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Selva/Italy first time..

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Staying at Val Gardena from this weekend, I’m a blue/red skier and going with a total beginner. These are the areas I’ve been recommended to ski. Would you add any to the list?
Plan De Gralba
Dantercrëies
S.Cristina
Hidden valley
Alta Badia & Alp d’suisi

Based in Wiesenheim apartments 5 min from the Nives lift & resort centre.

Also besides skiing, is their anything cool to do in the area. Casino, walks, lakes, Indoor pool, particular bars/restaurants to visit? Thanks


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I suppose a lot depends on how quickly the beginner progresses and where their instructor takes them during lessons. Dantercepies is the first significant step-up from the nursery slopes and after Resaccia. Stay on Dantercepies left, the right split is Cir which is black. Dantercepies left in decent conditions should be OK for a tidy first weeker if taken slowly.

Otherwise you're on buses looking for areas of blue runs only. The bus to Plan de Gralba is one option. Alpe di Suisi would be the very best opion. It's a high plateau with plenty of blue runs and great places to eat.
Over the ridge on exiting Dantercepes gondola you'll find the run to Colfosco. There are a good few cruisey blues over there. Remember that you'll require full Superski passes to go over there. The local pass only covers the VG valley.

The hidden valley would be a serious stretch for a beginner.

BTW, Selva is one of the best resorts in Europe in my opinion. Madeye-Smiley

Just a suggestion. If you rename this thread 'Selva First Time' you may get more replies. wink


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There is an Ice Rink :: http://www.pranives.it/icerink/index.html :: If you haven't seen a live ice hockey match, there should one or two on during your week

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Luislkeller
La Stua near the glass bridge
Bar Saltos next to the ski school
Kronestube
Greens (was an Irish pub)
Cafe Mozart - great cakes....
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+ 1 for Alpe di Suisi, as it's got loads of great, wide meadow runs with some great views onto the Sasslong and some superb food options. You can't ski there without going via Monte Pana and getting a bus, or skiing into Ortisei from the top of Seceda, which will be a bit tough for a beginner, so I would suggest getting the bus from the Centre of Selva to Ortisei, then jump on the red bubble lifts (lift number 1 on the new Alpe di Siusi piste map), don't accidentally go to the Seceda side lift, but it's all well sign posted.

There's more than a day's worth of skiing for your level at Seis, and you get the weird sensation of skiing in a wholly different country as well; the people on that side consider themselves Ladin first, German / Tyrolean second, and Italian (which they geographically are) a distant, distant third...

I can personally recommend the food at Malga Schgaguler Schwaige, which is short drop down from the lift up from Ortisei, and features food grown and raised by the family who own the farm in which it sits. If covid restrictions don't put a massive spanner in the works I'll be there myself as of the 16th!
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I'll be there myself as of the 16th!


...and we'll be there on the 22nd. wink
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@nba2005uk, Also, if you're heading for Alpe di Suisi, you may see 'Seiser Alm' sign posted, it's the same place. Most villages and areas in the valley are dual named. Ladin and Italian. Madeye-Smiley
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Appreciate the tips guys. Looking to book a few lessons with a ski school out there. Any you guys would recommend?
I’ve been skiing 3 times now but never had a lesson - would I benefit from 2/3 hrs personal lessons in your opinion?
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Mollerski wrote:
@nba2005uk, Also, if you're heading for Alpe di Suisi, you may see 'Seiser Alm' sign posted, it's the same place. Most villages and areas in the valley are dual named. Ladin and Italian. Madeye-Smiley


Well 'Seiser Alm' is German! Laughing In the Val Gardena valley (or Grödental wink ) a lot of German is spoken, being part of the Süd-Tirol. Many villages actually have three names, Italian, German and Ladin e.g Ortisei/Sankt Ulrich/Urtijëi. Madeye-Smiley
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nba2005uk wrote:
Appreciate the tips guys. Looking to book a few lessons with a ski school out there. Any you guys would recommend?
I’ve been skiing 3 times now but never had a lesson - would I benefit from 2/3 hrs personal lessons in your opinion?


SSI is fine, if a bit impersonal. You will almost definitely get a lesson from a local, likely named oswald or runggaldier...they like to talk about Ladin culture, so that's a good icebreaker.

I would say for a beginner to head straight to Plan Gralba. There's enough up there to occupy them for a week, including a couple of long, winding blue runs to skier's right from the top. Just watch out of a couple of red chutes that get really icy.

