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According to BC rules for us foreigners it's supposed to be passport (they say the document used to enter Canada). In practise I've been using my UK drivers license without issue
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@Saintsman, ok good to know.
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@VolklAttivaS5, ya driver's license not been an issue for me in the 2 plus weeks I've been here
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@VolklAttivaS5, yes they do , im the same not gonna risk losing my passport , do carry my DL at all times , just the I phone photo avoids having to get multiple things out at once , no one has questioned it yet
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@Dabber, ok thanks, yes my passport is already well worn I don’t want it in and out of a pocket a zillion times a day it can stay locked up in the hotel room safe.
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I have a photo driving licence which expired last year which I'll take as well - if that works the first time I'll stick to that and if it gets lost it's not a problem!
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Returned from whistler on Thursday tested positive on Friday for covid19
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VolklAttivaS5, we've always just used photo driving licence for ID purposes - passport often left in the vehicle/ hotel room. Madeye-Smiley
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Returned from whistler on Thursday tested positive on Friday for covid19


Result - you got your hol and still got out!
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I have a photo driving licence which expired last year which I'll take as well - if that works the first time I'll stick to that and if it gets lost it's not a problem!


Most places really check - this is not a cursory quick glance that you might expect. It's taken very seriously, which surprised me
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narbs wrote:
I have a photo driving licence which expired last year which I'll take as well - if that works the first time I'll stick to that and if it gets lost it's not a problem!


Most places really check - this is not a cursory quick glance that you might expect. It's taken very seriously, which surprised me
yes we had photo copies of passport and driving licence but some places required originals so binned the photo copies and driving license was accepted everywhere with NHS vaccination app
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@Saintsman, defo taken seriously , but no one is checking the expiry date on your DL , and out of interest where didn't accept iPhone photo and demanded original ??
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Longhorn twice, and one other place in town
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EU Vax passport and Irish DL ok ??
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Yep, will be fine
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Saintsman wrote:
narbs wrote:
I have a photo driving licence which expired last year which I'll take as well - if that works the first time I'll stick to that and if it gets lost it's not a problem!


Most places really check - this is not a cursory quick glance that you might expect. It's taken very seriously, which surprised me


Cheers - will definitely have the current one, and will take my passport on day one.
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Longhorn twice, and one other place in town
ha ha longhorn probably the only establishment I didn't frequent snowHead
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Yeah, well it and Blacks have both gone downhill in the last few years. Too much style over substance
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Bit of a ski report from Canada. Flew from Toronto to Calgary and some friends flew in from the UK via Vancouver. (all vaccinated some with recent covid so no need for tests on arrival and some with tests on arrival that were back in 24 hours.)

We stayed just outside of Panorama BC. Last snowfall about 3 days before we arrived. A friend and I went to Kicking Horse and Revelstoke.

Panorama: quiet as on the weekdays and gets busy (think quiet weeks France) at weekends. There were times we skied for 5 - 10 minutes and didn’t see anyone else. Snow was excellent and there are some excellent tracks to be had with a short hike from the summit.

Kicking Horse: Now Im not unfamiliar or averse to steep but Be Nice please! me, some of the drop ins were crazy steep. Thankfully recent fresh snow but I had one big 20 - 30m slide (sorry cant be more precise as was too busy trying to stop!) We did a small hike, found some ropes and then chickened out and did an “easier” route with a sketchy drop in!

Revelstoke: Also steep but not at KH level. We hiked from the top of the mountain to the North Bowl which had amazing snow. I loved the initial drop in so much that I left my skis some 10-20 meters along the initial drop and had to climb back up to get them. We also skied a double black diamond called ‘Kill The Banker’ or ‘Save The Banker’ which has got to be the hardest run of my life. Icy, rocks, tree stumps…the works. I have never side slipped anything this much, ever, not even when I was a newb. Mate (lifelong skier) felt similar and was gobsmacked it can even be categorized as a run!

All in all a great trip. Where we skied the standard of skiers was pretty high and there were old geezers dropping into steep stuff in the way a fat kid hits the biscuit aisle at the supermarket. Mountain food was ok from a French alps viewpoint but not a patch on Italy. We purchased daily lift passes so it worked out expensive from that respect. Equipment hire was about the same. OH didn’t love the fact that we had a lot of faff getting to the mountain every morning.

