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A question for those with teenagers. Jr skis 2-3 weeks a season and has about 15 weeks under his skis. We always hire at the top level package for him and whilst the skis normally reflect this, sometimes the boots are a bit ropey. At 15 is he likely to outgrow a decent pair or is he likely to get a few years out of them? He’s a size 44-45 so the same as me; I’m just wondering if by next season he’ll have done with growing. Any experience or thoughts?
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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My money is on you wearing his cast offs after one season if you buy for him now.
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I'm in the same situation. What I'm doing is buying second hand or remainder stock in DS mondo point size, in the (so far true) hope that he will find them a great deal better than the hire stock. Then aiming to sell on. As it happens, I've got a pair at the moment!
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My money is on you wearing his cast offs after one season if you buy for him now
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Yes.
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We had this discussion on here a few months ago and some agreed that you need to worry about calf ankle fit , if his toes are 2mm or 22mm away from toe box what difference does it really make
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Feet are among the first things to get big, and among the first to stop growing. You say he's matched you in shoe size already. If he's mostly caught or passed you height-wise his feet aren't going to have another big growth spurt, and you can buy. Otherwise...
For my kids I spent the time and effort in town buying stuff (and trading, and doing hand-me-downs etc to control costs) rather than messing around at the resort renting stuff that often doesn't fit or work very well.
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joffy69 wrote: |
I'm in the same situation. What I'm doing is buying second hand or remainder stock in DS mondo point size, in the (so far true) hope that he will find them a great deal better than the hire stock. Then aiming to sell on. As it happens, I've got a pair at the moment! |
They don’t happen to be 44/45 do they
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Thanks all. I’ll hold off on new ones but I will search the second hand/end of stock sales for now and see if we can get something comfortable but better than hires.
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RobH2017 wrote: |
Thanks all. I’ll hold off on new ones but I will search the second hand/end of stock sales for now and see if we can get something comfortable but better than hires. |
Good call. I’d also consider asking the hire shop if they’d do you a deal at the end of the week when he next hires a pair he likes. You might be surprised how cheap it is.
The advice I got from a boot fitter is that 18 is a good estimate for when boys feet stop growing. 15 for girls. He did say there was more variation with boys.
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Yup, I would leave it a few years from my experience or go second hand if they are decent quality/price. Also have more kids to get better value on hand me downs!
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go second hand if they are decent quality/price. Also have more kids to get better value on hand me downs!
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This is what we've done for ski and snowboard boots for our two, although getting your money's worth out of ski-gear is a terrible financial reason to have more kids...
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My son was 16 and daughter 14 at the start of last season. We've mostly done second hand, we bought one new pair once because they were a good price and we knew we could hand them down from son to daughter to get use out of them. This year we bought new but cheapish (Decathlon) - partly because of time constraints. Bigger question for me is if/when we go to solutions4feet and get it all done properly. The Decathlon boots have been OK but they are really rubbish at staying/getting dry and the feet is no more than adequate. So maybe we'll bite the bullet this autumn.
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I can't see how once you get into adult ski boots that buying new and planning on flipping on is particularly viable. Not least as cost is high and demand is low. Maybe if you buy the Decathlon Wedze range....
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You know it makes sense.
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Mr P was able to give at least one of his boys his cast offs when they got to 16 or so. The thing with kids who had skied since they were 5 or 6 was that so much better than us, they were able to ski in any decent quality boots that were the right size.
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Perty wrote: |
Mr P was able to give at least one of his boys his cast offs when they got to 16 or so. The thing with kids who had skied since they were 5 or 6 was that so much better than us, they were able to ski in any decent quality boots that were the right size. |
I did this (and treated myself to new boots - win/win situation!). All good until his feet got bigger than mine. Seems that kids can ski in most things (and dont complain either ) also I guess their feet are more of a "standard" shape when young and don't yet have protrutions and growths that adult feet have and need fitting around.
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Poster: A snowHead
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My 17yo can complain with the best of em but yeah up to 14/15 they are very tolerant.
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When their feet stop growing, otherwise it's a pair every year.
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Personally I would buy boots right from when they are little kids. Here in Norfolk at the Snowsports Club dry slope there is a thriving market in second/third/fourth hand ski boots in all sizes, including good kids/teens race boots.
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I have found little kids so tolerant of whatever boots they are given that until/unless they get really good, or into racing, I wouldn't bother with the hassle of buying and storing them. One of my grand-daughters was complaining very mildly about her boots in a lesson one day - the instructor then noticed that she had them on the wrong feet...... One of my nephews was bought a pair of boots by a keen, but utterly ignorant mother, for Christmas. He was about 13 and by the time he came skiing a couple of months later he'd grown out of them.
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Layne wrote: |
My 17yo can complain with the best of em but yeah up to 14/15 they are very tolerant. |
Possibly as in many cases I’m sure they get given boots that are too big (to grow into ) rather than ones that pinch.
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Since my eldest grew out of full tilt adjustable boots, I’ve bought 5 pairs of boots in 1 size increments. I buy them during the summer when they’re 50% off and just keep them until he’s ready for the next pair. He always changes in the summer, I think because he’s skiing less, so less used to uncomfortable boots and because it’s hotter in the summer so you’re feet swell up a bit. The old ones then get put back in the box and my daughter is slowly working her way through them. I might sell them at some point or just keep them for my nieces kids.
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No idea why folks think this is even an issue. My tip: When they ask for them for a Christmas Present!!
For Info: I have 3 and never bought boots until they asked. 22 year old (skis maybe 3/4 weeks a year) prefers to hire each season. 21 Year old (skis maybe 3/4 weeks a year) finally found some that he really likes this year and bought them. 20 year old (Ski Instructor Canada) has 3 pairs!!
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@RedandWhiteFlachau, your kids obviously didn't have awkward shaped feet then. Mini_mg has very narrow feet with very high insteps. She was very happy in a pair of Roces adjustable boots for several years (cost £35 from Sports direct, IIRC) but a few years ago she started to comment that they didn't feel great. We went through pretty much every shop here that sells boots, and found just 1 pair that weren't painful but still held her ankles firmly enough. Hiring would have almost certainly been a holiday breaker for her.
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we've got roces adjustables for both our kids. 1st pair have had 18 weeks skiing in them, chuck liners in the wash machine to freshen up. little un will get another 5 weeks next season in them. That's 23 weeks at £80 £3.47 a week. No doubt I'll be able to pass them on to someone else to keep the stoke flowing as well
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@RobH2017, always a question we get asked at he shop, the answer is always difficult to be precise with as everyone is different.... normally we are seeing junior racers and parents want a size up so they don't grow out of them, not something that ethically i will do.... but.... for girls MOST feet will have stopped growing by age 13/14, boys it is completely different 15/16 and often 17 but every individual is different, personally i would hang off a year or 2 yet... the aim being you buy him one pair and by the time he needs another he has left home gone to uni and got a job to pay for them with
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@CEM, Like minds my friend and the boots you did for me at the start of the season are still fabulous, worth every penny! The other thing I've noticed is that it isn't just about feet! My 21 Year old Powerlifiting Rugby player has very large calves. Yes his feet stopped growing in late teens but boots would have been wasted by the subsequent changes in the shape of his lower legs. It all comes down to personal choice in the end I suppose.
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