@munich_irish, plenty of excellent bowls of pasta in Lech at very reasonable prices, and wíth table service! I'm always a bit surprised to hear people repeating the same Lech-clichés time and again...
And that Zürs (and Warth!) are best spots to go skiing when the weather is hot is no big news either. But Oberlech stays best for terraces!
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@Langerzug, there's a table service restaurant at Gampen, it was very nice when we visited a couple of years ago. I gather the Rodelalm has seen changes but I have no idea what it's like now, I hope to investigate in a couple of weeks. Given the snow situation and sunny forecast I suspect we'll have time to visit a lot of restaurants
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@sah, The Rodelalm is now owned by Anthonys which is a steak and burger spot in the village which looks like an upmarket Maccy Ds to me but maybe I am wrong. Pity the Skiing Budha folks havent got a hut to serve lunchtime curry.
@munich_irish,
yep, Arlbergfan works for Lech Tourism.
Since Flexenbahn, we still have to do the Run of Fame (or rather Lech-Rendl-Lech)
It's these images, and the lack of nice restaurants that is putting us off....Any suggestions for nicer restaurants (not too busy, real chairs instead of benches, no loud music etc.) on the St.Anton side?
Looking to come end of March, hopefully that helps (and the snow lasts...)
At Stuben there is the Hotel Post and the Berghaus, both have comfortable seating (chairs) and tablecloths. Only had lunch at them though, e.g. pasta or goulash suppe, it was fine. Also at Stuben is compact s'Murmele, quaint with dark wood furnishings, hard seating, but good food: again just had pasta, goulash suppe or grostl. All have quiet atmosphere.
On Rendl there is only the Bifang Alm (low down on R1), apart from the main restaurant at the gondola summit. The Bifang Alm is dark wood interior with long tables and benches. It has an excellent wine list, again only lunched there but the service is good; it's popular at lunchtime and is not big inside: has back ground music.
For lunch we also head for Rodelalm, off 33 above Nasserein. We like the food. Interior has pleasant wood seating, with large tables. Features a central open log fire.
Some have recommended the food at the Griabli, by the Mooserwirt. Not eaten at the Griabli for some years.
Gampen Restaurant is big and gets very busy, and noisey. Since the refurb it has a softer interior but still has very large tables and hard seating. On bad weather days it gets crammed, young families, etc.
But as sah says there is a separate restaurant but I've no experience of it.
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Just back from a fabulous night out. We were surprised with a dinner to celebrate 20 years of coming to St Anton.
If you are looking for a special night out, and you are not a vegan ; then go to https://www.andinohotel.at/en/alfuego/ you will not be disappointed. It is an Argentinian restaurant. The rib eye was fabulous, as were the pork ribs. There is a lovely sitting area in front of an open fire to enjoy pre & post dinner drinks, especially their special rum.
Reservations can be hard to get because they give the hotel guests first opportunity to book, but well worth the effort.
Even so this is not a "normal" mid winter in the Arlberg
This winter has been especially dry too, but this is now the third winter in a row with sustained May-like temperatures in Feb... Personally I really enjoy skiing when it's like this, but it's worrying that this seems to be becoming a trend!
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It's these images, and the lack of nice restaurants that is putting us off....Any suggestions for nicer restaurants (not too busy, real chairs instead of benches, no loud music etc.) on the St.Anton side?
The Mooserwirt actually does pretty decent... EDIT: just checked the menu and they're charging €26 for a salad; they've gone mad!! No-one should be paying and enabling that sort of blatant rip-off, even in the Arlberg, the greedy Fitzwilliams
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ON the hill in Lech (Oberlech)
Hotel Salome has a good self service resturant good quality... cheaper than St Anton !!They also have Table Service Restaurant.
Griabli does very good value Tágesgericht (Dish of the Day) Week days Only..
For folks complaining about the huge size of the Portions..... Its has always been possible to order a half portions in the Moose... They do not advertisie it.... as atvnearly half price food it means less of a Tip !!
Hotel Post , Berghaus , Hospiz Alm, Bifang, plus nearly all others .. The Goulash Soup just comes out of a tin or concentrated (more profit) !!!
