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@turms2, yes there has never been an issue using consecutive free days, but the question remains whether you still need to go to the ticket office each day
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@polo, yes you are right
I forgot to ask this. I must definitely clear this also
But i will do so early September
according to some other devisions and circumstances maybe i will decide against the season pass
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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At Verbier this season you had to show your season pass email every day and they would only issue a one day pass
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| doddsie wrote: |
| At Verbier this season you had to show your season pass email every day and they would only issue a one day pass |
Well that is the Opposite from what they wrote to me, however i do not doubt that it could be so if i go there....its a little bit insecure
btw with kids in a ski school this is a NO GO
UPDATE Well its not the Opposite...its simple not clear...consecutive yes, but they do not wrote if they give 5x1day or 1x5days
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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I went for a weekend and had to go to the ticket desk twice to show my PdS pass - though the second visit was done Saturday afternoon for Sunday ski, so no time lost in the morning.
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Well that’s the season done and a fine day out with @snoozeboy, a bit wet first thing then snow on the high lifts and drier after a coffee stop. High pistes in very good shape (Fornet bowl, top of Abricotine), lower a bit sticky. Looking forward to doing it all again next season
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| klanfa wrote: |
| I went for a weekend and had to go to the ticket desk twice to show my PdS pass - though the second visit was done Saturday afternoon for Sunday ski, so no time lost in the morning. |
I have to Check it. Even though i am Not Willing to go everyday for a week to Do so...for a weekend ok but for a week or two, nope...
Except that even i someone said in the email, yes its possible to have a 5days cars etc., its not a quarante...its possible to go there and another one said the opposite
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the answer from la rosiere : Hi, Thanks for your interest in La Rosière Ski resort. Upon presentation the Porte du Soleil QR code in the cash desk with its receipt, during the validity of date of your ski pass, bought at public price, you will benefit of your 5 days pass for the Espace San Bernardo. By the way, the Espace San Bernardo closed tonight at 5 PM. See you next time on the Espace San Bernardo slopes, Customer service
What exactly do they mean by "public price"?
Does that mean the flash sale is excluded? And what about the free kids pass?
Honestly, the option of the PDS Season Pass — just to use it except PDS and for two separate weeks in Verbier and La Rosière — seems to have too many unclear points. And to be honest, I'm not really willing to dig deeper into them... 
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@turms2, I think what they mean
Is that you can’t get a pass in exchange for a free PDS pass that staff etc may have. Many of my friends have skied San Bernado this season with the PDS flash sale pass. You’ll be fine with the bundle that you can purchase in September. It’s not that hard and a very good deal - probably best not to overthink or keep digging. I’ve only heard good things from PDS season ticket holders about this scheme.
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Not just free, but for example when I was in the ski school as a 'auxiliaire' instructor there was a special price, around chf430 IIRC, and I can well imagine there could be many other roles or functions that don't give a free one but do allow a substantial discount.
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| Ozboy wrote: |
@turms2, I think what they mean
Is that you can’t get a pass in exchange for a free PDS pass that staff etc may have. Many of my friends have skied San Bernado this season with the PDS flash sale pass. You’ll be fine with the bundle that you can purchase in September. It’s not that hard and a very good deal - probably best not to overthink or keep digging. I’ve only heard good things from PDS season ticket holders about this scheme. |
Hmm… I suppose you’re right about that. By "public rate" they probably mean the prices that’s easy to find or purchase—like the ones listed on their website, and not prices for instuctors etc.
Honestly, the PDS pass is probably the best option since it combines many resorts we are able to visit, even for one, two or few days. Its also the free ski pass for the kids...thats a big deal...however I’ll wait until September to see how things are going with my wife’s rehab, and I’ll decide around that time.
By the way, La Rosière mentioned about a "5-day pass", and Verbier said: “The free days can be used consecutively or non-consecutively.”
I’ll double-check that later, but I think it should be possible to get a 5-day pass all at once.
Have a great summer! Maybe we’ll see each other next year.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| doddsie wrote: |
| At Verbier this season you had to show your season pass email every day and they would only issue a one day pass |
After your first day if you go in at the end of the day (when there should be no q) I think they’ll give you one for the next day. Bit daft they won’t give you a multi day but at least it saves queueing
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i asked them both if a multi pass is possible. If not , i have to re-think this option....but however, there is enough time....there are some other priorities first
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You know it makes sense.
