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The Arlberg Snow Report 2024/2025 (Dec 4th - April 22)

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@stanton, It really should be ski hobo's or even ski tramps - there's a t-shirt there somewhere.

A "hobo" is a person who travels and finds work. A "tramp" is someone who travels but mostly does not work. A "bum" is someone who neither travels nor works.
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@stanton speaking of which, are you working in the resort, are you commuting to the Arlberg or living there? Do you identity as a ski bum, or a local or what?
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@badatbetting, Forum rumour has it that he is actually Nigel from Nottingham Very Happy He is also restricted to one post a day for upsetting the powers that be!
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munich_irish wrote:
Nigel from Nottingham Very Happy He is also restricted to one post a day for upsetting the powers that be!


LOL .. I am not even English British or whatever and have never been to Nottingham. I went to once England when i was about 10 years old on a Dutch School Exchange Trip somewhere near the sea in South West but i forgot .. it was so long ago ....I have never been to England since then.

I did ask admin to lift the one post ban ...

Covid for example ..Down in Landeck it was well known some days (5-7days) before that something strange unusual was happening, people were falling seriously ill up in Ischgl and up the Apres Ski Huts in St.Anton also up in St Christoph.. The Moose closed down even before the official Lockdown. The rumours were rife .. I could of prewarned people to Get the F** Out of Town in mid March 2020..before the hammer came down.

https://viecer.univie.ac.at/en/projects-and-cooperations/austrian-corona-panel-project/corona-blog/corona-blog-beitraege/blog51/

I gave other examples more to do with critical Avalanche situations

but hey Im on One Post a Day !
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Arlberg Tunnel re.opened yesterday again after being closed since April 15th for renovations.. Was a massive project completed on time,

https://www.meinbezirk.at/landeck/c-lokales/arlbergtunnel-wurde-planmaessig-wieder-geoeffnet_a7022976


Yesterday I was in Stanzertal (down valley) checking on things... Up around Pettneu & St Anton could see the early Skibums (look like Scandinavians) arrivals roaming around Hotels looking for Jobs ..

Back in Basel now but Heading upto Ischgl on Thursday. (28th) Very Happy
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I still wanna know though, do you see yourself as a ski bum, or retired, or what?
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I still wanna know though, do you see yourself as a ski bum, or retired, or what?


Maybe just a ski blog bum.
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@Toadman, Very Happy
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munich_irish wrote:


Back in Basel now but Heading upto Ischgl on Thursday. (28th) Very Happy


On a side note, do you buy day passes when you go to ischgl? Or have you bought a Tirol ski pass on top of the Arlberg one?
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@badatbetting, @stanton only 'earns his turns' (he claims)
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Oh fair enough, I respect that but I much prefer being lazy and drunk
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@badatbetting, This might just suit you then.

I was just looking for something on google streetview in st anton, and noticed some streetview tracks on the piste.... now you can look around the winter pistes on streetview. I may never leave the bed again.
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@badatbetting, @stanton only 'earns his turns' (he claims)


The Only Way.... Very Happy

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Stop the Brutal Grooming...

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@stanton Great skiers these two.

nina did a great podcast with dave ryding on her you tube recently. - nina gigele - #19 Dave Ryding about finding flow: The key to skiing success
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Looks v pretty. How much of an issue is this rain forecast? How much skiing is at the town level Vs higher up?
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@badatbetting, Always impossible to predict at what level it will be rain or snow so would not put too much weight on the forecasts. Best that can be said is that there is very likely to be some precipitation over the next 24 hours, that might be rain in the village but will be snow higher up. In any case it is not likely to do any harm, the freeze / thaw process and even a small amount of rain helps to harden the base layer of snow for the season ahead. Likely to be more light precipitation over the next week.

For opening weekend I would guess (someone might have better info) that the runs on Galzig, into St Christoph and some on Kapall will be open, from the looks of the webcam the valley run past the Moose will be open and assume same at Nasserein, Rendl will not be (usually opens weekend before Christmas), Arlenmähder probably closed even if Valfagehr is open, no idea about Schindler very snow dependent (probably have to get hourly postbus if you want to get to Alpe Rauz). This is very much "pre season" for keen / local folk.
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Oh cool, so arguably a lil bit of rain is a good thing!