Just 5 minute detour
If you really want to save money... jump off the Hill at NassereinBahn (valley) and walk down to the bakery in the Nasserein Car Park ... You can get reasonable fresh sandwich & a Hot or Cold drink and still get change from €10 ... Can sit out on the terrace on a nice sunnny day..
Back on the hill in no time at all..
Why not try the Greek resturant in the Hotel Alpinhof (bus 3 stops right outside) or the Lorenz Restaurant in the Arlhome (Gastigweg) These are good and way cheaper than in the centre
Local meteo guy is calling for some snow on Thursday above 1600M and a low coming in snow for Saturday ....but anything can change ....
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The Mooserwirt actually does pretty decent... EDIT: just checked the menu and they're charging €26 for a salad; they've gone mad!! No-one should be paying and enabling that sort of blatant rip-off, even in the Arlberg, the greedy Fitzwilliams
You forgot to mention the "THE BIG MOOOOOOOOSI" a giant burger with a 3L glass of Weißbier all for only €198,76, I wonder how many of those they sell?. Perhaps when the beer googles kick in after a number of Fliegender Hirsch chasers it seems like a bargain!
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clarky999 wrote:
The Mooserwirt actually does pretty decent... EDIT: just checked the menu and they're charging €26 for a salad; they've gone mad!! No-one should be paying and enabling that sort of blatant rip-off, even in the Arlberg, the greedy Fitzwilliams
You forgot to mention the "THE BIG MOOOOOOOOSI" a giant burger with a 3L glass of Weißbier all for only €198,76, I wonder how many of those they sell?. Perhaps when the beer googles kick in after a number of Fliegender Hirsch chasers it seems like a bargain!
I've seen one ordered by 4 guys who shared it, they still didn't finish it. Its big enough for about 6 people to share, in which case I suppose the price becomes more reasonable.
I just checked the date on some photos I have, it was 22nd Feb 2020 a short time before the first covid wave kicked off and they were all drinking out of the same 3L glass and passing it around to anyone else who wanted to try it. I wonder if any of them got ill afterwards.
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An Argentine Steakhouse and 'Big Moose'...
Sorry but we have way too much of that in Amsterdam already.
(and Salome in Oberlech is really not that good either)
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Not everyone wants to eat schnitzel mit pommes every day. As it turns out, that steakhouse was exceptionally good and deserves the accolade.
It however should not concern you, @Langerzug until/if you actually come here to ski. If you, just go somewhere else to eat.
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Not everyone wants to eat schnitzel mit pommes every day. As it turns out, that steakhouse was exceptionally good and deserves the accolade.
It however should not concern you, @Langerzug until/if you actually come here to ski. If you, just go somewhere else to eat.
Well, Germanic cuisine already is rather meaty, can't really see what Argentine beef adds to the scene. Especially since nowadays trend is so much focussed on being and eating local...It needs to come a long way, from Argentina....
And apart from that, from reading the replies, there is not much else coming up. I've heard of some nicer options in Stuben. Maybe after all we just indeed have to stick to the Vorarlberg-side....
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@Langerzug, Basecamp directly opposite the Galzigbahn is supposed to do decent pasta, has table service though there is music (fairly restrained during the day). It is also more expensive than Lech €13 for a cappuccino & water as opposed to €9 at the Tannberghof, no bright yellow convertible Porsches cruising up & down the road outside though Normally lots of Dutch folk.
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@ulmerhutte,
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It is an Argentinian restaurant
Peruvian actually...... fab food, great vibe, not cheap but worth it as a special treat - been there a couple of times pre-lockdown, going to go back in 2 weeks, forgot about it so thanks for the reminder.
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@ulmerhutte,
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It is an Argentinian restaurant
Peruvian actually...... fab food, great vibe, not cheap but worth it as a special treat - been there a couple of times pre-lockdown, going to go back in 2 weeks, forgot about it so thanks for the reminder.
Peruvian cuisine: possibly the most underrated. Includes Ceviche (fish), imaginative dishes with avocado, lomo saltado (beef), rocoto peppers, cuy, potato dishes of course. Despite using chilles, the flavours tend to be subtle. Had the cuy just the once not sure I'd have again though! But wonderful ceviche, yep that does it.
Not tried the Andino, a bit pricey maybe.
