Lange making some interesting claims about their new boot, really pulled out all the bells and whistles with their (very weird) product launch.
I'm curious what someone with a better understanding of how Ski Boots work thinks of them? Is this really something significantly new or just marketing?
@menatarms, why? my ankle only has one hinge point?
Plus ... if it's that clever why isn't it (and the new canting, & no-one I've ever met ever uses "canting", it's at best a comfort feature) on the race range? If really worth it, it'llbe on the plug boots.
=> marketing puff for the punters.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
well they had to do something given the BOA outbreak at Salomon...
@menatarms, why? my ankle only has one hinge point?
Plus ... if it's that clever why isn't it (and the new canting, & no-one I've ever met ever uses "canting", it's at best a comfort feature) on the race range? If really worth it, it'llbe on the plug boots.
=> marketing puff for the punters.
The 2nd hinge was for leverage into the heel I think. Yeah fair point that it's not on the race range, seems odd if it really was that revolutionary.
Then you can post your own questions or snow reports...
Then you can post your own questions or snow reports...
valais2 wrote:
well they had to do something given the BOA outbreak at Salomon...
look......SQUIRREL!!!
Think K2 have done it too. Is it just me or is the BOA instead of the lower 2 buckles just not a big deal? You can't have a set tightness like you can with a buckle, you have to work it out every time. Also the lower 2 buckles for me aren't hard to put on, it's the upper 2 that are always a pain in the back bottom.
After all it is free
After all it is free
@menatarms, ...yes you are right, they have. And they has relaunched Full Tilt in a pretty unmodified form too (thank goodness, I can now get some spare parts again....)
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seems that there are a lot of ski boot engineers on this forum
have any of you actually skied it? or even put your foot in it ?
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Ski Essentials have just done a long review of the new salomon BOA boot, very interesting to hear a bootfitter really go into depth about it. Certainly seems like BOA on skiboots is here to stay.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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under a new name wrote:
@menatarms, why? my ankle only has one hinge point?
=> marketing puff for the punters.
Initially that would seem to be the obvious thing. However if that was the case why would something like heel lift ever happen? Ie the biomechanics of you foot/leg in a boot when skiing seem a bit more complicated than just a simple single pivot.
I think the bike suspension analogy is a good one. You could just have a single pivot (and there are some who like a particular bike brand who would advocate for this! ), but most are multi pivot designs because it gives the engineer more control over how the suspension moves through its travel
I'm quite intrigued about these (more so than Boa), shame they haven't make an xt version (yet), and possibly even more benefits for walking.
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So if you're just off somewhere snowy come back and post a snow report of your own and we'll all love you very much
stuarth wrote:
under a new name wrote:
@menatarms, why? my ankle only has one hinge point?
=> marketing puff for the punters.
Initially that would seem to be the obvious thing. However if that was the case why would something like heel lift ever happen? Ie the biomechanics of you foot/leg in a boot when skiing seem a bit more complicated than just a simple single pivot point.
I think the bike suspension analogy is a good one. You could just have a single pivot (and there are some who like a particular brand who would advocate for this! ), but most are multi pivot designs because it gives the engineer more control over how the suspension moves through its travel
I'm quite intrigued about these (more so than Boa), shame they haven't make an xt version (yet), and possibly even more benefits for walking.
I would imagine soon we'll see a combination of BOA and this double pivot if it lives upto the marketing. I mean from a physics perspective the longer lever and double pivot do seem to make sense for driving more power into the ski. I guess a lot of people won't take them seriously unless they're seen on race boots though, which is fair enough I guess. I'm looking for a fairly precise, stiff boot for next year at the moment, not sure any of the new technology 2024 boots are ticking the box other than maybe the new Fischers.
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), but most are multi pivot designs because it gives the engineer more control over how the suspension moves through its travel
