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The Arlberg Snow Report 2023/2024 (Dec 1 - April 14 tbd??? )

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Thanks for tuning in last season ...the best of last season was left until the end ... Lets hope for a Mega Early Season Dump ....



The lifts have been still for nearly 3 days so its about time to start thinking about the 2023/2024 season Happy

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Albona 1 New Gondola

Already underway ..They have snow cleared the access to the construction sites .. New Pylons & new Mountain Station adjacent to the Albona Resturant..

THe old chairs are piled up in the Stuben Car Park .. Excavations at the base are already at at an advanced stage ...

https://www.facebook.com/100057504757554/videos/762077552208857

https://www.melzer-hopfner.at/8eub-albona-i/


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Prices

Folks you should brce yourselves for some significant price hikes (Accomodations etc)

THere is a discussion over here on the Dutch Forum some posters are reporting 30% increases

https://www.wintersport.nl/forum/topic/529479

Probably to pay for makeovers like this one at the Hotel Post!!

https://www.facebook.com/photo?fbid=610489811110129&set=a.554313593394418

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Price Increases

Here you go Folks...

St. Anton Tourist Association has held a außerordentlichen Generalversammlung (Extraordinary General Meeting) and wants to increase the Tourist tax from €3 to €5 pernight ... They say to pay for new proects like the Ski World Championships ..

but also increase the compulsory contribution of the more than 1,300 member companies (this will be all the accomodations, restuarants, shops, Bars etc)

If aproved St Anton will have the Highest Tourist Tax in The Tirol

https://tirol.orf.at/stories/3208324/
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Einreichung 10MGD Rifflbahn I Submission (10 Person Gondola) replacement for Riffel 1

This is probably going to go where the orignal plans for Kappl connection (but not over to Monfontal) Lower Valley station somewhere near Rossfall then upto the Riffelscharte... They done already done all the scoping, surveys & plans for this back pre 2009

http://www.atelier-gstrein.at/referenzen.php
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@stanton, are you suggesting the base station will be further south(?) towards the Rossfall?

I take it that the gondola will replace Riffelbahn 1 & 2, presumably with a mid-station?

Any info on the timeline for this project?
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@ulmerhutte, Probably starts around Maas bottom station.
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@ulmerhutte, @Markymark29,

THe original plans for the Kappl link was for a Gondola Station lower down in the Roßfall (expansion area) with new feeder Pistes ....taking roughly same Traject as Riffel 1

I cant see them putting a Gondola upto Riffelscharte ... This terrain is for advanced & experts it would not justify the costs for a limited amount of passengers ...

So therefore Riffel 2 would just remain as it is now...

Placing the station at Mass would just funnel everyone down to the same point ..

Maybe there doing this in the hope that one day obections to the Kappl link will go away .... so the link up will be quicker to construct..

Lets not destroy Rendl.

Lets hope it NEVER happens !!!
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stanton wrote:


Maybe there doing this in the hope that one day obections to the Kappl link will go away .... so the link up will be quicker to construct.



You know, I wondered the same thing when I saw it is planned to be a 10-seater gondola. It seemed like serious overkill just to replace Riffel 1 & maybe 2. A 4-seater detachable would probably do the job easily, but if you are going to build it, then perhaps allow for future growth and make it a 6-seater. I assume the cost difference would not be that great.
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@ulmerhutte, I get fed up taking my skis off all the time to jump on gondolas - Zug, Schindler, Albona, all backward steps in my view - spoiling the enjoyment of being outdoors and having to sit facing folks I don’t know rather than looking at the scenery. I know it’s all about maximum uplift/ hour etc for the ABBAG company but it’s getting away from what I really like….progress eh?! Hope it never happens at Hinterrendl.
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Especially for you@Markymark29, there is a "hybrid" lift at Lenk/Adelboden.
Gondolas and 6person chairs on the same rope. You select how you want to travel and take the appropriate access through the turnstiles.
On the whole I think I generally go for the chair.
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10 person gondolas are the current go-to lifts. I think because they are the optimum balance between capacity, efficient loading and future proof all abilities access. I think some of the newest gondolas can even run without any staff !
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@Markymark29, I think gondolas have their place, eg Flexenbahn, Auenfeldjet, Galzigbahn, and Rendlbahn. Possibly also Nassereinbahn. IMHO they are appropriate where there is a long lift run, bi-directional travel is common, and high volumes.

I too prefer chairs on shorter rides - much less messing about with not having to remove skis. Loading is less fraught, ie you don’t have people trying shove their way through a gondola door. Finally, a covered chair is best the of both worlds, ie hood up on nice days and enjoy the sunshine, hood down when the weather is brutal.
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@ulmerhutte, yeah, no problem with main uplift gondolas, they do a great job. Not much point my disliking the ones replacing chairs on the hill to be fair, they’re there to stay!
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AnsbacherHütte (Flirsch) renovations underway ... Still buried in Snow...


http://youtube.com/v/I1yqaHu5zKE

https://www.ansbacherhuette.at/

History Lesson


http://youtube.com/v/7ZzfuPIhmaM
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@Rogerdodger, no need to go to Lenk, there is a "combibahn" @Arlberg too. (Auenfeld-Weibermahd) in Lech.
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@Langerzug, impressive technology that lift system
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