Regarding Alpe di Siusi, I believe that there's now a blue run that will get you off the top of the bubble lift from Ortisei. In the past there was a tricky red bit at the top -- just a couple hundred meters -- but it was a bit steep. The bus from Monte Pana takes you to some very easy slopes so that's probably a better option.
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nba2005uk wrote:
I’ve been skiing 3 times now but never had a lesson - would I benefit from 2/3 hrs personal lessons in your opinion?


If you've been skiing 30 times the answer would probably still be yes. If you have the money, absolutely book lessons. If you don't have the money, see what you can save elsewhere and absolutely book lessons.
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Not sure if I’m being stupid here but I’ve been recommended to go to Alpe di Suisi for the most blue runs but looking at the map there doesn’t seem to be many, and not sure how to get to the ‘Spitzbuhl area’ which tends to have to longest blue runs?
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Alpe di siusi is ideal for beginners. True on the map the pistes are marked red for some peculiar reason, but they are so easy. Very relaxing skiing.
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@nba2005uk, Locations in the area have two names (German and Italian) ; Alpe di Siusi/Seiser Alm are the same place. To get to the area from Selva, get the bus in Selva for Ortesei ; then up the lift in Ortesei to Alpe di Siusi/Seiser Alm and head for Spitzbuhl.

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Forgot about the LADIN language !!!


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Locations in the area can have three names (Ladin, German and Italian)
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Legend. wrote:
nba2005uk wrote:
I’ve been skiing 3 times now but never had a lesson - would I benefit from 2/3 hrs personal lessons in your opinion?


If you've been skiing 30 times the answer would probably still be yes. If you have the money, absolutely book lessons. If you don't have the money, see what you can save elsewhere and absolutely book lessons.


This. Get lessons. A week of group lessons would also be good. And that is talking from experience, I regret not doing so when I started out. I was self-taught to the level where I could get down anything pisted with reasonable control. But it cost me years and £££s to unlearn all the terrible habits I had formed.
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@nba2005uk, Been many times and never made it to Alpe di Siusi, seems like a massive fag involving buses etc to get there and there's so much to explore on your doorstep.

Plan de Gralba(PdG)/Piz Seteur definitely best and closest blues for you but with a total beginner in tow avoid the "wall of death" which is the main slope from the top of Ciampinoi going anti-clockwise (green) towards PdG: It's a very busy, steep, short pitch and carnage most of the time, instead loop round to the right under the cable car and take the quieter slope down to PdG - this route is a bit narrow and steepish at the top but, crucially, it's quiet so a beginner can just pick their way slowly down. As a bonus, it goes past Baita Ciadinat too which is a lovely food stop.

If you get bored of PdG and the beginner is finding their ski legs, head up Dantercepies, cruise down to Colfosco which is gorgeous, from there you can cross to Corvara - the area between Corvara, Arabba & La Villa (Alta Badia) is great for cruisy blues. Or go beyond PdG to the area above Canazei (Passo Sella to Belvedere) which is lovely too, the reds there are mostly on the fairly blue side, don't go down Diego though, that's properly steep!

Hidden Valley is quite a long day from Selva, the main problem being that by the time you get to the Lagazuoi Cable car, there's often a 45min-1hr queue to get on, that's having queued for 30 mins for a taxi to get up there from Armentarola - although we've only been at 1/2 term so prob much quieter next week but getting there with enough time prob beyond a beginner - as is the Hidden Valley itself tbh. It's not a difficult run but it's often very busy.

Hope that helps!
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jma wrote:
@nba2005uk,

Plan de Gralba(PdG)/Piz Seteur definitely best and closest blues for you but with a total beginner in tow avoid the "wall of death" which is the main slope from the top of Ciampinoi going anti-clockwise (green) towards PdG: It's a very busy, steep, short pitch and carnage most of the time, instead loop round to the right under the cable car and take the quieter slope down to PdG - this route is a bit narrow and steepish at the top but, crucially, it's quiet so a beginner can just pick their way slowly down. As a bonus, it goes past Baita Ciadinat too which is a lovely food stop.


We try and get on this red first thing as it is not too cut up and covered moguls yet. Always good entertainment coming up on the chair to the side of that red.
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Well 'Seiser Alm' is German! Laughing In the Val Gardena valley (or Grödental wink ) a lot of German is spoken, being part of the Süd-Tirol. Many villages actually have three names, Italian, German and Ladin e.g Ortisei/Sankt Ulrich/Urtijëi. Madeye-Smiley


You are correct, german is spoken, but not a lot. The predominant language (90% in the VG valley) is Ladin. Smile
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