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I also would like to inquire whether anyone can point me to adult focused ski carving technique camps (or at least experienced instructors) in the Alps?
Would prefer a camp, as costs are a factor for me. My past experience with instructors has also been somewhat dissapointing, hence would much prefer someone with focus on carving technique and familiar with challenges of learning to carve as an adult.
Austria, Italy or Eastern Europe would be ideal.
Many thanks.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Not answering your question but what skis have you got?
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Not a camp, but if you are in Bansko, try Snow Peaks Ski school (just opposite the lift car park). Ask for Alexandra, she is Albert Popov’s sister and was a ~35 point FIS racer in her own right.
I had a fabulous two hour lesson with her and would highly recommend. I might have time to expand upon it later, but I have felt that some UK based ski instructors (who run camps) are rather dogmatic in their approach. She solved a problem I had been struggling with for years.
As an aside, I have had some very good ESF lessons in France by asking for a young instructor who just finished their racing career. Some of those young thrusters are very good.
Next… ski camps….
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@ZuikiZ, why specifically carving? There are plenty of technique camps in the Alps, but I think you'll struggle to find one focused on carving, as it's just one technique, that is only useful in some fairly particular conditions and circumstances. If you post where you're thinking of skiing, you'll hopefully get some recommendations for good instructors who will focus a lesson on what you're looking for.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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For ski camps, I would say that one of THE best to ski with is Dave Morris. In particular, he normally runs a L2A camp in late June. This is ideal for trying a bit of GS skiing if that interests you? There are often a mix of young athletes and parents.
These camps are also ideal for meeting people. I’ve subsequently taken part in privately organised weeks with Amanda Pirie, who I strongly recommend.
There is of course also snoworks, they do some carving dedicated camps too. Typically a bit more expensive, especially the all inclusive deals. I’ve very much enjoyed skiing with them, but as alluded to above, on occasion, they can be a little dogmatic IME.
Last edited by Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do. on Sat 1-01-22 18:57; edited 1 time in total
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| rjs wrote: |
| Not answering your question but what skis have you got? |
Have multiple skis. Currently on amateur slalom skis (few years old K2 Velocity), but I don't like them and thinking about a replacement once spring sales get going.
It is a difficult topic, as I struggle with some skis to the point where I cannot find my balance. Just recently tried Atomic X9 175 rentals, which have rave reviews, but I was not able to find either tip or tail on these. Had to go back to the rental shop to pick up Fischer SCs, which were way more skiable and lots of fun after a few runs.
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P.s I understand that the top level of Italian ski instruction is one of the very best for ski racing.
I have no particular contacts for Italy, but would recommend talking to Simon at the European Ski School in L2A:
https://www.europeanskischool.eu/about-us/instructors
Dual qualified in the UK and Italy and a great skier, teacher and bloke. I believe they sometimes work in ITA as well.
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| sugarmoma666 wrote: |
| @ZuikiZ, why specifically carving? There are plenty of technique camps in the Alps, but I think you'll struggle to find one focused on carving, as it's just one technique, that is only useful in some fairly particular conditions and circumstances. If you post where you're thinking of skiing, you'll hopefully get some recommendations for good instructors who will focus a lesson on what you're looking for. |
In short - personal preference. I ski mostly groomers.
I mainly ski in Italy near Milan (Monterosa, Bormio, Passo Tonale) or Austria (Stubai and Stubaital resorts, also Kitzsteihorn at the end of the season).
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| ZuikiZ wrote: |
| rjs wrote: |
| Not answering your question but what skis have you got? |
Have multiple skis. Currently on amateur slalom skis (few years old K2 Velocity), but I don't like them and thinking about a replacement once spring sales get going.
It is a difficult topic, as I struggle with some skis to the point where I cannot find my balance. Just recently tried Atomic X9 175 rentals, which have rave reviews, but I was not able to find either tip or tail on these. Had to go back to the rental shop to pick up Fischer SCs, which were way more skiable and lots of fun after a few runs. |
I’ve always got on well with Rossignol Hero’s of various kinds. You probably want to avoid the bottom of the range, which from memory are rather soft with a slightly shorter radius, and try the Elite ones. Depending upon how you get on, the Rossi FSI slalom skis used to be regarded as the easiest of their class to start with.
