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| Saintsman wrote: |
There's nowhere to upload your positive proof in Arrivecan.
In Arrivecan you tick a box indicating that you've had COVID and will be traveling unde nthat method rather than a 72 hour test. You upload your Vax certificates.
At the airport checkin, they ask to see your Arrivecan receipt and will then ask for your 72 hour test. You tell them you're using a positive test result, hand that over together with your NHS email (we printed and laminated both along with lots of other docs to be sure).
That's it.
On arrival, if everything has hooked together correctly you will automatically bypass arrivals testing and be on your way |
Fab, thanks.
Have just spoken to the Consulate and Air Canada who've also said the NHS email will be sufficient.
Just to be clear - the only proof of a positive test is the advisory email from the NHS, we don't have any other documentation
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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At check-in AC wanted both. The email is dodgy
And no - you're traveling using a positive result, so no preflight or arrivals test for you
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| Saintsman wrote: |
At check-in AC wanted both. The email is dodgy
And no - you're traveling using a positive result, so no preflight or arrivals test for you |
OK, so we need to arrange a second PCR test today?
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Not as long as your NHS test was a PCR. As soon as you tested positive your NHS travel pass de-activated. On day 10 it will re-activate with a new "proof of recovery" page. This details your test, type, date, and QR codes back to your NHS record just like your Vax certificates. That plus the email at check-in is what you need
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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@Saintsman, you're a star, thanks!
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No worries - the process isn't terribly clear, especially as the NHS result cert doesn't fully meet the stated entry requirements, but we've been there and got the t-shirt
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Any  skied Whistler today? How were conditions...looked like a lot of rain overnight? Not sure whether to organise a visit up this weekend as conditions seem very mild for time of year.
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Gave it a miss today, snow and fog most of day, tomorrow looking good, some snow tonight, but Saturday says it may reach 8 degrees !!!!!!
Sunday will be busy so will miss that and do Monday Tuesday and Wednesday as temperature due to fall to near zero
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@yorkshirelad, thank you, much appreciated.
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@Snowsartre, today was good fun high up. About 10-15cm fresh snow (rained in village). Found some good stashes. In places dust and crust but in others was great.
The mid mountain to village was not fun though. A lot of variable snow that worked the legs.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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Anyone skiing Panorama, Kicking Horse, Revelstoke this coming week? There with a friend or two and would be happy to share a guide for some back country/ top tips.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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@Snowsartre, skied backcountry today some great snow down to about 1600 m then got a little funky , temp inversion on the way so things are going to be warm up top , Tomorrow should be ok but then not sure till Tuesday when temps drop , have had a great week and if you know where to look some good skiing to be had , the lack of crowds makes it easy to rack up some miles and then finish early and enjoy a well earnt beer
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Skied Whistler today, some good stuff mid mountain and higher, more bad. Simply too much high temp and not enough fresh snow for the last week and a half. Scandinave tomorrow to rest some aching muscles and limbs, then will see how we go. Don't expect anything to be busy in the next 7 days
Leaking badly out of Ottawa, mandatory on arrival testing + quarantine to be scrapped inside the next 2 weeks. Return to random testing and no quarantine.
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You know it makes sense.
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Leaking badly out of Ottawa, |
Ah the first porn film I produced. Memories!
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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| Saintsman wrote: |
| ... Leaking badly out of Ottawa, mandatory on arrival testing + quarantine to be scrapped inside the next 2 weeks. Return to random testing and no quarantine. |
Sounds good.
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Poster: A snowHead
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| Rishie wrote: |
| Anyone skiing Panorama, Kicking Horse, Revelstoke this coming week? There with a friend or two and would be happy to share a guide for some back country/ top tips. |
Not there this year , but are you planning on touring, or just staying within the Resort boundaries ?
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Back to the “Travel TO Canada” topic:
I was relying on an old +ve PCR test to meet the CA entry requirements (“I” for Immunised, not “V” for fully vax’ed). This was my experience.
{note: edited the next morning - Saintsman advised the handout was WRONG - still a quarantine requirement} NO QUARANTINE: The CA Covid handout given to me on arrival expressly states that quarantine is NOT required for fully-vaxed symptom-less travellers. {end of note}
I was nervous about check-in/flying out with BA as I couldn’t use VeriFLY (-ve test result req’d) to online check-in the day before so had to check-in in person on the day (BA checked me in 5hrs before departure). That put my mind at rest knowing I’d met BA’s version of the CA entry requirements.
In the event, all went very smoothly at T5 with covid-docs checked just once at check-in.
Arrival in Vancouver Canada Thursday evening, disembarked at gate at 19:20.
