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Portes du Soleil 2022/2023 - Avoriaz/Morzine/Les Gets/Chatel/Swiss Side etc.

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@daddyjxb, and the run down to Perrieres was in really good nick last weekend even though some of the higher runs were a bit manky.
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Overnight Op runs show only one rouge model now (JMA) linking up the atlantic on the 7th, some of the better ones are below. So pretty much 6 out of 7 are keen to get uninterupted polar cold in first. It's still likely that we'll get some westerly input from 9-12th, but not nailed on. There is actually a second strat warming underway so this will disturb the model output in the 8-14 day range and potentially lead to another round of high lat blocking into mid month.



But for next week the cold and snowy outlook is about as firmly dans la poche as you can get 6-7 days out. Then as above it warms up a little into next weekend.
Here's a look at some of the expected 1500m temps across France on 7-8th. First 2 are mean ensemble charts (GFS and GEM), next 2 are op runs (ECM and UKMO)



The deeper cold is to the north....UK could see -8c at 1500m, while NW alps more like -4

For ppn, it's the lesser of 2 evils with the atlantic being held back a few days. But it means less wind affected snowfall under a relatively slack flow. I read an interesting idea that models underestimate inland convective precipitation in early March, as the sun is just about strong enough to heat the land in the morning leading to a more humid air mass. Vague theories aside, it's time to get the wax out. New snow, new snowboard, new gopro....all going to plan.


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@polo, Fingers crossed for you Mr P - looks like midweek could be good - I wonder could I phone in sick....
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@elefantfresh, I've got a spare room Cool , we don't rent our little place out.....actually have no business interests in the alps apart from occasional refurbs for friends of friends. If anything I want it to be less busy locally, but I reckon there will be enough snow for at least 2 snowboarders
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@polo, Thats the best offer I'm going to get today hahahah! I'd truly love to but theres no way I can swing that without handing in my notice LOL!
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Polo, excellent thanks. loving the outlying rouge model. Was genuinely looking for red areas rather than a typo. Heading out to Les Gets on thu 9th so fingers crossed this prediction comes to pass. Your way of explaining the models is ideal for those with limited knowledge. cheers
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Arrive late Saturday in Les Gets. Looks like limited Sunday Monday but hopefully Tuesday onwards will be good. Thanks for all the updates very helpful
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Honestly @rinky75 - other than some low-lying and sunny pistes, it’s not really “limited” at all - you can ski back to Les Gets and the pistes in the bowl are still fine - some bare patches but you’ll have fun (unless you require knee deep fresh to have fun, in which case maybe not).

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@risb98, good spot, there's always one.....thankfully the only rouge high pressure areas are far far away.
GFS 06z sharpening up as well. Now that the main low isn't likely to get pulled too far west initially, the only way to mess this up would be for all the precip to end up to our east, but the models are running out of time for big adjustments (1-2 days more at most). And the fact that modelling further out does show the westerly low connecting (even if it gets mild), I'm hopeful that we remain in the sweet spot to get decent snow in first....but as ever, it could go wrong last minute ASCC (that's an anti-sugar coated caveat).
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@rinky75, this is a good way to check low level snow in Les Gets IMHO


http://youtube.com/v/QnaiEO4wuAA
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@kitenski, yep, won't be an issue if GFS 06 has the freeze level correct.....sea level across northern europe, and 400m NW alps

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Thanks Andy and Kitenski. Just me and the Mrs having cheeky week kid free so cruising pistes and long lunches in order. Only road biked the area in summer so keen to see what it’s like for skiing.
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If you’re there for a week @rinky75, get yourself over to Avoriaz/Chatel if you can. More to go at and a bit more altitude.

I’m back out on Friday and am looking forward to a few sunny days before the goggles come out midweek. Only blot on the landscape is I’ve agreed to work Thursday so will miss what might be a great day.
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We’ve got a hire car so will give that a go, be nice not to cycle through goat village for a change….staying near foot of m’ont chery hopefully end of week be able to ski that side also.
Wife working 1 or 2 days so might venture on those days.
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If you’re driving park at Ardent (on the Joux Verte road) then you’re straight into Lindarets.

