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| bobski62 wrote: |
@raino, Lac 1 is marked on the entrance as 1.95m so you should be fine.
@mullins, what's the total height of your van with box? |
Hi @bobski62, the height of Multivan with the roofbox is 2.35 metres.
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| mullins wrote: |
| 8th Feb is pre-French holidays ... |
That is the start of French holidays.
Maybe you can get a (paid) outside space.
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| rjs wrote: |
| mullins wrote: |
| 8th Feb is pre-French holidays ... |
That is the start of French holidays.
Maybe you can get a (paid) outside space. |
I thought the French school holidays were from 15th, but looks like you are correct...
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Hmmm, yes it will be tricky. There's no guarantee of a space on the right floor in Lavachet and other than that only Golf comes anywhere close to the height you need @mullins.
Might be worth giving the parking office a call to ask if outdoors ''en voirie" is possible; Les Brevieres outdoor parking also has no height restrictions.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Does anyone have any thoughts about Tignes 1800 for taking an early intermediate skiing in April? Both the MMV and the Kalindra have accommodation that would suit us as a reasonable price (and a lot cheaper than anything equivalent in Val Claret or Le Lac).
I know Tignes pretty well, but can't remember how difficult the red down to 1800 is. Obviously downloading is an option or catching the bus from Le Lac but I'm not sure a 15yo will like that option.
We're not worried about how quiet 1800 is. All we need is a supermarket and the Spar looks to be more than adequate.
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Both routes ito 1800 are red and this is a fair classification. For confident intermediates fine, but even they might have sketchy moments depending on conditions. The problem with both pistes is that they have a narrow steep section, in the evening when everyone is heading home they get busy and polished, and the sun's gone off by that time. Bus and downloading are perfectly viable options.
The Spar is very nice, really well stocked but a little pricey.
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Thoughts on Val Claret with a couple of youngsters in mid-late Jan?
We have kids 4 & 6, both good skiers for their age, 4yo almost parallel on blues, 6yo can ski parallel on easy blacks. We have flights to Geneva booked landing Jan 11th and a 2 week gap with no accommodation booked yet as we are commitment-phobes but the impending snowfall will pretty much lock in a base for most resorts in France.
We had been thinking about Tignes as a base because January is early and we figured the altitude means it's snow sure.
But I am worried about the cold for the kids, and also the lifts out of Val Claret are pretty long & high, there's not really any sheltered options in poor weather, it looks like almost every lift out of Val Claret deposits you up quite high. Great for mum & dad who are strong off-piste skiers but could be a bit exposed for young ones?
I am wondering if it might be a bit tricky if the weather doesn't play ball, and now that it looks like a decent snowfall is coming we could maybe consider a lower resort, but Tignes really looks like it ticks a lot of our boxes and is definitely where we would prefer to stay.
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| sugarmoma666 wrote: |
Does anyone have any thoughts about Tignes 1800 for taking an early intermediate skiing in April? Both the MMV and the Kalindra have accommodation that would suit us as a reasonable price (and a lot cheaper than anything equivalent in Val Claret or Le Lac).
I know Tignes pretty well, but can't remember how difficult the red down to 1800 is. Obviously downloading is an option or catching the bus from Le Lac but I'm not sure a 15yo will like that option.
We're not worried about how quiet 1800 is. All we need is a supermarket and the Spar looks to be more than adequate. |
The reds down those sections aren't excessively steep but as the other poster said, there are sections which are quite narrow and relatively steep which can get scraped and be icy in places, especially the lower non-shaded sections. Last time I remember one section being so scraped that it was pretty much impossible to ski over without hitting a rock or two (in early March).
That said, there are sections where it opens out which are nice and wide and quite enjoyable too.
It can very much depend on the quality of the snow. Early April might be pushing it.
I'm heading out to Val Claret on 4th January. Looks like the pistes should be in great condition after the dump over the next few days. Just hoping any warm up afterwards doesn't end up being too warm and wet (can't be worse than last year at least).
