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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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It might be doable in high summer but it is very very cold up there now despite the good weather (today, obviously not in the photo). No doubt the mayor will be ranting again after a British guy left a rowing machine at the summit.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| Mr Hussein, 26, a graduate aerospace engineer |
So is he not an idiot in the same way that Kwarteng isn't ?
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Actually reading the story he sounds a bit less of an idiot that it first appears, naive certainly.
The mountain rescue thought he was a desperate migrant trying to cross into France !!!
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Some journalists claim he had crampons, others say the opposite.
The impression given is totally different depending on how you spin it.
No rescue I was part of was ever accurately reported even a a really basic level like body count.
If people (including daily mail types) really wanted to know about stuff like this, you need to look
at the rescue service's reports.
The rest... politics.
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Unfortunately there is a persistent minority who want to get to the top of Mt Blanc without appropriate clothing & equipment and little to no experience. No issue with them trying (I suspect neither Goretex or vibram soles were around in 1786) it is the risk it creates for those who have to rescue them. I can understand the frustration of some of the local mayors with the problems it causes.
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@munich_irish, Today’s report in the Times gives a different slant. He had equipment but it was covered over by the snow when he was rescued and he was in no fit state to grab it.
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Still pretty stupid to be up there on his own for the first time with bad weather coming in. Seems he took a wrong turn trying to find the Gonella refuge, then couldn’t turn back as his rope wasn’t long enough (didn’t understand that bit?) so tried to climb higher to the Durier refuge, ended up tip toeing through a crevasse field and fell in one. Obviously not so deep that he couldn’t call the rescue services. 25kg of kit it says he was carrying which is a lot!!!
Seems this was his plan but he missed the turn and ended up climbing up the Bionnassay glacier
https://fatmap.com/routeid/190664/approach-to-the-gonella-hut
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|You can't cure STUPID
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It's always going to happen in mountains. Young fit people who on the face of it have no problem with the physical demands are always going to give things a go without necessarily all the planning or experience to be properly prepared/equipped. No real difference to seasonnaires skiing off piste without the gear or having done any rundimentary terrain assessment.
I felt like a twerp when I had to call MRT when I slipped on a wet slab and fell on my arris on a hike off a fell but pragmatically I realised I'd either fractured my pelvis or trapped a nerve and the effect was similar - debilitating pain when I tried to mobilise. Fortunately not a long hike in for them and I could give a pinpoint grid ref and fortunately for me it turned out to be the latter cause. I was rather reluctant to let A&E cut off my pricey goretex kecks though but small price to pay.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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The story’s on R4 PM now
Alas very superficial treatment of the general aspect of don’t climb if you don’t know what you’re doing angle and very little in the actual facts of this case.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Perhaps I misread the original article (I dont think so) but it seems to have changed. Vast difference between someone being reckless and someone being naïve. I suspect we have all pushed ourselves at various points (I always preferred to be out in the mountains on my own and as a result ended up a couple of times in less than ideal situations) and most live to tell the tale. Even on a pleasant summer's day Mt Blanc has plenty of elephant traps, it is not a place for the inexperienced on their own. The south side is pretty remote and wild, not a good place to get into trouble.
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We had quite a few incidents out in the Peak District with folks trying to find the crashed bomber sites using Google Maps in just t-shirts and trainers.
Our local MRT from what I have seen have never moaned in public about rescuing them.
Seems it was Facebook / Instagram / Stupidity driven.
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You know it makes sense.
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@munich_irish, A friend has been to the summit twice recently. He said the heatwave had made certain sections more complicated (3 monts route) if anyone is heading out there worth bearing in mind.
The Gouter route can, conceivably, be tackled in trainers and shorts in the summer without too much risk although you'll get seriously bollocked if you get into trouble doing it.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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The report I read suggest that he missed the route to the Gonella Hut so tried to make it to the Durier which is on the Miage-Bionassay ridge. No wonder he got into trouble - I don't think there is any sensible route to the Durier from there!
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Poster: A snowHead
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| Bob wrote: |
| |You can't cure STUPID |
My favourite ever snowheads quote
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