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| BobinCH wrote: |
| doddsie wrote: |
| At Verbier this season you had to show your season pass email every day and they would only issue a one day pass |
After your first day if you go in at the end of the day (when there should be no q) I think they’ll give you one for the next day. Bit daft they won’t give you a multi day but at least it saves queueing |
yes indeed , this is also an option. But i am not willing to do so for a week or more x 4 persons... Honestly, i do not understand why they do not want to give a multi day pass. But if its so, then ok...its take it or leave it , i suppose
i understand tha probably its not possible to have these days "preloaded" in the PDS Season Pass. But why they are not able to give a multi day pass (if its so) .... pfff.... 
UPDATE : do not know for La Rosiere, but in Verbier is what @doddsie mentioned....you have to go to Cash desk every day in order to take for every day a 1Day Skipass...
Dear Mr. XXXXXXXXXX,
Thank you for your message.
To receive the 5 free days, you will need to go to the ticket office each day to collect a day ski pass.
If you have any further questions, please do not hesitate to contact us.
Kind regards,
Mit freundlichen Grüssen,
Téléverbier SA - Case postale 419
CH - 1936 Verbier
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Avoriaz has extended its opening to 11 May albeit only for ski race training for local ski clubs and national team. Great endorsement of the snow surenesss at lower altitudes for this region.
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Poster: A snowHead
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As in the french national team are training there? That's mad
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| 8611 wrote: |
| As in the french national team are training there? That's mad |
Seems like it according to Le Messager. Why is it mad?
Cette semaine, les skieurs de l’équipe de France de descente et de slalom sont présents dans la station. Ainsi, on peut apercevoir Laura Gauché, Nils et Sam Alphand, Mathieu Bailet ou encore Maxence Muzaton, entre autres, dévaler les pistes parfaitement préparées pour l’occasion.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| Ozboy wrote: |
| Avoriaz has extended its opening to 11 May albeit only for ski race training for local ski clubs and national team. Great endorsement of the snow surenesss at lower altitudes for this region. |
running downhills on Super Morzine? 
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| 8611 wrote: |
| As in the french national team are training there? That's mad |
No better place for Clement Noel to work on his sharp slalom turns than The Stash ...
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Stash was closed last week, but the “Competition Piste” from the top of the plateau near Grand Combes arrival was in perfect nick, though not the sort of rock hard surface the racers seem to like.
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| franga wrote: |
| 8611 wrote: |
| As in the french national team are training there? That's mad |
No better place for Clement Noel to work on his sharp slalom turns than The Stash ... |
The man himself….
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Its great, I just thought they'd be higher and looking for cold snow this time of year
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We have a vested interest in this as we have just reserved a new-build apartment in Montriond - this makes for positive reading. Morzine in particular is continuing with the diversification theme which is very encouraging.
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Les Gets are merging Rosta chairlift and Grains d’Or chairlifts to be replaced by a single TSD8 which I think might be a vanity project as a 6 seater is more efficient to fill in a family resort.
The following are happening in Chatel this year:
- Replacing Linga with a TSD6 (work underway)
- Adding a second Magic Carpet to Super Chatel sector
- Replacing the 2nd batch of 1/3 of Super Chatel gondola cabins as part of a 3 year program (they are the black cabins that appeared this season)
- Building a 4 season toboggan ride in the Vonnes sector
Popularity of PDS remains strong despite a couple of dodgy seasons in the last 5 years. Our little corner of the alps does punch abouve its elevation for the amount of snowfall we receive. I visited 3 Valleys on 14 Appril and it was obvious that we have much better snow cover at the same elevations. Perhaps its our more northern latitude, better snow making, or local climatic conditions.
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@Ozboy,
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Our little corner of the alps does punch abouve its elevation for the amount of snowfall we receive
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I often find that your area gets better snow lower down than e.g. we do in Chamonix. Although, per 2 weeks ago, not always
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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@Ozboy, What we need to to replace some of the Chalet Neuf drags with chairs if they want to reduce the travel to PLJ.
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| Ozboy wrote: |
| 8611 wrote: |
| As in the french national team are training there? That's mad |
Seems like it according to Le Messager. Why is it mad?
Cette semaine, les skieurs de l’équipe de France de descente et de slalom sont présents dans la station. Ainsi, on peut apercevoir Laura Gauché, Nils et Sam Alphand, Mathieu Bailet ou encore Maxence Muzaton, entre autres, dévaler les pistes parfaitement préparées pour l’occasion. |
Some pictures of them training on Arare here. In previous years the Mont-Blanc region has run some fun races on the same slope later in May/June.
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You know it makes sense.
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@Ozboy, Agreed - an 8 seater seems over the top for Rosta. I've only ever seen 8 seaters in mega resorts in the busy intersections of the ski area.