1. Kiosk-based auto-passport check links in with ArriveCAN app and gives a printed receipt indicating which covid “path” to follow after bag collection.
2. Human check of passport and printed receipt (nb. no need to present ArriveCAN app at any stage)
3. Collect bag
4. Kiosk-printed receipt (which includes custom declaration) taken after baggage reclaim and people being directed down path “A” or “B”
“A” led to hazmat suits doing free PCR testing in a temporary partitioned area
“B” led past all the testing and straight to the glorious EXIT !!! Whoop whoop
5. Shower at in-terminal hotel.
6. Supping first 16oz IPA with Vancouver friends at 19:54.
An excellent experience - thank you Canada - now off to Southern (CA) Rockies and the real business at hand!
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| Bones wrote: |
| Rishie wrote: |
| Anyone skiing Panorama, Kicking Horse, Revelstoke this coming week? There with a friend or two and would be happy to share a guide for some back country/ top tips. |
Not there this year , but are you planning on touring, or just staying within the Resort boundaries ? |
Unsure as first time in Canada. Don’t mind touring in the slightest but only to get to quieter places and better snow. Happy to go outside of resort boundaries but unsure of the requirements (assuming need a guide?). What would you recommend?
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Back to the “Travel TO Canada” topic:
I was relying on an old +ve PCR test to meet the CA entry requirements (“I” for Immunised, not “V” for fully vax’ed). This was my experience.
NO QUARANTINE: The CA Covid handout given to me on arrival expressly states that quarantine is NOT required for fully-vaxed symptom-less travellers.
I was nervous about check-in/flying out with BA as I couldn’t use VeriFLY (-ve test result req’d) to online check-in the day before so had to check-in in person on the day (BA checked me in 5hrs before departure). That put my mind at rest knowing I’d met BA’s version of the CA entry requirements.
In the event, all went very smoothly at T5 with covid-docs checked just once at check-in.
Arrival in Vancouver Canada Thursday evening, disembarked at gate at 19:20.
1. Kiosk-based auto-passport check links in with ArriveCAN app and gives a printed receipt indicating which covid “path” to follow after bag collection.
2. Human check of passport and printed receipt (nb. no need to present ArriveCAN app at any stage)
3. Collect bag
4. Kiosk-printed receipt (which includes custom declaration) taken after baggage reclaim and people being directed down path “A” or “B”
“A” led to hazmat suits doing free PCR testing in a temporary partitioned area
“B” led past all the testing and straight to the glorious EXIT !!! Whoop whoop
5. Shower at in-terminal hotel.
6. Supping first 16oz IPA with Vancouver friends at 19:54.
An excellent experience - thank you Canada - now off to Southern (CA) Rockies and the real business at hand! |
Yeah, the handout says no quarantine. If you do get tested you are told in no uncertain terms that it's wrong
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Rishie, I'd stay within the boundaries to start, should be plenty of decent skiing tbh - anywhere where you have to hike to 
Panorama - head over to Taynton Bowl, hike the cat track and ski where you like, Stumbocks and Sidewinder Gladeswere good when we were there.
Kicking Horse - Take the Gondola  head over to Fuze Bowl to start for warm ups, you can lap Gateway to Heaven lift if you want. Then head anywhere thats got a dark colour run - you wont need to go out of the boundary
Revelstoke - Plenty of good stuff to ski, vert. is big. If you hike up from the top of The Stoke chair, drop into North Bowl, ski down and head back to bottom of The Ripper chair. its virtually back country anyway. Dont go lower than The Ripper, or its a hard long walk back - and cliffs. Watch out for cliff s within the boundary too. Skiers right from North Bowl into Greely Bowl, you can duck the rope ( your choice) and agian head around to base of The Ripper - same caveats apply. Usually better snow her, but locals know that too.
South Bowl, good also - easy to duck the rope( head skiers left before dropping ) but if you go too low its a hike Glades of Narnia can be fun, and Kill the Banker is entertaining  If you like tree skiing you'll be fine.
The mountain isnt really developed as you'll see from the map, but anywheres good.
You could probably hire a guide - we've never felt the need, I tend to look at the map, and note where the lifts are, and head out somewhere, Occaionally got lost, sometimes ducked a rope too ( At your own risk, I'll stress - theres signs warning you of the danger ) survived to ski again. Dont be afraid to talk to the locals on lifts - great source of info
My rule of thumb - if theres hiking, its for a reason I figure it keeps the majority of folks away, and usually accesses some fun terrian. The downside is carrying 2 pairs of skis, SWMBO doesnt enjoy hiking as much. She enjoys the skiing part though so we compromise at times
Where are you lodging at all three ?
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Just like to say that, while going to Whistler did not work out for me due to a number of COVID related reasons, I'd like to thank everyone on this topic for the advice given, especially to @Saintsman.
