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Ruptured ACL 18.1.23 - Rehab

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My "goals" are (off piste) alpine & touring skiing (say, 80 days a season?), nordic skate skiing (15-20 outings), golf, tennis, trail running (3-4 days a week?)


Blimey, the only things you need to add onto that list are competing in knee sliding competitions at weddings with 6 year olds and not paying back loans from mobsters to complete your "Things which are bad for your knees" list
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@abc, ha ha, too true
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@Richard_Sideways, I think that is just normal for an alpine resident? Non?
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@HammondR, but I'm loving one quote from a surgeon,

"who coined the phrase…”there are two types of skiers in the world. Those that have blown their ACL and those that will.”" Shocked


ok, nonsense....but exactly the same told me a doctor about 5 x 5 Football....

adults usually over 35 y old, after marriage kids etc, with many kg around the belly, decide to play football and they think that they are so good as Slatan Ibrahimovic in his 38, or so young as they were in School....usually they start to playing withoug warming up, sometimes agressive etc

The doc (specialised in Knee OPs) told me "everytime a new 5 x 5 field comes round the corner, i book for the next summer a two week holiday in Maldives"...
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@turms2, I can well believe that!
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Jonathan Bell wrote:


2) the other situation that is a problem is landing from even a modest height. So walkers may give way jumping off a style and of course netball and basket ball are notoriously troublesome for an ACL deficient knee. Once again being able to predict the landing can help such that the knee is at highest risk when the landing cant be seen or you are bumped off line in the air by an opponent.



Before I had my ACL recon my biggest problem (beside knee swelling after skiing /activity) was occasionally collapsing in stepping down onto train platform. Not a good look being a sweary heap at commuter time.
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This evening at the pub quiz, my friend revealed that she is skiing on 22yr old skis and bindings Shocked I asked if these were the ones she was using a year or so ago when she blew her ACL. Apparently so. I wonder if these two things might be at all related Puzzled Either way, we told her she needs new skis.

(She is skiing fine this season after her reconstruction at the time of the accident.)
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@Scarlet, unless the bindings are ones which allow release from the heel from a twist direction then they dont protect the ACL.

I have knee bindings and another snowhead was posting about another make offering similar to protect against that.
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@Scarlet,

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@NickyJ, I didn't release and didn't feel any "I should be releasing" moments ...
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@NickyJ, That wasn't really my query, more could the bindings have failed to release due to age? I haven't seen the skis, so I don't know anything about them other than she's had them since forever.
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@Scarlet, very definitely! and skis are a wee bit improved ...
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skis are a wee bit improved ...


22 years ago I'd only.just got my first pair of carvers, and they weren't very carvery then! Skis have improved/changed massively in that time frame.
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Following meniscous surgery back in July I was worried about how it might impact my long ski weekend in Hintertux this January, I needn't have worried, the knee was a dream!!

I did however end up spending a week in Scweiz public hospital having punctured a lung and with 8 badly displaced broken posterior ribs, 5 of which have been broken in multiple places creating a flail segment rolling eyes

High speed head on collision with a man made snow ridge at what I thought was a continuation of the piste.

Now awaiting fixation surgery and wondering how it will impact next year's ski trip Laughing
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A friend snapped their cruciate ligament while skiing some years ago (10-15?). Never had it repaired. Still skis 1-2 weeks a year (with a knee brace), trail runs 2-3 times a week etc. Now approaching retirement so may do more!

But does do a lot of circuit training or similar to keep muscles in top condition.
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@currybelly, ooops!!

@ecureuil, Yeah, I'm kind f getting back into everything and the knee's just twinging at times. But the advice is I need it reconn'ed or I won't really have the confidence in those "you don't want to fall here" zones.
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@currybelly, that sounds horrendous. Hope you heal well and quickly.
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That is the first time I have heard of a flailed chest from skiing. It is usually the motorcyclists who appear in the ED with such an affliction.

Wishing you a swift recovery!