If you start really going down the rabbit hole, you will also end up obsessing about diamond files and early morning time ups as well!
Happy skiing!
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You know it makes sense.
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@ZuikiZ, If I was teaching an adult to carve turns then I would want them to be on something that would work at low speeds on a fairly flat slope with a small sidecut radius. You might want to do a lesson on something like the Fischer SC even if you want to buy something different later.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Poster: A snowHead
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| JamesHJ wrote: |
| ZuikiZ wrote: |
| rjs wrote: |
| Not answering your question but what skis have you got? |
Have multiple skis. Currently on amateur slalom skis (few years old K2 Velocity), but I don't like them and thinking about a replacement once spring sales get going.
It is a difficult topic, as I struggle with some skis to the point where I cannot find my balance. Just recently tried Atomic X9 175 rentals, which have rave reviews, but I was not able to find either tip or tail on these. Had to go back to the rental shop to pick up Fischer SCs, which were way more skiable and lots of fun after a few runs. |
I’ve always got on well with Rossignol Hero’s of various kinds. You probably want to avoid the bottom of the range, which from memory are rather soft with a slightly shorter radius, and try the Elite ones. Depending upon how you get on, the Rossi FSI slalom skis used to be regarded as the easiest of their class to start with.
If you start really going down the rabbit hole, you will also end up obsessing about diamond files and early morning time ups as well!
Happy skiing! |
I fancy Dynastar FIS 165 SL skis, the ones that Noel is skiing in the WC. I am a tall skinny guy, just a tad shorter than him. I just can't find these skis in any rental shops and would love to try them. I read that Dynastar / Rossi are the same ski just a different topsheet.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| ZuikiZ wrote: |
| JamesHJ wrote: |
| ZuikiZ wrote: |
| rjs wrote: |
| Not answering your question but what skis have you got? |
Have multiple skis. Currently on amateur slalom skis (few years old K2 Velocity), but I don't like them and thinking about a replacement once spring sales get going.
It is a difficult topic, as I struggle with some skis to the point where I cannot find my balance. Just recently tried Atomic X9 175 rentals, which have rave reviews, but I was not able to find either tip or tail on these. Had to go back to the rental shop to pick up Fischer SCs, which were way more skiable and lots of fun after a few runs. |
I’ve always got on well with Rossignol Hero’s of various kinds. You probably want to avoid the bottom of the range, which from memory are rather soft with a slightly shorter radius, and try the Elite ones. Depending upon how you get on, the Rossi FSI slalom skis used to be regarded as the easiest of their class to start with.
If you start really going down the rabbit hole, you will also end up obsessing about diamond files and early morning time ups as well!
Happy skiing! |
I fancy Dynastar FIS 165 SL skis, the ones that Noel is skiing in the WC. I am a tall skinny guy, just a tad shorter than him. I just can't find these skis in any rental shops and would love to try them. I read that Dynastar / Rossi are the same ski just a different topsheet. |
Rossi do summer ski tests in the glaciers I think?
Some of the above mentioned ski instructors (and posters!) can get ‘club’ prices for these skis btw.
Edit: I am wildly in love with my Rossi hero FIS skis. My understanding apropos the dynastar models is the same as yours.
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| rjs wrote: |
| @ZuikiZ, You could ask if Technosport do demo rentals. |
FIS skis do not come with demo bindings, no? Would be impossible to set the bindings for different boot sole lenghts.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Would be impossible to set the bindings for different boot sole lengths.
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They managed very well at the Oktoberfest, only took them five mins to swap between sole lengths on the Dynastar SL FIS skis
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@ZuikiZ, The plates are pre-drilled, you just unscrew the bindings and move them to a different set of holes. I have skied on a demo pair of Dynastar WC SL indoors in the UK, as have several other Snowheads at an Octobertest day, they were not fitted with demo bindings.
I don't think the Technosport website is complete, they had all brands of race ski in stock the last time I was in the shop.
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Just out of curiosity, what’s a demo binding?
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| JamesHJ wrote: |
| Just out of curiosity, what’s a demo binding? |
The one which is adjustable for different ski boot sizes without tools.
They are not as sturdy as fixed bindings, and are mainly used for rental skis.
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Thanks!
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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Stomp It tutorials do a piste focused camp in Switzerland, looks fun but pricey…
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