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@Markymark29, thanks. My bad. I was told it was Argentinian, but it is indeed Peruvian. Regardless, it was fabulous. The rib eye was ordered rare, and it was cooked to perfection - so tender and a lovely crust from the BBQ. My Wife pronounced her pork ribs were equally good. There was a nice buzz in the room - it gave the feeling of people enjoying themselves, while not intruding on our conversation. It is wonderful that St Anton has places of this calibre.
Today was warm, as was forecast. Best skiing is obviously in the morning. I am seriously thinking of downloading at the end of the day… the valley run, especially below Osthang, is a sloppy, crowded mess. A good place to get injured.
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Our group did Valluga North with the guide today. Great guy, Lukas. It was very good, a little hard for the 3 snowboarders (myself included) but very smooth for the other 2 skiers.
Tomorrow Rendl at 8.45, maybe doing the off piste route.
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@Markymark29, thanks. My bad. I was told it was Argentinian, but it is indeed Peruvian. Regardless, it was fabulous. The rib eye was ordered rare, and it was cooked to perfection - so tender and a lovely crust from the BBQ. My Wife pronounced her pork ribs were equally good. There was a nice buzz in the room - it gave the feeling of people enjoying themselves, while not intruding on our conversation. It is wonderful that St Anton has places of this calibre.
Today was warm, as was forecast. Best skiing is obviously in the morning. I am seriously thinking of downloading at the end of the day… the valley run, especially below Osthang, is a sloppy, crowded mess. A good place to get injured.
From that description - Rib eye, BBQ, pork ribs, the cuisine IS Argentinian not Peruvian. Could be Peruvian managed but not Peruvian cuisine.
I will call in and find out for myself.
But for genuine Peruvian cuisine in London check out "Lima" and "Cerviche".
Been in AlFuego yesterday and going again today. Great restaurant for protein people.
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@davidthornton, I must admit that hearing that it was beef and BBQ, and not Australian , did not cause me to question the Argentinian description, but on their website:
Regardless, the whole experience was ab fab, and we got to have a drink with the owner, who came across as a thoroughly nice gentleman.
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oscarkat wrote:
for the Austrians, if it doesn't come from a pig, they're are not interested
Of course tourists have allowed catering business to lower their standards and sell frozen Wienerschitzel produced from Pork, Chicken even Turkey.
However have you heard of Vienna's most famous dish and its NOT Wienerschitzel which really originates from the Milan area of Italy and should NEVER be served with Pommes/Frittes Ketchup/Mayo .. ONly should be served with Potato Vinegrette Salad (not the German style ) or pietersielie kartoffel with preiselbeeren...
There is a story that the recipe for Schnitzel was bought back to Vienna by Marshal Radetzky (of Radetzky March fame) after his successful campaigns in northern Italy in the mid 19th century ie cotoletta alla milanese however this seems highly likely to be a myth though there have been much culinary mixing between the lands north and south of the alps over the centuries. German speaking peoples have long been fascinated by the Land where the lemon trees grow so copying a breaded chop would make sense. I had long thought Wiener Schnitzel was a Jewish dish (clearly not the modern pork & chips version) simply because of its popularity in Kosher restaurants, though it seems it was just popular with, the then, large Viennese Jewish population.
Not sure this has anything to do with skiing in the Arlberg!
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Not sure this has anything to do with skiing in the Arlberg!
Snow conditions must be pretty dire atm, given all people want to talk about is food eh?
Any local updates/ photo's etc?
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Snow is nice everywhere above 2000 meters. Rendl was very good this morning. Lech is to avoid, village runs in St Anton are always slushy from 12 PM forward. Much more colder now.
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@nunex, Cheers, was only joking, any time in the mountains is fine......arriving on 4th, hope it snows some before then.
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Forecasts are giving a little bit of refresher this weekend. Unfortunately the big upside of off piste in St Anton is not possible this year unless it snows 2 meters I guess…
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Snow seems a bit firmer today, except for a few pitches that have had the full force of the sun and traffic. It is still very warm in the sun. Valfagehr (first thing) was nice, as were Balmen, Zürsertali, and Stuben. Schindlerkar was okay, but we only got onto it at 1pm.
