Poster: A snowHead
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Hi,
Newbie here - I've just bought some 2nd hand 2015 Black Crows Orb 179s, the person I got them from must have small feet, as the bindings won't accommodate my boots.
So I need to move the bindings - that's no great sweat - unscrew them, drill some new holes, and I'm done.
BUT - where to place my boot.....
I have another pair for piste days - these will be for off-piste (that I'm not the good at) and piste touring around to find the off-piste.
Suggestions I've found suggest maybe -1cm for predominantly off-piste, but does Black Crows make that adjustment for me as it's a largely off-piste ski (I think)?
Further complication gets thrown in when I read that sometimes the arrow marking the centerline is off - mine is 77.5cm from the tail.
The current Orb (https://www.black-crows.com/gb/en/p/orb/100992-black-yellow-vg.html) suggest a mounting point of -10cm, which would come out at 79.5cm
I can't find the same data for 2015, but the other years I have found are all between -9.3 and -10.
Which do I trust - the specs or the mark on the skis?
All thoughts welcomed!
Pics:
https://photos.app.goo.gl/35JFsWFCH2aYfmbM7
https://photos.app.goo.gl/zQshZtFWTZtcEbkZ7
Last edited by Poster: A snowHead on Fri 18-02-22 21:56; edited 1 time in total
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Just email the factory and ask 'em.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@jimxbob, welcome to shs.
bear in mind you want to offset your bindings to compensate for the natural splay of your feet.
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Ah!
This is my first pair of fat skis...
I noticed that the bindings were not installed perfectly centrally - I thought this was just sloppy, but I take it that it's deliberate?
I'm really not sure I'd notice... How do I decide how much?
Cheers
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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@jimxbob, sorry, I was joking, although it has been done, and some boots have been produced with that built in (I've had a pair, not sure I could notice).
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@jimxbob, welcome to shs.
bear in mind you want to offset your bindings to compensate for the natural splay of your feet. |
Unless you mount your bindings centrally on the skis (left to right), you'll end up with left and right skis, which is just a pain.
@jimxbob[b], like [b]@spyderjon says, ask Black Crows. Or just mount on the line, that's their recommended location and most likely will work for you. Bear in mind that skis often don't measure to their stated length (so the midpoint my not be 79.5), and check that the lines are in the same place on both skis. Also you need some separation between the existing holes and new ones, otherwise the screws may pull out. Depending on how different your boot size is, it might be easier to mount just off the line to avoid this. Don't forget to seal the old holes, too.
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@mgrolf, just poor humour on my part
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Don't joke with a newbie - I believed you! I was going to mark the skis up as left and right!
The skis measure 1cm shorter than stated.
I have emailed black crows - I'll be amazed if they support skis that old, but we'll see how their customer service is!
I've looked at my piste skis and noticed that I've got the bindings set well forward of the mounting mark and never noticed - I may just not be good enough to notice the difference!
Thanks for all your help!
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@jimxbob, so you actually have a boot mounting line? It's not a centre line and will be somewhat towards the back of the ski. Sounds like yours is about right and that lines up with the line on the side of your your boot soles - "normalement", as the French often say, about dodgy building works.
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I'm going on 27th, so I will have a play with the track on the piste skis for sure, but I need to mount the other bindings before I go.
I have a bit mounting arrow on the ski, but it's at -12cm, versus the suggested from the website of -10cm for this year's model at least.
I'll see what black crows say, if they come back to me.....
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