I've moved my Birthday Bash plan for next year to this, so I may as well push my Whistler plan over to next, so roll on next year!
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RichardB, Sorry to hear, at least you're getting some snow time - Whislter will still be there next too
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I think we'll (hopefully!) be in a much better position by the middle of the year, enough that I'll buy the Epic pass in November to be able to make the most of Whistler as a resort rather than pay the prices I've seen to book just a 7 day pass right now! 
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@Saintsman, “ Yeah, the handout says no quarantine. If you do get tested you are told in no uncertain terms that it's wrong “
Gosh - that handout’s an absolutely terrible bit of official (mis-)information then! Glad to hear testees are being put straight - so still no removal of the quarantine reqmt - I’ll edit my now mid-leading post.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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| Rishie wrote: |
| Bones wrote: |
| Rishie wrote: |
| Anyone skiing Panorama, Kicking Horse, Revelstoke this coming week? There with a friend or two and would be happy to share a guide for some back country/ top tips. |
Not there this year , but are you planning on touring, or just staying within the Resort boundaries ? |
Unsure as first time in Canada. Don’t mind touring in the slightest but only to get to quieter places and better snow. Happy to go outside of resort boundaries but unsure of the requirements (assuming need a guide?). What would you recommend? |
Perhaps the best touring in North America is Rogers pass between revelstoke and golden (kicking horse). If you want a great touring experience that's your best bet - usually plenty of scope for fresh lines and great snow too.
There is some pretty awesome slackcountry around kicking horse. Without touring gear the only option is to hike up T2 and continue along the ridge. Lots of fun stuff and it's possible to ski back to resort (it's also very easy if you don't know where you are looking for to miss the route back and have a very long hike out!). If you have touring gear drop the backside of ozone and then just keep heading up and over the ridges running parallel to the resort (north sides are steep chutes and south sides more mellow - same as the resort), there is a traverse back to the bottom of the resort, but again miss it and you have an unpleasant bushwhack. All this stuff is very much avalanche terrain so you should know what you are doing. As good as it is, I probably wouldn't recommend paying all that money for a lift pass just to spend the day outside the boundary, theres plenty to keep you busy inside the ropes and if it really is skied out I'd just head to Rogers pass.
There's no "requirements" per se. The avalanche bulletins are very detailed and there is enough online info you should be able to plan a safe route. Guide will speed up navigation and help find best conditions but isn't necessary.
I'd be very cautious of just ducking ropes if you don't know where your going and what you are doing. There's usually at least a couple of people each season that end up getting stuck out for the night in canyon creek at kicking horse and not uncommon to see slides triggered not far from the T2 boundary rope on a slope that is particularly prone to slides. Imo consequences are much higher than messing about just off to the side of the piste in Europe.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| gryphea wrote: |
| Canada would be much better off with the type of system the UK had when I flew there end Sept. The Day 2 test booked through an approved supplier paid for by the traveller. People would then be able to get more rapid tests by paying more. Can't understand why we are paying for all these tests, especially when most people here can't access any kind of test |
Even less understandable now...
https://bc.ctvnews.ca/we-cannot-eliminate-all-risk-b-c-starting-to-manage-covid-19-more-like-common-cold-officials-say-1.5749895
I'm not sure what the value of testing everyone (twice) and making them go into quarantine is, if locally not testing most people and don't even have to isolate even if you had (or perhaps still have) covid.
I selfishly don't really care so much about what hoops people have to jump through to go on holiday, but I do think the resources could be better placed, and the pre-return PCR (or pre-travel, ie the one you are mostly all not complaining about) has a serious impact on my business.
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| yorkshirelad wrote: |
Gave it a miss today, snow and fog most of day, tomorrow looking good, some snow tonight, but Saturday says it may reach 8 degrees !!!!!!
Sunday will be busy so will miss that and do Monday Tuesday and Wednesday as temperature due to fall to near zero |
How was it today? Pondering whether to go skiing this weekend or do some work instead...
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You know it makes sense.
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@stuarth, still nice snow to be found in the alpine (but it's a real mix of dust on crust and blower boot-high pow). Pretty hard packed in the mid, and slushy in the run down to the village. If you are happy with some spring skiing i'd head up for sure. If you want lift-accessed powder, maybe do some work!
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@Timmaah,
Thanks for the update. Not sure I'm quite ready for spring skiing just yet! 
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| Bones wrote: |
Rishie, I'd stay within the boundaries to start, should be plenty of decent skiing tbh - anywhere where you have to hike to
Panorama - head over to Taynton Bowl, hike the cat track and ski where you like, Stumbocks and Sidewinder Gladeswere good when we were there.