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Lech is to avoid
..true. It is but a truck stop on Hwy 101 to Warth/Schröcken! Seriously, it is usually the first to cook off as the weather warms. Many runs look quite caffè latte. Madloch-Zug must be very sketchy: the warning has been changed from “partially groomed, possibly some stones” to something like: “many stones, few snow”.
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Madloch-Zug must be very sketchy: the warning has been changed from “partially groomed, possibly some stones” to something like: “many stones, few snow”.
I skied it on Saturday, the top section was good as was, surprisingly, the bottom. The middle bit was not so good large areas of mud & stones but you could ski around them though I thought that what snow cover existed was pretty thin, it doesn't get a lot of direct sunlight so it might be OK for a while yet. It was a lot better than the last bit of the Osthang behind the Sennhütte.
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@munich_irish,
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Not sure this has anything to do with skiing in the Arlberg!
Snow conditions must be pretty dire atm, given all people want to talk about is food eh?
Any local updates/ photo's etc?
You know it's bad when all you get is pics of food and videos of local musicians...
Hope the weather turns soon for you Euro Snowheads.
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@munich_irish, isn't funny that Basecamp (and the Bergschlössl) is owned by a daughter of the Moosbrugger family of Gasthof Post-Lech...
Oh and Wiener Schnitzel must be veal, no pork.
And cappuccino is invented in Vienna (too) (comes from Kapuziner)
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Weather forecasts are changing in the good direction!
Possibly up to 50 cm's Saturday for Nordstau areas! (=Arlberg)
And more and more talk about March becoming winterlike cold and sunny (for all of Western Europe) because of a special constellation around the Northpole!
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Langerzug wrote:
Weather forecasts are changing in the good direction!
Possibly up to 50 cm's Saturday for Nordstau areas! (=Arlberg)
@Langerzug, Hope you are right but on my Bergfex app it says 10cm at 2500m for Saturday, where are you looking?
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Consensus between multiple forecast sites seems to be 20-30cm, though some are suggesting little precipitation.
Great skiing this morning - nice grippy surface and quiet. Foggy over in Zürs, which kept the soft Zürsians inside - on the first lap of Zürsertali, I did not sight another person from the time I left Seekopf unload until the end of the tuck back into Zürs. Now back in St Anton and the weather seems to be clearing.
@nunex, Cheers, was only joking, any time in the mountains is fine......arriving on 4th, hope it snows some before then.
Hi Mark
I'm arriving with a group of 6 buddies on the 4th as well. They go home on the Wednesday (8th), and I'm staying on till the 11th to witness all this new snow from the much heralded likely early March weather event here....
Would you be interested in meeting up for a ski maybe??
Just pm me if interested, ditto to any other SHeads who may be about btw
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@horgand, Could work late in the week, we'll be skiing 4-10th I just need to see how my left knee plays out, I had some issues at Christmas (old ski injury, non ligament just bone on bone lacking fluid so can be painful) and hoping it is OK but as that week wore on it gave me more hassle, have been doing more exercises and certainly feels better now than on the run into that week but see how it works out. Keep in touch maybe, what sort of stuff you doing? PM me if preferred.
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Was meant to be back out in St Anton this Sunday but things have altered not just the weather so hope to be back late March and into mid April WHEN THE SNOW WILL BE BACK
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Not looking optimistic on the snow front. The forecast on the St Anton site suggests "Weak snowfall may temporarily occur" which is pretty much in line with the various models. Looks like a retour d'est in the southern alps but not much on the north side. Seems likely to be dry for the next 10 days or so but we can always hope for a change! Currently no sign that the SSW event is bringing winter weather to the alps.
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munich_irish wrote:
Not looking optimistic on the snow front. The forecast on the St Anton site suggests "Weak snowfall may temporarily occur" which is pretty much in line with the various models. Looks like a retour d'est in the southern alps but not much on the north side. Seems likely to be dry for the next 10 days or so but we can always hope for a change! Currently no sign that the SSW event is bringing winter weather to the alps.
Really?
Snow-forecast.com are showing 12cm of fresh snow falling in St Anton just tonight, and about 16 throughout this weekend. Do you not think this will materialise!?
I'm heading off in 2 weeks and I'm getting angsty now....
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, did not cause me to question the Argentinian description, but on their website:
