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Was in La Ros this weekend, sunny but extremely windy and cold on the French side, pistes very hard and occasionally icy as you'd expect. Much better snow on the Italian side above ~1700ish, below that soft.
La Thulie was under a cloud cover all day Saturday but it cleared up today.
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Gustavo the Gaper wrote:
Are there specific forecast services you guys know are more reliable for (northern) Scandinavia?
I'm off to Lapland next week (Riksgränsen, Ylläs, Levi, Björkliden, Narvik etc) but the forecasts I've been seeing look rather inconsistent.


https://www.yr.no/en is Norwegian and is respected (I know kite-surfers in Ireland would use this one). I've used it the last 5/6 years and seems to work pretty well
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Watching and waiting on pulling the trigger for a 4 ski days anywhere in the next week or so. I can probably wait until Thursday to commit so hopefully that little snowfall has solidified on the forecast.
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Watching and waiting on pulling the trigger for a 4 ski days anywhere in the next week or so. I can probably wait until Thursday to commit so hopefully that little snowfall has solidified on the forecast.


Monte Rosa? https://wepowder.com/en/weblog/2025/03/02/sunny-and-increasingly-mild
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@afterski, Anywhere in the Aosta , La Thuile and Courmayeur have seen some of the best snow this winter , depths are good and will benefit from next Sunday/Mondays predicted precipitation.

Re Feb snowfall , La Plagne posted a total of 35cm for Feb but not as bad as 2023 which was just 3cm , the best they have seen was 1990 with over 3m
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Dry week ahead, then its looking promising for some snow the following week. Will all be a question of temperature and snow line. Heading to Aosta on 14th so I'm optimistic for reasonably good conditions.
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Yep both looking good this far out. Logistics is going to likely put me into ZRH as want to fly overnight to maximize ski time. Swiss only flies direct to ZRH not GVA. Other options are UAE based carriers but they are all day flights. Not that excited to fly Alitalia (or whatever it is called now!)

Hoping that the snow moves a bit north as heart was set on Grimentz as a scouting for holiday home mission. We shall see.

*I've just checked at there is a local budget airline overnight into Bergamo from here.
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Going to be in Tignes from 7th - 17th. Sounds like this week will be dry as a bone but there is reason to be cheerful about the prospect of fresh snow once out there?
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Back to watching this thread with interest - out to Les Arcs on 15th and some snow would be welcome before then. One of my boys is in AdH at the moment and says certainly in need of some fresh snow
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mullins wrote:
Gustavo the Gaper wrote:
Are there specific forecast services you guys know are more reliable for (northern) Scandinavia?
I'm off to Lapland next week (Riksgränsen, Ylläs, Levi, Björkliden, Narvik etc) but the forecasts I've been seeing look rather inconsistent.


https://www.yr.no/en is Norwegian and is respected (I know kite-surfers in Ireland would use this one). I've used it the last 5/6 years and seems to work pretty well


Great, huge thanks!
They seem to display snow forecasts in mm, but according to Google, 1mm of rain equals to about 1cm of snow. Is that more or less accurate?
I'm waxing and packing up tomorrow and was wondering whether to bring the piste-focused skis or the slightly wider ones... think I'll pick the latter and remain optimistic, they show a bit of fresh snow coming up in the resorts I'll visit.

Thank you!
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@Gustavo the Gaper, Depending on temperature 1cm of rain = 5-15cm of snow. (Which is why all new snow is not powder!!)
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@kebeliever101, Hope so, as I arrive on Friday, looks like a reasonable amount from Sun to Tuesday for the Haute Tatrentaise, with the weather system that comes in from the west as it might get stuck over the top of us. But it might be a bit soggy in the villages.
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GFS and ECM both starting to trend towards a week of sunshine and snow showers across the alps WC 10 March. Let’s see how that develops.

If it is still showing that by EOD Thursday then we can start thinking about where exactly may benefit from the ppn.
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A long dry spell for high Tarentaise, the exception might be the grand total of 2 inches of snow next Sunday.
https://charts.ecmwf.int/products/opencharts_meteogram?base_time=202503031200&epsgram=classical_15d&lat=45.496&lon=6.92463&station_name=Tignes
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How depressing
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EvieTee wrote:
How depressing


It can change.

Forecasts longer than a few days are notoriously fickle.
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Thanks Green Day. (Crosses fingers)
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EvieTee wrote:
How depressing


It WILL change.

Forecasts longer than a few days are notoriously fickle.


FIFY!

Looks to me like 10-15cm over Sunday and Monday at the moment, but there’s quite a lot of variation between the major models.
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@chocksaway,
I actually had to look up FIFY to see what it means (I’m so not cool)

As you say so much variability at the minute. Time will tell!!
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I am going out to the 3V 4th April - a couple of more weeks of dry before unprecedented Spring precipitation will suit me fine.

Well, one can only hope Laughing
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@Layne, there is an old saying in Russian and German, Hope Dies Last
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I am contemplating a quick visit to Tignes at the end of this month
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This mornings model updates for GFS and Euro are a bit more pessimistic on snowfall totals Sunday Monday.
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This mornings model updates for GFS and Euro are a bit more pessimistic on snowfall totals Sunday Monday.


Sad Sad Sad
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Still very pessimistic for the Tarentaise valley Sunday/ Monday apart from the Tignes/Val end . Only hope is the Foehn will stop at some point and the front swings through
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GFS looking better than ECM at the moment (even teasing a mini nordstau in 0z). Looks like the likeliest spots to get hit next week (in decreasing order):

1. Southern Alps especially Italian side
2. South & East Tyrol / Slovenia
3. Rest of Austria
4. Anything NW

Feels like Italy has had a good year this year
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@Le Grand Renard, Tricky to see how there will be a foehn wind blowing from the east as the precipitation is approaching from the west, there might be some warmish air from the south as the depression moves slowly from west to east.
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want Thurs - Sunday as sun please.......
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A couple of charts which dont give any optimism for a decent end to the season in the alps but perhaps head to Norway!



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Is the main desire for fresh snow so that off piste is good?

Or do the pistes also need fresh?
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@munich_irish, what does a snowfall anomaly of -4 mean?
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@munich_irish, what does a snowfall anomaly of -4 mean?


Get your bike out
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@munich_irish, what does a snowfall anomaly of -4 mean?


Indeed is it a variance of: mm, cm, meters, %age? kinda crucial!

The week starting 9th march is firming up to look decent for SW Alps, i.e. Via Lattea, Aosta Valley and surrounds
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@leggyblonde, if you want some context the article is https://www.severe-weather.eu/long-range-2/spring-2025-final-forecast-la-nina-weather-impact-europe-fa/ . As often discussed here these sort of "forecasts" only really give directions of travel rather than granular detail. Less snow doesnt = no snow. However in this case it certainly feels about right looking at the various shorter term forecasts there is little sign (currently!) of any significant precipitation in the alps.

@Astontech, I was in the Arlberg over the weekend and the piste skiing was generally good to excellent but the off piste completely skied out though plenty of mogul skiing if that's your thing. However given the high level of solar radiation paired with temperatures well above freezing forecast for this week the piste conditions are very likely (to put it mildly) to rapidly deteriorate. If there is going to be decent skiing at Easter more snow is going to be needed.
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Such a shame
I usually go in January but this year my youngest broke his leg cycling in October so we’ve had to defer to later trips.
In prior years Jan hasn’t been that great but late season has.
This year it looks like we are in for a warm dry end to the season. Crying or Very sad
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@munich_irish, what does a snowfall anomaly of -4 mean?


Get your bike out


Sadly yes, on the list to do the "spring service" this weekend
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20-40cm forecast in many places early next week. A bit far out for specifics but this event has been showing on the models for some time. No need for widespread doom and gloom!
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Agreed - latest GFS run isn't exactly dry..
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@munich_irish, what does a snowfall anomaly of -4 mean?


Indeed is it a variance of: mm, cm, meters, %age? kinda crucial!

The week starting 9th march is firming up to look decent for SW Alps, i.e. Via Lattea, Aosta Valley and surrounds


I’m new to this forecasting business and trying to learn from you guys.
If I look at Aosta Valley that’s about 30 miles from the Tarentaise so does that distance really result in that much difference in terms of snowfall? Lots of people saying no slow for Tarentaise so will it all just dump 30 miles short?
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