How busy do you think the slopes will be day 1? In 3V the first week was a complete ghost town last year
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Turning Colder for Season Opening

Thursday. During the day, heavy clouds will cause precipitation, with the snow line sinking below 1500m.

The weather system will then turn to north to northeast for the rest of the week, which will once again blow in cold air masses in our direction in early winter. Very Happy Very Happy

There are still quite large question marks about the longer term forecast. Everything depends on the exact position of the high-altitude low from Friday onwards and small changes have a big effect immediately !!!!

Anyway all looking good for opening day.... Folks ..For you Lift Riders ..Do not expect Full operations on day one (its midweek) Normally they crank up the Galzigbahn, Östhangbahn & Gampenbahn..St,Christophbahn.

All the opening season Skibum party's will be in full swing...

@badatbetting, It is a Ghost town early season (especially during the week) until Dec 20th.. Many Bar's & Restaurant's have more than just one rest day (Mondays & Tuesdays) !!!

Dec 8th is a religious Public Holiday which falls on a Sunday this year...so it is likely to be a quiet (no noise) closed evening ..

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Are Mondays and Tuesdays normally 'rest day's? Are there certain days of the week which are better for nightlife which I should be aware of?

Hopefully during the ghost town period I can get my face out there and hopefully blag some beer discounts... The discount card in 3V must have saved me thousands..
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@badatbetting
For opening weekend I would guess (someone might have better info) that the runs on Galzig, into St Christoph and some on Kapall will be open, from the looks of the webcam the valley run past the Moose will be open and assume same at Nasserein, Rendl will not be (usually opens weekend before Christmas), Arlenmähder probably closed even if Valfagehr is open, no idea about Schindler very snow dependent (probably have to get hourly postbus if you want to get to Alpe Rauz). This is very much "pre season" for keen / local folk.


Hi, my partner and I are booked on our first trip to St Anton on 13-16 Dec, staying in Zug. Is there any risk that the gondola out of Zug will not be open by that point?
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@schauspiele, Zug is near Lech rather than St Anton (though all are part of the Arlberg ski area). I know less about Lech but assume if Lech is open (plan is for the main lifts to open from next Wednesday) then the gondola from Zug will be. I cant see any chance that Madloch will be open though as it is normally after Christmas before it does unless exceptional early snow
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@schauspiele, Zug is near Lech rather than St Anton (though all are part of the Arlberg ski area). I know less about Lech but assume if Lech is open (plan is for the main lifts to open from next Wednesday) then the gondola from Zug will be. I cant see any chance that Madloch will be open though as it is normally after Christmas before it does unless exceptional early snow


Ah thank you, that's reassuring. Much appreciated. And yes sorry I keep using St Anton interchangeably to refer to all of Ski Arlberg!
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@badatbetting, Are you heading out for the season ? Nightlife changed since covid and brexit, but every night is busy, though choices are limited, maybe a bit quieter start and end of season. most places are now open 7 days a week, but one or two will close one day a week so all the staff get a day off. Beer discounts are available to staff in one or two places but it's really not that much cheaper than regular price, however anton for drinks is generally cheaper than 3v.
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@schauspiele, you will soon find out that it is indeed rather silly to refer to St.Anton. Lech is in another league. Very Happy (and charming Zug is officially part of Lech, not just 'near').


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Headed to Lech mid December. Any idea about opening dates for lifts over there? Will it connect to St Anton?
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@that_econ_prof, Lech will open it's first lifts on December 4, like most of Arlberg. Quite likely you will be able to ski from Lech to St.Anton mid-december, but getting back might only be until Zürs. The famous Madloch route (nrs. 170 and 173), connecting Zürs and Lech, in general stays closed before Christmas. There is a good skibus service between Zürs and Lech.
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@badatbetting, Are you heading out for the season ? Nightlife changed since covid and brexit, but every night is busy, though choices are limited, maybe a bit quieter start and end of season. most places are now open 7 days a week, but one or two will close one day a week so all the staff get a day off. Beer discounts are available to staff in one or two places but it's really not that much cheaper than regular price, however anton for drinks is generally cheaper than 3v.