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@Chamwow, La Tania might be worth a look, sheltered green and blue runs, quick gondola up/down if needed and the whole 3V to explore! We based ourselves there for many years with our kids.
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@Chamwow, I wouldn't worry about the snow anywhere in the European alps this year for mid/late Jan. Whilst it's generally true that if anywhere is going to have snow it'll be Tignes/ValDiz/ValTh the fact is we already know that most of the resorts already have decent enough cover, and mid Jan is the run up to peak season.
Of the Tignes areas, Val Claret is probably the best choice - Three blues and a red back into the centre. However, all the blues do have some steepish sections - and depending on where you have skiied before you may not agree with some of the classifications. The top section of the green at Borsat is a classic, and would be red or black in many other resorts (yes I know there is a goat track to avoid it).
Personally, although I love Tignes, I wouldn't suggest going there with beginners. It's a huge area with an expensive lift pass and equally expensive on (and off) mountain restaurants. Beginners are highly unlikely to be able to be venture far from the runs immediately back into town. There are loads of other smaller resorts which I think would suit better - Places like Valmorel, Les Carroz. Go Tignes once the kids are both good enough to confidently ski reds all day.
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| sugarmoma666 wrote: |
Does anyone have any thoughts about Tignes 1800 for taking an early intermediate skiing in April? Both the MMV and the Kalindra have accommodation that would suit us as a reasonable price (and a lot cheaper than anything equivalent in Val Claret or Le Lac).
I know Tignes pretty well, but can't remember how difficult the red down to 1800 is. Obviously downloading is an option or catching the bus from Le Lac but I'm not sure a 15yo will like that option.
We're not worried about how quiet 1800 is. All we need is a supermarket and the Spar looks to be more than adequate. |
We stayed in the MMV January 2023. The red down should be fine. One or two steep sections. My 7 year old did it and was able for it start of the week. End of the week was icy and bare due to lack of snow and he preferred to lift down the bottom section end of the week...
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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@mullins, How was the MMV?
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@Chamwow,
What do you mean by 'exposed'? Lack of trees?
If your kids are discomforted by the cold then they are improperly dressed for the conditions.
Just book a good, Brit ski instructor to take your kids to where they can learn in comfort.
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You know it makes sense.
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@sugarmoma666 it was fine. We got a half board deal first week in Jan when French schools were back in school and my kids didn't go back until 2nd week. Food was decent without being spectacular.
We had an apartment type room. Was fine. They have a free snack for the kids (cookies, waffles, crepes, muffins) in the afternoon when we would come back from skiing.
We used the pool only once. It was around the time energy prices went very high, and the pool was very cold.
You can ski in, ski out from the boot room.
If you have lessons in Tignes you need to drive up or get a transport as the lifts only open at 9am from memory and lessons start at 9am.
Ski schools can be a bit brain dead. They told us there was only space for kids and no parents and expected us to send a 5 year old up to Tignes on his own until they received a sever bollicking...
edited to clarify
Last edited by You know it makes sense. on Sun 22-12-24 11:47; edited 1 time in total
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I've just booked an apartment in the Montana Village at half board through Crystal. Does anyone know how the evening meals work ie do we have set menus or an allowance of euros per person?
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Poster: A snowHead
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@Purplecat, Surely you'd be better to ask your question with regard to the evening meals directly with Crystal  !!
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Have just been in Tignes Le Lac for a week and parked in Lac 3. Just a heads up for anyone else doing this - we got charged twice! We booked a space on their app in advance for 105 euros for the week. We had a rental car from Geneva so when we picked up the car we added it as another vehicle on the app (having just booked using the number plate RENTAL CAR). When we arrived the machine spat a ticket at us and the screen said 'something something RESERVATION' and the barrier opened and we thought "ah ha! it has worked". Then when we left this morning we had to pay 158 euros to get out of the car park at the exit barrier. We tried talking to the person on the help button but she just said "you took a ticket so now you must pay those are the rules". She wouldn't take our invoice number or reservation details or anything, just point blank refused to help. Have lodged a complaint with them to try to get our money back and will take it up with our credit card company if necessary but just thought other people might find this useful...
