 Poster: A snowHead
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The French government is testing blackout procedures this Friday with the government thinking it likely that services will be cut this winter. 19 nuclear power stations are still out of action although President Macron has promised to make up any generating shortfalls, estimated at around 5 to 10 Gigawatts by "buying it in from abroad".
The plan is to give people 3 days to 12 hours notice of blackouts then shut down the grid in one region for a period of 2 hours. Hospitals and any houses on the same circuit will not be affected but the blackouts will affect Trains and ski lifts - although it is hoped by doing them in a controlled manner no one will get stuck on transport.
An app to inform you of when and where the blackouts will take place has been downloaded by 800,000 people as of today.
Last edited by Poster: A snowHead on Thu 8-12-22 11:03; edited 1 time in total
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@davidof, I was just about to ask for your views on that and hey presto! The nuclear generation in France has stepped up over the last week off to but is still about 8 gigs down on last year. At peak demand today France was importing about 15% of its electricity. Good job that pair of windbags Beaune and Drian didn't cut the interconnectors to the UK as they threatened over whatever spat was happening at the time (fishing??). 
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@chocksaway, yes Clement Beaune is good at creating diplomatic incidents with other countries, I guess he does what his master tells him to play to the gammon crowd (les beaufs, les chasseurs etc).
They'll be needing those cables.
Commentators have said it is the Lebanonization of France (rolling blackouts) but it is probably the future.
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That bit would rather balls up the skiing part of a skiing holiday 
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| Timmycb5 wrote: |
That bit would rather balls up the skiing part of a skiing holiday |
yes, a risk of your tartiflette being served cold
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@davidof, 
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Good job I'm not going to France this season 
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| halfhand wrote: |
| Good job I'm not going to France this season |
Energy transition minister Agnès Pannier-Runacher has appealed to French people not to get washed this winter and turn their thermostats down to 18C to avoid power outages. The government has begged people to turn of WiFi routers and not leave any device on standbye. All this under the slogan ""Je baise, j'éteins, je décale"
Web page to see if you risk an imminent scheduled power outage
https://coupures-temporaires.enedis.fr/verification_coupure_adresse.html
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| davidof wrote: |
| halfhand wrote: |
| Good job I'm not going to France this season |
Energy transition minister Agnès Pannier-Runacher has appealed to French people not to get washed this winter and turn their thermostats down to 18C to avoid power outages. The government has begged people to turn of WiFi routers and not leave any device on standbye. All this under the slogan ""Je baise, j'éteins, je décale"
Web page to see if you risk an imminent scheduled power outage
https://coupures-temporaires.enedis.fr/verification_coupure_adresse.html |
There's a joke in there, somewhere!
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"Je baise, j'éteins, je décale"
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There's a joke in there, somewhere!
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No doubt. Though my sketchy French is always wary of using "baiser" as a verb.......
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You know it makes sense.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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@davidof, Wifi routers!? A quick google suggests that they use between 5 and 20 watts so absolutely minimal in the first place and if your house has electric heating, which I believe many French properties do, then the heater would simply have to increase its consumption by the exact amount that has been saved, but with the loss of internet access. Appliances on standby is also a total non-issue now after EU regulations greatly cut the amount that devices can draw while on standby. If this is how the French plan to cut energy usage then they are doomed, pissing in the wind
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| pam w wrote: |
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"Je baise, j'éteins, je décale"
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There's a joke in there, somewhere!
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No doubt. Though my sketchy French is always wary of using "baiser" as a verb....... |
are it seems an 's' got dropped during copy and paste ! je baisse (I lower), not je baise
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@rambotion, crazy isn't it?
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| pam w wrote: |
But I guess there's more than one way of keeping warm in a power cut.... |
maybe the 's' wasn't there to begin with then ?
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Just seen "The Boss" on French senate TV warning of the end of the world (or nearly) if the power goes out.
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@rambotion, yep. rather suggests a disturbing lack of numeracy, at least in terms of estimations
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| rambotion wrote: |
| @davidof, Wifi routers!? A quick google suggests that they use between 5 and 20 watts so absolutely minimal |
They actually said to turn Wifi routers off when you're on holiday, which is actually quite a good idea. By my maths every household would save 14kWh per year, if they had 20w router and holidayed 4 weeks a year. That's not nothing.
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@HilbertSpace, no... €2 is not nothing but it wouldn't be keeping me awake (Engie kWh ~= €0.16)
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| under a new name wrote: |
| @HilbertSpace, no... €2 is not nothing but it wouldn't be keeping me awake (Engie kWh ~= €0.16) |
But if every household in France did that then the grid would save about 500 gigawatts annually.
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The smallest ski lift uses ~7.5kW
If only 125 people in the resort had switched off their (20W) WiFi router, then that lift can run 8 hours a day for nothing.
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@midgetbiker, sure, I get that. But vs. so many other things, it wouldn't be my immediate focus. (p.s. it's only around 400gW if the estimate of internet'ed households I found is broadly correct (28mn)).
@HilbertSpace, ignore that, I see what you did there. What sort of size lift is that?
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| under a new name wrote: |
@HilbertSpace, ignore that, I see what you did there. What sort of size lift is that? |
I honestly don't know what lift uses only 7.5kW. Probably a rope tow
But I'm now resolved to switch off my WiFi when I go skiing.
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You know it makes sense.
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| HilbertSpace wrote: |
| I honestly don't know what lift uses only 7.5kW. |
Small magic carpet?
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@rambotion, I’ve cut my electricity consumption by about 20/25% by religiously turning off all appliances (including wifi) at the wall when they’re not in use. It can make a massive difference.
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France is reliant on Rusky power. Best go skiing in Azerbayjan which has no skiing infrastructure reliant on soviet electricity. 
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@Timmycb5, which is great. But I guess you’re not onvelectric heating?
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@under a new name, no, combo of gas fired central and lighting up the wood burners.
@rambotion, Off the top to my head. I regularly turn off:
Microwave
Oven
Washing machine/tumble
Xbox and TV (back room)
PS4, Game cube, sound bar, TV (front room)
All laptop (6) and iPhone (5) chargers
Office docking station
Wifi
Also lights in a room that doesn’t have a human in it.
The only thing I leave on is the hottub 
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@Timmycb5, the hottub probs means your other efforts are wasted?
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I have one of those electric plug meter things. I measured a whole bunch of appliances around the house and discovered that modern appliances like phone and laptop chargers, microwaves and the TV on standby use 0.0W -- unmeasurable.
There is no point switching these off. However older appliances, before the EU regulations, should be switched off or binned. E.g. some old TVs would use 12W on standby, but their owners think that by not replacing they are being frugal...
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Well they 'only' need 15,750 people to switch off their (20W) WiFi...
Yeah I know it's seems like peeing in the wind, but if every skier switched off unnecessary electric appliances (that consume meaningful power) at home before they headed off to the slopes, then overall there would be less chance of blackouts and ski lifts not running this season.
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@under a new name, 945kW is power. No time element involved, but in a hour it would use 945kWh which is energy. Or summat like that, it's late
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The watt is energy usage by time, or power:
1 Watt = 1 Joule / second
Where a Joule is a measure of energy, though for some reason we use kWh instead, which is just 3,600,000 Joules.
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