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The canyons - never EVER want to see that place again (ooops i have friends that instruct there...oh well... they should change resorts)
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Summer holidays - no snow
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| The canyons - never EVER want to see that place again (ooops i have friends that instruct there...oh well... they should change resorts) |
Who is your friend who instructs there?
When were they skiing in the World Cup?
Just wondering, if I see them, I'll say hello.
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Definately. Do not go there. Its really awful. You'd hate it. Unfriendly, dull, poor scenery, too many Brits, begginers everywhere and simply nothing to challenge a good skier.
Try Meribel instead. Its great.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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My first thought was that I'd go back to anywhere I've been so far but then i thought about it properly. I'm never going to go back to :-
Andorra - too small, too cheap, too long transfer
Livingno - too long transfer and I remember it being all strung out along the road and it felt like I was skiing down a run getting chair up then back down to road shiuffle along to next slope - very boring
Alp- D'Huez - snow was incredibly bad which obviously limited enjoyment but skiing didn't seem very interesting or very long.
That said if anybody said ......and your free holidya is to any of the above I would be prepared to back down
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Alp- D'Huez - snow was incredibly bad which obviously limited enjoyment but skiing didn't seem very interesting or very long.
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With the exception of Europe's longest black run at 17km, I presume.
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is that called the Sarenne or something similar? I kept hoping to do it but it was closed the whole week.
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Yep the Sarenne, a few of us did it in Jan this year. More of a red really, but rated a black as once you get on there is no getting off. Last couple km's a bit flat and I'd advise boarders to avoid unless you like a walk.
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when we skiied the Sarenne it seemed to be busy with lots of bods struggling to get down it, some of whom looked like they were near beginners!
great place to stop for lunch to the right of the twisty flat bit through the trees at the end......
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ADH has 350 (reported) Kms of piste - strange that anyone would consider it short.  Just goes to show how subjective people's experiences are. I keep seeing posts saying "poor snow" or "bad weather" or not enough snow" etc. Those poor resorts - it might have been the only week in the season like that!
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brian
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easiski, I thought so too. Funnily enough the only really bad week I've had in the alps was in Verbier (apart from the last day which was bluebird powder but by God was it needed) but that's made me keen to go back to see what it should be like.
4Vs should be under an hour from the val d'A, so I'm hoping to get there for a day or 2 next season 
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A friend of ours who has took up skiing in more advanced years (late 50's plus),went to ADH and loved it. He's said for years he should go skiing, and never got round to it until last season. Now he's joined the ski bore corner at the squash club bar!!!
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You know it makes sense.
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ADH was my first skiing holiday. The weather was bad for several days with high winds and whiteouts (no fun for an absolute beginner) and a couple of times on the drag out from the sumptious Horizons d'Huez appartments I thought "why am I doing this, this aint fun". but - I persevered, the instructor was a laugh ("ven i raise my leg" - as he was lifting his arm) and after 15years I guess I'm hooked. At the end of the week I could "ski", deep joy! Would like to go back there at some stage.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Poster: A snowHead
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You only have to look to the pic and see so many possiblilties... As with all these places sometimes you need someone to point the obvious and the not so obvious but just a glance at ADH's map should ring a few nice alarm bells, I'd have thought.
If/when I'm down that way again, I'll want another look, for sure. Think huge bowl...???
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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brian, Funny you should say that. I've only been to Verbier once and we didn't ski until the last day with a mixture of flu in the family and nil visibility for the whole week. It wouldn't stop me going back though - these conditions are always aberrant (one would hope!)
Nick L, Surely you must have expected Canada to be very cold? It's very well known in the ski world that all Canadian instructors have extra training in frostbite. Mont Tremblant is where most of the Canadian WC skiers come from, so their training progamme is clearly fantastic. Not that that necessarily means a good holiday though! 
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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You only have to look to the pic and see so many possiblilties... As with all these places sometimes you need someone to point the obvious and the not so obvious but just a glance at ADH's map should ring a few nice alarm bells, I'd have thought.
If/when I'm down that way again, I'll want another look, for sure. Think huge bowl...??? |
Think huge south facing bowl.
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six months after booking somewhere else and six weeks before we were due to go, because of "insufficient demand" for our resort of choice.
There was NO snow in Auffach or the surrounding villages of Neiderau and Oberau, the nearest ski-able area was a three hour bus ride each way.
