit beyond that where you have to do a bit of poling is the Capanna Alpina restaurant which does good pizza and pasta dishes and is less crowded than Scottoni's. Also if you aren't bothered about doing the horse tow then you can get a taxi directly from the Capanna Alpina to the San Cassiano gondola (they normally require a minimum of 4 people in the taxi though).
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PeakyB wrote:
Yep, +1 for including the Cinque Torre area in your day out over there.
+2
Helpful info on the often blissfully quiet Super8 loop that includes Cinque Torri...
Might get a bit more traffic now as daytrippers from Cortina can access it using the new Cortina Express...even spotted Chemmy Alcott and Ed Leigh filming up there last January during the FIS World Cup week!
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Bus up passo Giau to Rifugio Fedare, chair lift to Rifugio Averau, make your way down to Passo Falzarego and onwards
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johnE wrote:
Bus up passo Giau to Rifugio Fedare, chair lift to Rifugio Averau, make your way down to Passo Falzarego and onwards
That sounds like the route from the Civetta ski area at Pescul??
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johnE wrote:
Bus up passo Giau to Rifugio Fedare, chair lift to Rifugio Averau, make your way down to Passo Falzarego and onwards
That's the route from Selva di Cadore
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MyKeg wrote:
johnE wrote:
Bus up passo Giau to Rifugio Fedare, chair lift to Rifugio Averau, make your way down to Passo Falzarego and onwards
That's the route from Selva di Cadore
Aha, yes, there are a lot of forests (Selvas) in the Dolomites
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