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I'm just curious to know if @Ganni managed to get an indoor parking space.
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@ac840, wasn't the issue that you added the vehicle rather than amending the reg number on the original booking? I wouldn't hold my breath
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| holidayloverxx wrote: |
| @ac840, wasn't the issue that you added the vehicle rather than amending the reg number on the original booking? I wouldn't hold my breath |
They could still be pragmatic about it. they don't have to act the clowns...
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@mullins, they could, but....
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@mullins, how did you find Tignes 1800 in terms of amenities. I can see there is a Spar - does that do portions of hot meals to take away to heat up (lasagne etc.)? Is there any sort of takeaway, e.g. pizza?
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So we’re in the middle of a well-expected 75cm fall of snow. Carlines is the only non-nursery piste open today In the entirety of T-Vd’I. Explain to me why they were making snow yesterday?
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| how did you find Tignes 1800 in terms of amenities |
Very sparse I would expect. The Spar and a gift shop are about as good as it gets. Or am I wrong?
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| sugarmoma666 wrote: |
| @mullins, how did you find Tignes 1800 in terms of amenities. I can see there is a Spar - does that do portions of hot meals to take away to heat up (lasagne etc.)? Is there any sort of takeaway, e.g. pizza? |
We had half board in MMV so we weren't eating out. I can't remember tbh. I do remember being struck that it was very well stocked, but I believe my memories are twisted by the fact they were selling big, fat, juicy oysters.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| bobski62 wrote: |
Hmmm, yes it will be tricky. There's no guarantee of a space on the right floor in Lavachet and other than that only Golf comes anywhere close to the height you need @mullins.
Might be worth giving the parking office a call to ask if outdoors ''en voirie" is possible; Les Brevieres outdoor parking also has no height restrictions. |
I booked le Lavachet, and will try arrive early and get a higher floor. If I can't, I will remove roofbox and put it behind the van...
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@mountainaddict, We stayed in the Kalinda in about 2018. There is/was a popular bakery up the alleyway at the top of the magic carpet lifts, and a couple of bars on the snow front. I think the upstairs of these bars is also a restaurant or two, but we didn't go in there.
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You know it makes sense.
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| James the Last wrote: |
| So we’re in the middle of a well-expected 75cm fall of snow. Carlines is the only non-nursery piste open today In the entirety of T-Vd’I. Explain to me why they were making snow yesterday? |
Make hay whilst the sun is shining? (or rather, make snow when it is cold enough?)
Snowmaking consumes a lot of energy and water and they have to carefully manage the water storage over the season. No point in skimping out on snowmaking at the start of the season if we have a warm spell for say the whole of January or February, loads of snow melts and then temperatures are not consistently cold enough to make snow later in the season (and also there is more sunshine by then so man-made snow is even less efficient to make).
This study from 2020 says about the Isere region (so probably similar in the Savoie region):
From 1 November to 15 December, an underlayer of 30 cm of snowmaking (total amount of 150 kg m-2) is produced, if meteorological conditions allow, regardless of the snow cover during this period.
From 15 December to the end of February, snow is produced, if meteorological conditions allow, to maintain a total snow depth on the ski slopes of at least 60 cm.
After 1 March, no more snow is produced.
https://journals.openedition.org/rga/6742
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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| There is/was a popular bakery up the alleyway at the top of the magic carpet lifts, and a couple of bars on the snow front. I think the upstairs of these bars is also a restaurant or two, but we didn't go in there. |
Thanks @Judwin
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I will update the main parking post on page 1 @ac840; out of interest - when you made the original 'RENTAL CAR' booking, did you receive an email with a PIN code?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| bobski62 wrote: |
| I will update the main parking post on page 1 @ac840; out of interest - when you made the original 'RENTAL CAR' booking, did you receive an email with a PIN code? |
My reading of this was that they only found out at the end of the week, so had two tickets valid for the whole time, I'm guessing they might have been able to sort it out if they had gone to the Lac 3 office straight away.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| rjs wrote: |
| bobski62 wrote: |
| I will update the main parking post on page 1 @ac840; out of interest - when you made the original 'RENTAL CAR' booking, did you receive an email with a PIN code? |
My reading of this was that they only found out at the end of the week, so had two tickets valid for the whole time, I'm guessing they might have been able to sort it out if they had gone to the Lac 3 office straight away. |
I tend to agree with @rjs on this. They took a ticket which will register the new ticket to the reg...