Would I go again? Probably yes. But maybe stick to some smaller resorts as snow is way better. We didn’t get fresh tracks anywhere, either live in the mountain or go to Japan if you want that everyday.
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Rishie, Sounds like you had a good time, told you Kill The Banker was fun Toofy Grin

For the snow and fresh tracks go later - first time we did it, we never saw the sun after the first day of a 2+ week trip, fresh snow each place we skied Madeye-Smiley
Deals can be had , even for a day or so in each place, on tickets - you just need to plan Madeye-Smiley
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So we arrived on AC851 from LHR to Calgary. Airport pretty quiet. you need to use self service kiosk to scan you passport and and answer some covid related questions and how long your staying for. It prints out another slip with photo of you which you take to immigration. Then the odd bit for us... we heard the officials say to other folks in front and to the side of us that they had been selected for testing and we walked away to collect our luggage with relief and high sprits.

Once we collected our bags we came up a short ramp where someone was taking the slip that was printed out from us and directing us either side of barrier tape out the exit. Well ours turned out to be the testing queue. It felt like we been cheated by the kiddie catcher from Chitty Chitty Bang Bang! Once tested they said 72 hours for the results!!

I spend the 2 hour bus trip to Banff quietly fuming. We arrived with snowfalling and thick snow on the roads. The drive announced our arrival to Banff by saying how epic the snow will be tomorrow. On the bus were 2 other British couples who asked him advice of where best to go in the morning so presumably some people are lucky enough to pass through.

Its a waiting game now for us. Just hope there's some pow stashes left
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@eat>sleep>ride>r, let us know how long it actually takes to get the result back. They probably say 72 hours to cover the worst case scenario.
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Folks, for ArriveCAN....where do you upload your recovery cert??
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@dazman, this is what @Saintsman advised me:

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There's nowhere to upload your positive proof in Arrivecan.

In Arrivecan you tick a box indicating that you've had COVID and will be traveling unde nthat method rather than a 72 hour test. You upload your Vax certificates.

At the airport checkin, they ask to see your Arrivecan receipt and will then ask for your 72 hour test. You tell them you're using a positive test result, hand that over together with your NHS email (we printed and laminated both along with lots of other docs to be sure).

That's it.

On arrival, if everything has hooked together correctly you will automatically bypass arrivals testing and be on your way
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I thought you still needed a negative PCR less than 72 hours old to enter Canada even if you did have a positive PCR 15-180 days ago (i.e. had Covid recently and recovered from it) ?
They still want you to be negative on entry I thought (?) but having Covid and recovered recently means you are exempt from being selected for the arrival test which is the one you need to stay in for and wait for the result.
Also recently they changed the Covid positive PCR to 10 days to 180 days ago instead of 15 days to 180 days ago.
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I thought you still needed a negative PCR less than 72 hours old to enter Canada even if you did have a positive PCR 15-180 days ago (i.e. had Covid recently and recovered from it) ?
They still want you to be negative on entry I thought (?) but having Covid and recovered recently means you are exempt from being selected for the arrival test which is the one you need to stay in for and wait for the result.
Also recently they changed the Covid positive PCR to 10 days to 180 days ago instead of 15 days to 180 days ago.


So did I ???
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VolklAttivaS5 wrote:
I thought you still needed a negative PCR less than 72 hours old to enter Canada even if you did have a positive PCR 15-180 days ago (i.e. had Covid recently and recovered from it) ?
They still want you to be negative on entry I thought (?) but having Covid and recovered recently means you are exempt from being selected for the arrival test which is the one you need to stay in for and wait for the result.
Also recently they changed the Covid positive PCR to 10 days to 180 days ago instead of 15 days to 180 days ago.


I don't think so, because the residual antibodies following Covid mean you can test +ve for a while after you stop being infectious (hence the ten day rule). So you present your proof of Covid test and your vax certificates instead.

From Canada's website:
'If you are now symptom-free, you can provide proof of a positive COVID-19 molecular test when crossing the border, instead of a negative one.'

https://travel.gc.ca/travel-covid/travel-restrictions/covid-vaccinated-travellers-entering-canada#pre-entry-testing
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@dazman, I’m sure you do I only looked at it a couple of days ago as I’ve got an absolutely stinking ‘cold’ at the moment so I’ve done a PCR to see if it’s Covid. If it comes out positive then that’s my arrival testing knocked on the head! There are some perks…
I don’t think I have it as all my lateral flows have been negative for days but I needed to do the PCR as symptomatic.
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@narbs, oh I see yes that would make sense actually. I will look again to see where I’ve gone wrong.
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@VolklAttivaS5, @dazman, my daughter tested positive a couple of weeks ago so I checked with the Consulate. THis is what they sent me:

'If you have been infected with COVID-19, but have since recovered and are no longer infectious you will be allowed to board a plane to Canada with proof of a positive COVID-19 test (which meets the requirements here) conducted on a specimen collected between 10 –180 days prior to departure. This is in lieu of providing a negative COVID-19 test within 72 hours of departure.'
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@narbs, yes you are definitely right.
I think it must have been this that made me think you still had to submit a negative one.

