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The Arlberg Snow Report 2022/2023 (Dec 2 - April 23)

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Came across a superb video featuring local riders in the Arlberg backcountry: "The Arlberg Effekt". Enjoy


http://youtube.com/v/dDC3O27ua7c
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@ScarlettInSpace, what kind of standard are you?
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kitenski wrote:
@ScarlettInSpace, what kind of standard are you?


I can ski up to an easy black but generally don’t enjoy blacks or ungroomed, my husband boards and goes everywhere Very Happy
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Markymark29 wrote:
Great day today. @stanton, you are clueless and should keep your negativity to yourself,


This is from somone I believe has not skied the last 2 seasons which btw had the most snow (Powder) in December/January. Coronan Xmas/New year was probably the best in the previous 10 seasons !

I will continue to voice what happens ...Thanks

OK Folks just to catch up as was out of town

Last Thursday Dec 29 LECH

Blue Piste 200 exit from the Kriegerhorn-Bergstation

The Lech Cops are looking for a Hit and Run .. 3 Skiers severely assaulted a snowborder (27yrs) on the Piste . There was an initial collision between the snow boarder & one skier . Then it escalated .. The snowboarded was Hospitalised..

Im not sure if they found the Skiers yet but here is the Police description



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St Anton

Also last Thusday afternoon a 47yr Belgium man died...

He came of the left side of Riffel 1 Piste fell 20metres down and hit a tree & rock head on.. He died at the scene .

https://tirol.orf.at/stories/3188332/

https://www.nieuwsblad.be/cnt/dmf20221230_94811540

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Maybe something coming from Jan 11th but that is a longz wayz off Sad



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@ScarlettInSpace, unfortunately the "must do" run is closed, Madloch is a semi groomed ski route but no snow cannons so needs good natural snow which is not in abundance currently it often doesnt open until January even in good snow years. The other really nice run in the Lech / Zürs area is Zürsertalli (take the Muggengratbahn chairlift) its a red piste with a steepish pitch to start off, great scenery usually great snow and there is a small restaurant Flexenhäusl tucked away at the bottom of the run (next to the road) which is worth a visit. Dont know about apres in Lech (suspect more champagne & canapes) but it is worth the trip to St Anton to visit the Mooserwirt (next to the piste just above the Galzig lift station) ski & poles have a habit of going missing so pay out the couple of Euros to put them in the "cloakroom", There are post buses back to Lech until around 19:00 (they go from the train station not the bus place next to the Rendl lift). Lots of other similar places nearby Krazy Kanguruh, Sennhutte, Heustadl.
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Awesome thanks @munich_irish, will deffo head to St Anton to wrap up one of the days then Smile
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kitenski wrote:
@ScarlettInSpace, what kind of standard are you?


I can ski up to an easy black but generally don’t enjoy blacks or ungroomed, my husband boards and goes everywhere Very Happy


I'd spend a morning skiing around the Zurs area (its high and snow usually good), there are some nice reds off the Zürserseebahn and Seekopfbahn, do a few laps of those 2, then head up Muggengratbahn and ski the blue back down to the same lift, then go up again and take the long red Muggengrat (note you'll maybe need to tuck the last bit as it flattens out into town). Only thing you'll need to bus between Zurs and Lech if Madloch is shut.

If you don't fancy busing it then a day in Warth is also worth it - take the Auenfeldjet lift over there and back.
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Fab thanks @kitenski, all sounds good Smile
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January 10

Snowbomb for France & looks like Der Arlberg will finally get a decent dump ... Could build up into something special in the coming days ... Very Happy Very Happy

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Does the forecast still look good for a dump next week? Does it look like its cooling and staying that way going forward? I arrive in Anton tomorrow,
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First day. It is character-building.