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Well that's me back in my room. All went fine apparently. Hoping for swift arrival of drinks and snacks. Then need drain out, physio visit and surgeon. Then discharge papers. Should be out early evening. No great discomfort but clearly anaesthetics not all worn off.
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@under a new name, excellent. Hope goes wells

I took ages to come to after mine and BP kept plummeting for a bit
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Enjoy the drinks and snacks, @under a new name snowHead
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Woohoo! Enjoy the anaesthetic. Last time I had a general, every nurse in the recovery ward was a #10! Eventually, the effect wore off. See you soon snowHead
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@under a new name, fingers crossed that you’re fit to be signed out. And that the surgery was a success, of course.
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@NickyJ, a friend was the same. Improvements in anaesthetic protocols?

@pam w, Jam roll, fruit compote and coffee, ambrosia after fasting all day!

@shep, you need to arrange a visit!

@Cacciatore, Reasonably confident as long as physio and vet get to me in time. Physio just assessing my attack mode crutch control. Twisted Evil
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@under a new name, having had more ops needed it appears to be "me". I after second op I got told off by nurse when I said "same thing happened last time" saying I should have told them. My response though was I had no idea it wasnt normal
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@NickyJ, well it’s not just you from my chum’s experience!

Home from surgery. Good news: ACL straightforward, trimmed meniscus; less excellent news, removed cartilage flap from (maybe very?) old injury (Ski Tips season 1?) so micro-fracturing to encourage new growth means crutches for 4-6 weeks. But all the cool Cham kids are currently on crutches Eh oh!

(Meniscus and cartilage damage apparently very strong indicators for surgery in own right.)
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@under a new name, sorry came across wrong. Meaning it is not a normal reaction and there is obviously a subset of ud that react but it is not considered a normal reaction of course first time round just presumed it was!
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@NickyJ, ah fair enough.

Well, D+1 and remarkably pain free. Actually pain free yesterday but presuming anaesthetic lasting.

I am on 100mg (I think) Voltarol 1 x day and surgeon suggested 500mg paracetamol with unknown quantity of opium 3 x day for first few days, but still remarkably comfortable.
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@under a new name, Very Happy
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@Cacciatore, Reasonably confident as long as physio and vet get to me in time. Physio just assessing my attack mode crutch control. Twisted Evil


Laughing

https://images.app.goo.gl/1FzZ6X7DyEYcBeDo8

How did it go with the vet? Quick scruff of the head, a doggy choc and sent you on your way?
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@Cacciatore, I am liking that. I have a little list ...

Yep, just a briefing on what to do next and a run through of what he found and did. He was quite happy, esp. with the ACL.
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Saw physio this morning - I get the impression that in France they are the ones really "in charge" of the rehab - she was astonished/amazed at how good the knee is.

So now on stat bike 2x day, little squats, etc. Which is very fine. And no brace needed unless I feel it and defo not big "hockey" brace.  All good! Crutches for the few weeks but not for e.g. going for pee at 04h00 - or topping up a glass  Blush

Drugs wise I stopped the paracetamol/opium yesterday with no undue effects.
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That’s great news Very Happy Onwards and upwards!
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@under a new name, good news.
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@under a new name, fantastico!
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@under a new name, seems like a good excuse to now buy a good road bike and turbo Laughing

Was it hamstring recon?

If so don't be surprised, though you are on crutches for a good few weeks, that you might feel something go and then you're naturally paranoid it's the ACL graft, but in fact, it's where the hamstring was taken from. Seem to recall mine went about 2-3 times.
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Cheers all Little Angel

@Weathercam, yes, hamstring graft. Which is the only area that's really at all sensitive. And it's a bit odd to have a noticeably missing bit off one leg Shocked
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So we are now at the end of +week3:

My physio, the excellent Janie at La Clinique du Sport in Chamonix is (thankfully) delighted with my knee's progress. "Textbook" seems the description Happy

I seem to have "passed" the milestones in terms of flexion, extension, weight bearing, etc. expected at 4 weeks - so, "so far so good", as the bloke said halfway down after jumping off the Empire State building.

Oh and @Weathercam, yep, pinged the hamstring graft scar this morning doing the thing where you pull back the swiss ball.
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That’s good news, @under a new name Very Happy
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@Cacciatore, It seems to be. Sore hamstring today, pinged it again going up stairs Embarassed Oh yes and now I know what folks have been referring to about physios torturing them Shocked
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