Good to at least some some lift upgrades taking place, I visited LG/Morzine in Dec last year and noticed how lifts are lagging behind (old & slow) many other resorts of the same size.
It will be interesting to see if the Mt Chery bubble will be replaced with a Telemix style lift using the Grains D'or, so a mix of existing bubbles and chairs on the same line.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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| Matt1959 wrote: |
| @Ozboy, What we need to to replace some of the Chalet Neuf drags with chairs if they want to reduce the travel to PLJ. |
The proposal is to eventually replace all the drags between top of Chalet Neuf and Tour du Don with 2 chairs, each going up either side of the vallee. I believe there are issues around hat sector being a JV between Swiss PDS and Chatel as well as Swiss environmental restrictions.
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Poster: A snowHead
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@Ozboy, It's always a surprise when you go up there in summer and find that Switzerland starts much sooner than you think. Also surprising to see cars around Chalet Neuf!
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@Matt1959, I often ride my road bike up to the Col des Portes du Culet in summer. There is a tough and very quiet 20K route from Muraz in CH to the top which can makes a very scenic route Chatel > Morgins > Monthey > Muraz > Culet > Morgins > Chatel. https://www.cyclingcols.com/col/PortesDeCulet
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@Ozboy, I'm not a cyclist but I'll tell my son, he and his partner, both keen road cyclists, are out for weeks in June and July.
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| Ozboy wrote: |
Les Gets are merging Rosta chairlift and Grains d’Or chairlifts to be replaced by a single TSD8 which I think might be a vanity project as a 6 seater is more efficient to fill in a family resort.
The following are happening in Chatel this year:
- Replacing Linga with a TSD6 (work underway)
- Adding a second Magic Carpet to Super Chatel sector
- Replacing the 2nd batch of 1/3 of Super Chatel gondola cabins as part of a 3 year program (they are the black cabins that appeared this season)
- Building a 4 season toboggan ride in the Vonnes sector
Popularity of PDS remains strong despite a couple of dodgy seasons in the last 5 years. Our little corner of the alps does punch abouve its elevation for the amount of snowfall we receive. I visited 3 Valleys on 14 Appril and it was obvious that we have much better snow cover at the same elevations. Perhaps its our more northern latitude, better snow making, or local climatic conditions. |
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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The topography of most of the PdS (rolling hills, nothing particularly steep) is also a clear advantage when it comes to maintaining and developing a year-round offering ...
you only have to go to any of the main 3 valleys (particularly the Belleville and Meribel ones) in the 3Vs in the summer to understand why cycling and hiking are nowhere near as prominent as in Chatel, LG and Morzine. They are steep, V-shaped valleys ... I wouldn't want to be on a downhill MTB staring down from the top of La Masse or Tougnette.
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| franga wrote: |
The topography of most of the PdS (rolling hills, nothing particularly steep) is also a clear advantage when it comes to maintaining and developing a year-round offering ...
you only have to go to any of the main 3 valleys (particularly the Belleville and Meribel ones) in the 3Vs in the summer to understand why cycling and hiking are nowhere near as prominent as in Chatel, LG and Morzine. They are steep, V-shaped valleys ... I wouldn't want to be on a downhill MTB staring down from the top of La Masse or Tougnette. |
Very much applies for road biking as no need to climb 15kms to get home from the valley after a long ride.
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We are up the hill in La Chapelle D'Abondance. Not unknown for my son to cycle 100km but call for a lift up the final 1km .....
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| Ozboy wrote: |
| franga wrote: |
The topography of most of the PdS (rolling hills, nothing particularly steep) is also a clear advantage when it comes to maintaining and developing a year-round offering ...
you only have to go to any of the main 3 valleys (particularly the Belleville and Meribel ones) in the 3Vs in the summer to understand why cycling and hiking are nowhere near as prominent as in Chatel, LG and Morzine. They are steep, V-shaped valleys ... I wouldn't want to be on a downhill MTB staring down from the top of La Masse or Tougnette. |
Very much applies for road biking as no need to climb 15kms to get home from the valley after a long ride. |
Very true … I foolishly thought I’d attempt the Col de la Loze from Meribel Village 3 summers ago. I didn’t manage to get to the top of Meribel …
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| Matt1959 wrote: |
| We are up the hill in La Chapelle D'Abondance. Not unknown for my son to cycle 100km but call for a lift up the final 1km ..... |
I don't enjoy the climb from the valley road to Petit Chatel after a day out, particularly the last 100m at >10% to get in the parking!
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This is definitely a ridiculous question so my sincere apologies for daring to ask it … but it’s been bothering me all day : what is the “nipple” shaped peak that can be seen in the distance from most of the French sector?
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