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sounds grim Madaboutsnow, . A good advert for not booking in advance unless forced to do so. Was there any snow in your "resort of choice" at the time? Can TOs get away with that? If you are determined to go to a particular place, and specify in writing when you take the holiday that the location is "of the essence of the contract" would that stop them changing locations? Did you have the opportunity to cancel without penalties? I suppose that hope springs eternal, and you prayed for snow for six weeks?
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| JT wrote: |
You only have to look to the pic and see so many possiblilties... As with all these places sometimes you need someone to point the obvious and the not so obvious but just a glance at ADH's map should ring a few nice alarm bells, I'd have thought.
If/when I'm down that way again, I'll want another look, for sure. Think huge bowl...??? |
Think huge south facing bowl. |
which is full of people who don't open their eyes wide enough to notice that you can ski runs of all orientations from the pic blanc and most of the good stuff off the Dome des Petits Rousses is north facing
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Had I know then what I know now, about independent chalets and hotels, and had the 'no frills' type of flights been around, it would have been a lot easier.
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Yes, all those factors should mean people being less dependent on the TOs, and feeling less pressured to book in advance.
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Alpe d’huez – our first experience of France. Filthy public toilets that you have to pay for, very ugly resort, litter in the streets, shabby hotel, expensive mountain food, even more expensive drinks, no hands-free lift pass - have to show photo pass at every lift (though the actual linking system is good) so sticking to Austria and Italy in future!
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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sharon1953, why limit yourself to Europe? 
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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For a beginner definitely don't go to Schladming. The nursery area was solid ice. After that the only blue run you could access meant going down a red first to pick up another lift up to the start of the blue. It didn't put me off but it was a terrible first ski holiday.
Val 
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Wear The Fox Hat, It's more a case of the bank limiting us!!!!
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You know it makes sense.
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sharon1953, You should not think all of France is like one place. There are small, quaint resorts here too. I personally don't like the ambiance of ADH, but following Arno's info am really hoping to ski some of their good off piste next year. You can't blame the resort of the country for a shabby hotel, surely???? Austria is cleaner though!! 
Val, It might have been icy everywhere that week, you can't assume it will always be icy because it was the time you went - poor Shladming.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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even I, as a lover of ADH's skiing, would rather stay in Vaujany than ADH itself
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Poster: A snowHead
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sharon1953, hop over the Col du Lauteret to Serre Chevalier next time you come to France. Pretty mountain villages where real people live all year round, clean streets, and a hands-free lift pass. No contest really. Don't discard France without trying elsewhere. I could say the same about some other places we;ve been too, but it's not fair to generalise.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Helen Beaumont, I realise that, but others in the hotel that ski in France all the time thought it was fantastic, with no complaints about prices or standards, so that leaves one thinking this was pretty average!!!
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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sharon1953, We don't have hands free liftpasses either, but as you only have to show your pass at the bottom, then it isn't an issue at all. Certainly I've seen nice hotels around here and other French resorts, but you should really compare like for like. I can understand your reasoning, but the view of others is not reliable either. Go and stay in Helen Beaumont,'s apartment when the pool's finished and then see! Otherwise ask Snowheads who is good, or even stay again in ADH at Katski's chalet, or ......
I can't say about their mountain prices over there, here a cafe au lait is around 2.5 -3 euros with only one mountain restaurant a bit more, all of which is less than 50cents more than Grenoble. Seems fair to me.
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sharon1953, check out the website for the views!!! Prices are similar to what Easiski says. The pool is finsihed before the winter, and it's 200m to the slopes. Theres a new hotel going up at the foot of the slopes next season too, and the buildings at the bottom are being replaced. No litter in the village either.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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thanks for advice, will give it some thought if we get a last minute TO deal, but we can fly to Salzburg from Manchester for £17.00, (was £9.00 when bookings first opened) so DIY is so simple to the resorts, and Austria will always hold a special place in our hearts as we have never had a bad holiday there, even when the snow hasn't been so great.
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sharon1953, DIY is so simple to France too!!!!
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Don't know why people hate glencoe so much. I have only been once and it was in march of this year after they had 4 feet of snow, I thought it ha its own unique charm if quite small compared with glenshee. I really don't like glenshee though, seems to have the worst snow cover in scotland and surely the worst and slowest uplift. Plus theres that road up to it.
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Edmundh009,
Glenshee can be loaded when Glencoe is bare and vice versa. I've had fantastic days at both, you just have to select carefully on conditions and weather ...
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Holland !
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provenjohn, I loved Holland when I went there - but it was a long time ago.
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FAQ
No compensation for such a rubbish week though 