A mixture of rain & snow up top and rain at the village level. Predictably, the snow is a variant of semi-frozen slurpee. But… it is fantastic being back here and on skis for the first time in 3 months.
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Right now it is raining/sleet/snow 1300/2200/2800 depending what elevation your at Very Happy Very Happy

It will remain mild (above freezing next few days)



From 11mins Winter returns (maybe)


http://youtube.com/v/_4BBuFsgqHY
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@ulmerhutte, Enjoy the trip, we had a fabulous time 24.12 - 31.12.22. 10cm snow due up high Thursday, should freshen things up.
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Markymark29 wrote:
@ulmerhutte, Enjoy the trip, we had a fabulous time 24.12 - 31.12.22. 10cm snow due up high Thursday, should freshen things up.


Glad you had a fabulous time; I'd say we had no better than a very good time across the same period. There's a lot of icy pistes about, even very high up. And the lower parts involve knee-deep piles of artificial icing sugar on top of icy pistes. The snow cover is very thin, there are bare patches on pistes, and St Anton itself is brown/green. On the plus side, apart from two days, the slopes were generally quiet and there weren't queues for lifts. And there was space in the Moose.
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@James the Last, but Lech is still white. Nothing really unusual for this time of year, it happens every now and then. Remembering 1988/89, 1991, 2014-2016 (and no, I'm not denying climate change)
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Thanks, @Markymark29.

Much more pleasant day today. Sunshine in the morning. While it is now (2pm) cloudy, visibility remains good. The surface is fast but enjoyable to ski.

Alas, there is a downside… every man, and both his dogs, came out to ski today. Lech/Zürs stopped selling day tickets. Fortunately there are many fair-weather skiers and long-lunchers. It is now fairly quiet. Maybe 20 people on Kandahar a few minutes ago.

I am going to download at the end of the day. Did the Galzig home run this morning. It was insane. Too many people way out of their depth, spearing off in random directions. Not worth it.
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@James the Last, We stayed high and didn't ski below Gampen/ Zammermoos bottom station lift level, caught Galzig lift down rather than chew through the mush at low level. In fairness we didn't go with any high expectations, have skied the region for many years and knew what it would likely be like, and tbph we were pleasantly surprised. We weren't looking for mega mileages or off-piste on this trip, it's the first time we'd skied since March 20 lockdown so we were quite happy getting our legs back and cruising pistes and enjoying the mountain views, didn't see any brown areas on pistes we skied. We would have gone around to Zurs/ Lech/ Warth but given that Madloch/ Zug wasn't accessible couldn't be bothered the snow in Anton was great for our needs on this trip. Plan on being much more adventurous in early March. wink
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@ulmerhutte,
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I am going to download at the end of the day. Did the Galzig home run this morning. It was insane. Too many people way out of their depth, spearing off in random directions. Not worth it.

Yup, agree 100%, crazy.
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@James the Last, that was my experience in Zermatt last week. Rain before our arrival and all that. Luck of the draw. At least I could get to Cervinia for a couple of days (south facing pistes, was awesome)
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@James the Last, but Lech is still white. Nothing really unusual for this time of year, it happens every now and then. Remembering 1988/89, 1991, 2014-2016 (and no, I'm not denying climate change)

Yep, I remember on several occasions having to trudge, carrying skis, over the grass covered hill from piste 50 near Heustadl tp the Kangaroo. Would have been around that time late 80s early 90s. And it would have been mid season February.
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@ulmerhutte, Yes, just heard that indeed Lech/Zürs was limiting dayticketsales for the 2nd time this season. And at a lower number than the normal maximum of 14000 persons
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I don't think this has anything to do with climate change; it's just weather. You cannot draw conclusions about climate change from the weather in one fortnight one year.

The booby prize, IMO, went to Christmas Eve when there had been about 12" of stodgy porridge dumped on the slopes. I've really never skied anything like that before!

And the fact is, you could have a perfectly nice week's holiday in St Anton with plenty of skiing; for all that the off piste was limited, the pistes were a bit icy, there were plenty of bare patches, and the town was brown. But it's St Anton, and we had rain at resort level the last time I was there at about the same time (and we had loooooads of snow too that time).
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Storm incomming !!