“Positive results on your pre-entry test
A positive pre-entry test result within 72 hours of your planned entry is not a valid test result for entry to Canada”

I’d be paranoid about being asked for the test even though I was travelling on the ‘recovered’ route but I guess it’s no use to anyone if it’s still showing as positive anyway!
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@VolklAttivaS5, I'm now within the ten day window so locking myself in the bathroom Laughing
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@narbs, Laughing I know it’s a worry isn’t it! 6 people at my work have had it in the last week so I was thinking oh surely this ‘cold’ is it then too! But it seems not!! If it was it would work out better for me reference the ‘testing positive the day before you go’ concern or the arrival testing going the wrong way.
At least with Ski Big 3 they let you amend it a few days before or try and help you out and the Air Canada flight is refundable in terms of a flight credit.
There doesn’t seem to be any signs of the rules being relaxed yet either, I was hoping they would be before my travel date came around considering all the political considerations where the Canadians themselves don’t have enough tests!!
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We didn’t get fresh tracks anywhere, either live in the mountain or go to Japan if you want that everyday.


A lot of people overestimate how much snow the Rockies get. Living in golden I'd consider 10 inbound "proper" powder days (20cm+ overnight, never touching the bottom) a truly exceptional season. Normal is around 5-7 per season IME. So the idea that you can turn up on a short trip and will be skiing completely fresh tracks all day is very unrealistic. Just like we'd laugh at a Canadian thinking they were going to turn up in Chamonix for a few days and get unlimited fresh tracks. Of course get into the slackcountry or head to Rodgers pass and you can have pretty much unlimited fresh tracks, but no lift service.

I suspect kicking horse has been particularly bad as a lot of resort has been closed - ozone for FWT, T1 south for wrangle the chute, I'm guessing they had either Compton's or Marley's closed for juniors too. So not surprising things are tracked out.
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@boarder2020, I saw on Lake Louise’s FB page that they’d had the most snow this season so far since 1955 or something?
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@narbs, yes you are definitely right.
I think it must have been this that made me think you still had to submit a negative one.

“Positive results on your pre-entry test
A positive pre-entry test result within 72 hours of your planned entry is not a valid test result for entry to Canada”

I’d be paranoid about being asked for the test even though I was travelling on the ‘recovered’ route but I guess it’s no use to anyone if it’s still showing as positive anyway!



We're going next Thursday.....I had covid over Christmas and have no real proof of infection, I've a copy of the test booking and and then a text from the HSE the day after telling me I had it!
I've got an EU recovery cert but I'm lead to believe they're only interested in infection!
So I'm gonna get a PCR test done in Dublin anyway, print out everything I've got and hope for the best.
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What do men and ski resorts all have in common. All of them lie about 8" snowHead I take resorts Facebook with a pinch of salt. They often put their snow measurement spot in a favourable position and make the stats fit their narrative. For example 10cm snow sounds great, but if it falls during the day then it's all getting tracked out anyway. 60cm over a month sounds great, but if it's all 1-2cm days rather than big dumps probably not fantastic skiing.

I'm just saying from my personal experience from other seasons big powder days are a rarity. However, I've seen a lot of tourists head out with unrealistic expectations that they are going to have pretty much unlimited powder days, which is just not the case (unless you get extremely lucky).

Of course Whistler gets way more big dumps due to the coastal weather. You are welcome to argue about snow quality and lift lines snowHead
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Powder days as a tourist booked in any way in advance are always a matter of luck. The only way you can stack the deck in your favour is go in statistically better months for snowfall and to go for an extended period of time i.e. 2 weeks better than 1, 3 even better.
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@eat>sleep>ride>r,

Interested to hear your updates as we’re heading LHR-YYC on the 10th.
Did you get a grilling on your ‘quarantine plan’ at immigration?
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@robcarrie, no grilling just fill in the self service terminal. Immigration staff just asked purposes of trip. End of the day tourism is an industry.
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