@polo - what’s Praz de Lys like in the snow? Have a spare day next Wednesday and thought I might use one of my ‘Ski Decouverte’ days over there - but if it’s treeless and barren it might not be the best day to go.
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@andy from embsay, sorry, I'm not polo, but my thoughts: there are plenty of trees at Praz de Lys but also some large open areas (including all the runs from the top lift). You'd also risk missing out on the superb views which are one of the key draws of the area. I would wait for a sunny day, or at least one with good visibility.
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Thanks@denfinella - question was directed to “anyone who’s been” really, just that Polo is the fount of all knowledge - so that’s useful! I’d be on my own so will wait til I’ve got a chum with me.
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andy from embsay wrote:
If you’re driving park at Ardent (on the Joux Verte road) then you’re straight into Lindarets.

@polo - what’s Praz de Lys like in the snow? Have a spare day next Wednesday and thought I might use one of my ‘Ski Decouverte’ days over there - but if it’s treeless and barren it might not be the best day to go.


Been a while, but as I recall it's mostly fairly low, below the tree line, so would definitely be a good choice in poor vis conditions. I recall having a blast in fresh powder the last time I was there as it seemed to be off the map for most keen off-piste skiers. No idea if that's still the case.
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Thanks @Chaletbeauroc - might go later in the week when my mate arrives.
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@andy from embsay, steady on, much more knowledgeable people on here, but I am pretty good around the back garden. Only been a few times, best conditions were actually when the lifts were closed....well worth a visit, good variety, and up to 2000m peak. When it's snowing I rarely stray too far / newish territory....but Morilon / Samoens also excellent for some untracked side piste. If we get 30+
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All things are relative, @polo! We’ve already used our Grand Massif day so was looking for a day out with a shortish drive as I’ll be on my own and have an airport run at night.
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@andy from embsay,

It’s great on a powder day and quiet too. The only thing is, I don’t know how much snow making they have. It starts at 1600m ish, from memory, so the natural base will be better than Morzine/Les Gets. If the forecast stays cold then a couple of days of snow should restore some of it.

@polo, as I read the charts, it looks like a couple of days of snow to all levels, followed by a warmer wet period before cooling again. Is that how you see it? It’s looking like a serious amount of precipitation, whatever colour it is!
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Thought I’d share a couple of pics from the Passion PDS IG feed:

An overhead map of the PDS circuit which helps explain the route.

I had never noticed that piste marker posts were different between CH and FR. The point to note is the small orange section are on opposite sides which could be confused in a whiteout.



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Ozboy wrote:
Thought I’d share a couple of pics from the Passion PDS IG feed:

I had never noticed that piste marker posts were different between CH and FR. The point to note is the small orange section are on opposite sides which could be confused in a whiteout.



That would explain why I was trying to go uphill in my last whiteout in Switzerland. Puzzled
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How is the Super Chatel are at the mo? Or better to stay over at Plaine Dranse if we only have Chatel passes? Heading up on Sat/Sun...
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That Passion website reminded me Rock the Pistes is on 12-18th Mar
https://www.rockthepistes.com/programmation.html?no_cache=1

@zzz, very hard to say, too much scatter beyond the 8-9th for any detail. On balance it does look a bit dodgy right now, as there is so much low pressure on this side (atlantic / europe)....will need some luck / changes
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@andy from embsay, there is quite a bit of snow making now at Praz de Lys. If I recall correctly they spent a fair amount on snow making, and then the following winter the access road up from the junction on the road up from Taninges was closed, for huge amounts of time following rock falls and repairs.
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. As mentioned in the other thread - SC only good in the front face - the back-side, with no snow making facilities, had turned to mud 2 weeks ago and all runs were closed by the end of the week except for the black Barbosine. Start at SC in the morning, laps of the new Conche chair, and make you way over to PD, via Linga, for the afternoon. I think this way you can accommodate everyone in your group inc meeting the non-skier for lunch.
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Mmm, I wouldn't be so complimentary about the snowmaking. Only a minority of runs are covered, and when I was there in late January (just after the previous big snowfall), on piste coverage was noticeably patchier than at Morzine / Les Gets.