"A votre arrivée au parking Lavachet, situé 262 chemin des roches rouges 73320-Tignes, présentez-vous devant la barrière. Ne prenez pas de ticket : l'accès se fait par reconnaissance de plaque d'immatriculation et la barrière s'ouvrira automatiquement«
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Yes, I think you and @rjs are on the right track @mullins.
Tignes car parks rely heavily on ANPR. If that doesn't work it's either because the car doesn't have a booking or its plate hasn't scanned properly.
In the case of the former, you take a ticket and you pays your money.
In the case of the latter, you scan your season pass or enter the code you got in your confirmation email - at least that's my understanding. But, to provide an accurate update on page 1, it would be really handy if @ac840 was able to confirm he got an email with a code.
Though come to think of it having just booked a place in Lavachet @mullins, wondering if you've received a code in your own email confirmation?
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@bobski62 seems to be 3 options to get access if you booked. I can't seem to see how to post pics/screenshots to show the redacted email...?
(i) If you have input your licence plate, the camera can recognise that and let you in.
(ii) they send you a 9 digit code in the email which you can enter to get in. The 9 digit code in the email and the app for the same booking are different (which is interesting)
(iii) they make a QR code available in the app. I cannot see the QR code in the email
They send 3 emails.
One of the emails states
"Useful information
How do I get into the car park?
This car park recognises your number plate and automatically opens the barrier, so you don't need a ticket.
If applicable: Remember to retrieve your emergency vehicle access code available in your customer area, on the app or on the website. In the event of a problem, press the ‘information’ button: do not take a ticket.
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So basically:
If you've booked, you get an access code to use in case ANPR fails.
If you've booked, on no account must you take a ticket on entry.
If you can't get in, press the button to speak to staff, and have your booking information to hand.
I'll update page 1 as per above.
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Any news on the Marais lift to start running?
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Any news on the Marais lift to start running?
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I wonder if that lift/sector remained closed today due to the 4/5 avalanche risk.
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Big slide in Le Fornet today down to the car park.... hopefully no-one seriously injured or worse...
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Having been hors de combat for 10 days, I have now been upgraded to “light duties excused boots”.
So here’s a look at the weather:
In resort, well that’s easy. 4 days of blue skies and sunshine with light winds and unseasonably mild temperatures. Which should make for trouble free transfers tomorrow except for the volume of traffic. I can’t access the figures on my phone, but there will be long queues irrespective of weather and fender benders.
Flying tomorrow is going to be trying - 3 letters darling F-O-G.
Let’s start with the easy bit - Newcastle and north will be drizzly but manageable.
South of that virtually all the airports are going to be foggy or have a chance of fog. Still flyable for most airports/aircraft equipment/crew qualifications but there are going to be salads as everything slows down, flow rates are reduced and some aircraft may be in the wrong place tonight. Hopefully LHR shouldn’t be as bad as the others as it only has a chance of thick fog but expect cancellations to reduce the flow rate. Standby your app folks.
The fog is already denser at most Uk airports than the forecasts, the afternoon clearances didn’t happen so it’s bad and likely in most cases to get worse unless the wind picks up - highly unlikely.
On the continent, Lyon is already foggy and forecast to stay so, but with 2 runways etc it should cope. Grenoble is forecasting a 40% chance of fog in the morning, but patches are already drifting around the valley so that could be challenging. Chambery might be high enough to remain above the fog and low cloud. But there may be some delaying to check the actual weather after the sun comes up, this might happen for Grenoble flights too. There might also be a few trips round the hold!
Geneva is showing a 30% chance of fog, if that happens expect long delays.
It could be a trying transfer day tomorrow, but when you get there it will be fab!
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