 Poster: A snowHead
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As the person who started this thread I have watched the comments with interest and had no idea what I was stirring up! I wasn't looking for sympathy possibly just hoping that by publically expressing my disappointment I could get over it and accept that life had changed? Yes I have enough money to buy a veteran season pass, it will not stop me skiing 3V this winter.
I just feel that something has been 'stolen' from me. Almost that I have been part of an on-going 'contract' with 3V. Since 1990 when I first skied there I have only missed 2 winters and one of those was during covid when it wasn't permitted. One of my friends pointed out the free passes back in 1990 as he was about to qualify - it was from 62 in those days. They have hung this carrot infront of me each time I bought a pass and then 10 weeks before the payout they have torn up the deal. I'm not sure if its better or worse that Mrmogulski has had his 'payout' for the last 2 seasons.
So if you are skiing 3V, especially Meribel, this winter do come and ski with us. I will post the dates on the relevant page when I am not doing childcare to allow family members to work.
Also will possibly sneak along to Tignes for a few free days there before that is gone too.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@mogulski, it was the same for people who were 61 in 1990. But I'm glad I'm old now, not then.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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I find this topic a bit odd but actually quite revealing (about humanity, not the OP!).
Where I ski, you have to pay FULL PRICE when you become 15 and yet some people think the elderly should pay less than 25%.
Given that we know younger people are struggling to afford skiing (its OK when parents are paying but when young people get into their 20s a lot stopping skiing because of the cost) should lift companies really be maying it even cheaper than 75% off for elderly skiers or focus on making some offers to the young?
Of course a lot of the sentiment around this is because arrangements were even more generous to the elderly in the past. This issue of LOSS AVERSION is really important in human behaviour - people feel the pain of losing something more than they feel the pleasure of gaining the same thing. It is one of the things that makes sensible change so difficult to pull off.
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| jedster wrote: |
Where I ski, you have to pay FULL PRICE when you become 15 and yet some people think the elderly should pay less than 25%.
Given that we know younger people are struggling to afford skiing (its OK when parents are paying but when young people get into their 20s a lot stopping skiing because of the cost) should lift companies really be maying it even cheaper than 75% off for elderly skiers or focus on making some offers to the young?
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I've often thought the same - forgetting the rights & wrong, from a commercial perspective, it would be interesting to know how much they think about this. There's a lot of talk from an acquisition perspective i.e get them skiing young and they'll get hooked. But how much focus on the retention of skiers in their early 20's. I know quite a few examples from my past, where friends skiied with their parents as kids but then gave it up as they hit their 20's as they could only afford a summer or winter holiday (of which summer generally won out). They often came back to it in their 30's - but generally had about 10 years out. The same pattern seems to be repeating itself amongst my nieces and nephews (all in the early 20's).
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| Out of interest, have you renounced your state pension? |
Why would anyone? The state pension is not a "concession" like a free lift pass or reduced admission cost to a museum - rather something which people have paid into/funded with a lifetime of contributions. Hence those who have not made enough contributions receiving less than full state pension.
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| Handy Turnip wrote: |
| But how much focus on the retention of skiers in their early 20's. I know quite a few examples from my past, where friends skiied with their parents as kids but then gave it up as they hit their 20's as they could only afford a summer or winter holiday (of which summer generally won out). They often came back to it in their 30's - but generally had about 10 years out. The same pattern seems to be repeating itself amongst my nieces and nephews (all in the early 20's). |
I was exactly the same. Skied up to and including Uni then had a 5 year gap when I started work. In fact was only moving to a new place within reach of a couple of dryslopes and thus starting snowboarding brought me back. That and a subsequent gateway bargain trip to Banff which got me hooked on quality snow.
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I had seen that we could get free Meribel valley passes but we cannot stay there for 9 weeks over the winter season and not ski the whole 3V. We will just pay up for the 3V pass.
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