When there is reasonable natural snow cover, Praz de Lys tends to have better coverage at equivalent heights. When (as now) areas are relying on artificial, I'd suggest the opposite is true.
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Ozboy wrote:

I had never noticed that piste marker posts were different between CH and FR. The point to note is the small orange section are on opposite sides which could be confused in a whiteout.

Not so much on opposite sides, just that the Swiss ones have small left and large right, the French ones have nothing left and small right, so in both cases my rule of "left is less" works, but yeah, if you come across a single pole on its own with a small orange mark and you don't know which country you're in it could be unclear.

In practice the pole markings in CH are very visible, often thicker poles and much better maintained, so the orange part is really noticeable, whereas in France you could be forgiven for not realising that they're there at all, so poorly painted they are.

Never seen that sign though - anyone know where it is?
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That Passion website reminded me Rock the Pistes is on 12-18th Mar
https://www.rockthepistes.com/programmation.html?no_cache=1

I'd noticed signs up for Eagle-Eye Cherry at Plaine Dranse on Monday, and I see that we have an AC/DC tribute band in the village here at one point, but I've never heard of any of the other acts - anyone au courant enough to recommend any of them?
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Snow wise, arriving in a week for a few days.

Am I right in surmising that the off piste is in a bad place due to both poor snow coverage, but also a dodgy base due to rain, frozen to ice early in the season on which the subsequent snow settled?

So even if we get snow, piste is best?

Not bringing any avi kit, so as not to be tempted into being stupid. Wide skis on and to the side of the piste will be fine, thanks.
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@Chaletbeauroc,
Martin Solveig is pretty famous if you like pop house.....his big track is Hello, with Dragonette. Bit cheesy for me but will draw a big crowd.
DJ Lady Eliza is well known in Morzine / Les Gets, regularly plays 90's house / D&B
But the one I'll definitely try and catch are Squid Lips, great local cover band that play in Le Biot, Morzine, Grand Ourse, Chamois Hotel....all over. See youtube, but you really have to see them live

No idea on the others.....I'd like to see the AC/DC band but Morgins is in different country far far away, with confusing piste markers
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The AC/DC mob play in the Avalanche pub in Chatel
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Chaletbeauroc wrote:
"left is less"


Thanks for sharing this.
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Harry Flashman wrote:
Am I right in surmising that the off piste is in a bad place due to both poor snow coverage, but also a dodgy base due to rain, frozen to ice early in the season on which the subsequent snow settled?

Not necessarily. I did venture into the big wide spaces at the top of the Lindarets bowl last weekend and it was nice and firm, slightly spring-like in the afternoon but not breaking through. Or was that the previous week? Yes, it was, in fact.

But in any case, there's a good base, the January snow is still hanging about even in the village here, and up there there's probably still a good metre of depth, and the sprinklings of snow over the last couple of days won't have hurt it. As far as I know there hasn't been any rain since xmas. It would take a fair dump to be worth getting the fat skis out, but I wouldn't rule it out completely.
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Chaletbeauroc wrote:
Ozboy wrote:

I had never noticed that piste marker posts were different between CH and FR. The point to note is the small orange section are on opposite sides which could be confused in a whiteout.

Not so much on opposite sides, just that the Swiss ones have small left and large right, the French ones have nothing left and small right, so in both cases my rule of "left is less" works, but yeah, if you come across a single pole on its own with a small orange mark and you don't know which country you're in it could be unclear.

In practice the pole markings in CH are very visible, often thicker poles and much better maintained, so the orange part is really noticeable, whereas in France you could be forgiven for not realising that they're there at all, so poorly painted they are.

Never seen that sign though - anyone know where it is?


Noticed that sign the other day, it's at the top of the Grand-Conche chair from memory.
Could someone care to explain what it means, as I couldn't work it out at the time.
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@B1g_browner, In CH the piste marker poles on the left side have a short orange top section, those on the right a much longer one. So if you find a single post in poor vis you should be able to work out which side the piste is on. In France the left ones have no orange, the right ones do, but just a short section.

This is pretty standard in most Swiss resorts, but not always the case in other French ones, as far as I know.
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re: Orange Tips.....

'Left is Less'
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