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Snowing gently at village level. A dusting, maybe 1cm, on the deck. Temps are marginal at present (@8am) - 0C in the village, and -5C on the Galzig. The webcams suggest fairly strong winds. It is going to be a character-building day…
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@ulmerhutte, looks like snow for the next few days
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ulmerhutte wrote:
Yeah, the vibe is different during a big event, but one that I remember well & positively was the 2004 FIS DH. Three Austrians: Maier, Eberharter, and some other Austrian dude filled the podium. The presentation was in the carpark of the Schwartz Adler. To say there were some excited and excitable Austrians in town would be an understatement, but in a good way. The place was partying!


Johann Grugger was 3rd. 7 out of the top ten were Austrians. Those were the days (for Austria).

https://www.derstandard.at/story/1569926/ergebnis-abfahrt-st-anton

Looks like the snow is coming.
https://www.bergfex.at/stanton-stchristoph/wetter/berg/
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The Big Snow (if it pans out) will come on Thursday & Friday with freeze level 1000M & 1500M respectively

I doubt any snow off the official pistes will hang around long (where it's grass now) the ground is just to warm ..

I saw some spring flowers the other day Shocked

Guaranteed High Avalanche risk and Lift Closures throughout and after (weekend)
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Wepowder is suggesting over 1.5m of snow before the weekend for the upper slopes https://wepowder.com/en/st-anton-am-arlberg#valluga. The automatic forecast tends to be on the optimistic side but even so it appears the snow drought is over snowHead Might mean avalanche issues though.
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And Snowforecast is suggesting 1.5m of snow between Sunday and next Wednesday...
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And Meteoblue is saying 14 days of snowfall as off today Cool
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Looks like winter has arrived, great news.
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Fabulous morning. Maybe 10 - 15cm in the village and closer to 30cm on the Galzig.

A joy to ski fresh snow after a week on ice.

Upper mountain lifts currently closed, as is Steißbachtal. Still snowing.

St Anton has taken on its accustomed winter cloak.
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Great to hear this ... hope it keeps going ... arriving Saturday Toofy Grin
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@ulmerhutte, Wow, enjoy. Toofy Grin
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@ulmerhutte, looks good on the webcams cant do this weekend but the following one seems to be on Very Happy hopefully by then Madloch etc will be open

I am sure @stanton, will be on soon with top secret info on the Steissbachtal, personally I avoid it as always too many people on a narrow piste, Kandahar is a much better run but know many find this a problem but I suspect the avalanche issue might be back this season the wet weather might mean the perfect conditions for glide slides on the grassy slopes.
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Folks

So far between 20-50cms new

Galzig reporting 50cms new in last 24 hours.

Zürs 40cms




Lets hope it continues otherwise

Never mind you can't ski in the Alps this winter. Think about the empty rivers in spring and all the failed harvests this summer all over Europe. Shocked Shocked

Oh yeah !



Seriously this much at once has the potential to cause a lot of problems ...High Avi Level , Night time Road Closures Travelling etc..
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Lol Stanton. You're never appeased.
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@stanton, make up your mind, one day there is no snow the next too much. You are completely clueless about weather forecasts, have a look at what some Dutch folk are saying https://wepowder.com/en/st-anton-am-arlberg#valluga maybe 1m at the top of the Valluga , 20cm in the village where the roads are. Perfect for opening the pistes no sign of any snowmaggedon!


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@munich_irish, Steißbachtal is important to me because it allows me to ski Bachseite. People were ducking the ropes, but a) it is a stupid risk, & b) I have seen ski patrol at the end of Steißbachtal pulling tickets of miscreants.

Kandahar was populated by VW Beetle-sized moguls by afternoon.
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@ulmerhutte, understand about Bachseite, the piste is no big loss (except to those who are too nervous to ski Kandahar) . The moguls can grow to an impressive size snowHead
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