Yep will be there the full season, I will disappear to Wales for a few days over Xmas however but besides that I'll be stumbling around. Hopefully can befriend some seasonnairres for pre's anyway
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@that_econ_prof, it is usually possible early season to get from Zürs to St Anton but going the other way is often more difficult as a couple of the key lifts are often closed ie Arlenmähder & Schindlergrat (one of these is needed to get from St Anton to the Flexenbahn for Zürs). Check before setting out. There are buses but few and far between prior to 14th December. After this date the lifts should be there plus a lot more buses. As noted above the Madloch run is likely to be closed as it relies on natural snow so needs a decent amount of snowfall to be skiable so likely to need to get shuttle bus back from Zürs though other direction should be fine via Rüfikopf cable car.
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In the next 48 hours, the Arlberg can look forward to more than 20 centimeters of snow (Bootdust).

Many people know by now that the Austrian Arlberg is a rather snow-sure place in the Alps.

This area often gets a lot of snow from both the north and west. This means that this year there has been snow in Lech am Arlberg (1450 meters) since November 12. That snow will most likely not disappear until well into March or April.

Back In 1974 it was even more extreme, when there was an uninterrupted snow cover from 26 September Very Happy Very Happy Very Happy

Tomorrow we will get snow from the north so the Arlberg will be in the front row again. Expect about 20-30 centimeters and the surrounding areas are also doing well.

By the Weekend It will also get warmer on the mountains, the [b[freeze line will rise to 2800m[/b] by Sunday.
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@stanton, are you running out of inspiration? This text comes straight from www.wintersport.nl
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(Patrick Baetz instagram reel)

Not often one gets to ski kandahar in these conditions. My mean side hopes he scratched those skis a lot Toofy Grin
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That has made me want to buy powder skis...

Ischgl looks great on their drone video, hopefully someone can post pictures of they're there this week!
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@badatbetting, If you have the money and luggage capacity why not have a pair of 'pure' powder skis (pure = 115+ and longer than your usual), but for the amount of days one uses them in a season i question whether it is worth it if one does not have the space. And the suckiest thing about St Anton is..... all easily lift accessable powder is tracked out within 2 or 3 hours, there are far too many good skiers and before you blink everything is tracked. It is unreal, go to a family resort and hardly anyone goes off the piste.... like going home after apres... the difference is staggering.
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@badatbetting, If you have the money and luggage capacity why not have a pair of 'pure' powder skis (pure = 115+ and longer than your usual), but for the amount of days one uses them in a season i question whether it is worth it if one does not have the space. And the suckiest thing about St Anton is..... all easily lift accessable powder is tracked out within 2 or 3 hours, there are far too many good skiers and before you blink everything is tracked. It is unreal, go to a family resort and hardly anyone goes off the piste.... like going home after apres... the difference is staggering.


Yes, often the best places to ski powder all day is at the family results where hardly anyone is skiing offpiste.
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hsdee wrote:
@badatbetting, If you have the money and luggage capacity why not have a pair of 'pure' powder skis (pure = 115+ and longer than your usual), but for the amount of days one uses them in a season i question whether it is worth it if one does not have the space. And the suckiest thing about St Anton is..... all easily lift accessable powder is tracked out within 2 or 3 hours, there are far too many good skiers and before you blink everything is tracked. It is unreal, go to a family resort and hardly anyone goes off the piste.... like going home after apres... the difference is staggering.


Yes, often the best places to ski powder all day is at the family results where hardly anyone is skiing offpiste.


Lets name names here please....
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My European precipitation radar shows dumping over CH and AT right now, don’t know if freezing or not.
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@Orange200, a look at the webcams suggests it is raining / sleeting in the village but snowing at Gampen (typical white out at Galzig but assume snowing there too as temperature is below freezing). Due to get a bit colder before the precipitation peters out later on.
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-1.2 C on the Oberlech webcam and snowing. Was warmer earlier with plenty of sleet.
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-1.2 C on the Oberlech webcam and snowing. Was warmer earlier with plenty of sleet.

it actually is already snowing in Lech
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Powder Skis .

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Snow accumulation about

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In Ischgl

Currently raining in town...

Whiteout skiing up on the hill...

Time to head over to the Kitzloch for a dose of Covid Very Happy ...

Off Air next few days..
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