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Has anyone used ESF in Val thorens (or other resort) for 3-4 year olds? I have always had this perception that they are not great but wondering if anyone has any experience, especially for an English speaking child who doesn’t know any French.
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My daughter, at 4, had ski lessons in Austria. the very "baby" class was really too baby (she complained about having to ski under little Mickey Mouse things) but the instructor did speak English. They were happy to promote her the next class but we were warned that the instructor spoke no English. She was very sweet, and a good instructor, but Alex did complain that "German always sounds cross". She managed fine, though. At that age they don't seem to converse much, just follow-my-leader and get on with it. I suspect that provided she's generally OK with nursery or similar and not too clingy, your child will be fine too.
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@Elsie80, Not used the ESF in Val T but both my kids went through ESF in Ste Foy from start to finish and it was always excellent . Let’s face it most of the instructors in the other ski schools always started off in the ESF and I think it’s always down to the individual instructors rather than the ski school equally the parents positivity and children’s behaviour is a factor , but that’s another rabbit hole .
If your child is comfortable it will be fine and yes they will speak English . Where I’m mostly in Ste Foy there is always loads of parents dropping their kids off so it can’t be that bad .

ESF in my opinion gets lots of undeserved bad press .
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@Rob Mackley, +1. Always very impressed by ESF.

I made the mistake of trying evo2 for my kids once. Nice instructors but very different style of teaching, kids did about half as much skiing as esf and a lot more hot chocolate drinking. Might suit some, but mine were bored to tears.
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pam w wrote:
My daughter, at 4, had ski lessons in Austria. the very "baby" class was really too baby (she complained about having to ski under little Mickey Mouse things)...


This just shows how personal these things are. My now 19 year old youngest daughter loved her first week of "lessons" with Evo2 aged 4, which involved mainly wrestling in the snow with her fellow 4 year olds, falling off drag lifts and ringing a bell at the start of a run, just before falling over. Her older sister never really truly enjoyed lessons as a youngster (*) as she wanted to ski with her parents as soon as she could do a snowplough turn.

(*) The exception to this as a small child was when in Saas Fee aged 9, when the instructor was English. For her, a native English speaking instructor trumped everything. Once at high school, she was happy with the "follow me" approach in the face of any language issues, particularly where moguls and routes through trees were involved!

Feedback from teachers suggests that an upbeat attitude from the kids goes a very long way. My pair are naturally cheerful types, and always got on well with instructors.


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@The Flying Snowplough, my daughter was fine once she could have a go at the easy draglift and snowploughing down and falling over - but she did get VERY bored in the little garden the first day, just shuffling round essentially on the flat.
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we used Prosneige (Instead of ESF) in Les Menuires and they were lovely. small classes, great english. my 4 year old loved it.
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