Kicking Horse - Take the Gondola head over to Fuze Bowl to start for warm ups, you can lap Gateway to Heaven lift if you want. Then head anywhere thats got a dark colour run - you wont need to go out of the boundary
Revelstoke - Plenty of good stuff to ski, vert. is big. If you hike up from the top of The Stoke chair, drop into North Bowl, ski down and head back to bottom of The Ripper chair. its virtually back country anyway. Dont go lower than The Ripper, or its a hard long walk back - and cliffs. Watch out for cliff s within the boundary too. Skiers right from North Bowl into Greely Bowl, you can duck the rope ( your choice) and agian head around to base of The Ripper - same caveats apply. Usually better snow her, but locals know that too.
South Bowl, good also - easy to duck the rope( head skiers left before dropping ) but if you go too low its a hike Glades of Narnia can be fun, and Kill the Banker is entertaining If you like tree skiing you'll be fine.
The mountain isnt really developed as you'll see from the map, but anywheres good.
You could probably hire a guide - we've never felt the need, I tend to look at the map, and note where the lifts are, and head out somewhere, Occaionally got lost, sometimes ducked a rope too ( At your own risk, I'll stress - theres signs warning you of the danger ) survived to ski again. Dont be afraid to talk to the locals on lifts - great source of info
My rule of thumb - if theres hiking, its for a reason I figure it keeps the majority of folks away, and usually accesses some fun terrian. The downside is carrying 2 pairs of skis, SWMBO doesnt enjoy hiking as much. She enjoys the skiing part though so we compromise at times
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Thanks for the exhaustive answer. We are at Radium and going to drive to KH and Revvy. No snow forecast (well, not much anyway) for the coming week so these top tips are pretty handy and well received, thanks so much for taking the time to write such a long post.
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| boarder2020 wrote: |
| Rishie wrote: |
| Bones wrote: |
| Rishie wrote: |
| Anyone skiing Panorama, Kicking Horse, Revelstoke this coming week? There with a friend or two and would be happy to share a guide for some back country/ top tips. |
Not there this year , but are you planning on touring, or just staying within the Resort boundaries ? |
Unsure as first time in Canada. Don’t mind touring in the slightest but only to get to quieter places and better snow. Happy to go outside of resort boundaries but unsure of the requirements (assuming need a guide?). What would you recommend? |
Perhaps the best touring in North America is Rogers pass between revelstoke and golden (kicking horse). If you want a great touring experience that's your best bet - usually plenty of scope for fresh lines and great snow too.
There is some pretty awesome slackcountry around kicking horse. Without touring gear the only option is to hike up T2 and continue along the ridge. Lots of fun stuff and it's possible to ski back to resort (it's also very easy if you don't know where you are looking for to miss the route back and have a very long hike out!). If you have touring gear drop the backside of ozone and then just keep heading up and over the ridges running parallel to the resort (north sides are steep chutes and south sides more mellow - same as the resort), there is a traverse back to the bottom of the resort, but again miss it and you have an unpleasant bushwhack. All this stuff is very much avalanche terrain so you should know what you are doing. As good as it is, I probably wouldn't recommend paying all that money for a lift pass just to spend the day outside the boundary, theres plenty to keep you busy inside the ropes and if it really is skied out I'd just head to Rogers pass.
There's no "requirements" per se. The avalanche bulletins are very detailed and there is enough online info you should be able to plan a safe route. Guide will speed up navigation and help find best conditions but isn't necessary.
I'd be very cautious of just ducking ropes if you don't know where your going and what you are doing. There's usually at least a couple of people each season that end up getting stuck out for the night in canyon creek at kicking horse and not uncommon to see slides triggered not far from the T2 boundary rope on a slope that is particularly prone to slides. Imo consequences are much higher than messing about just off to the side of the piste in Europe. |
Thank you. I have done some reading about touring at Rogers and it looks great like you say. Wasn’t sure about ducking ropes and somewhere in the back of my head I seem to remember reading it’s not as ok in NA as it is in Europe.
Thanks again for taking the time to write, the tips are much appreciated.
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@Rishie, I don't know how fixed you are in your plans. Are you suggesting you will be based in radium and commute to kicking horse/revy from there? That's a lot of driving! Imo panorama is the least interesting of the resorts so I would consider using golden as a base as it's more central and revy/golden/Rogers have the better skiing than Pano.
Ducking resort boundary ropes are completely fine (although obviously you do so at your own risks). On there other hand there are permanent closures inside the resorts, and ducking these ropes will get your pass taken off you. It's generally pretty clear which is which.
There should be a backcountry ski map for Rodgers pass available to buy at golden, revy, and maybe even the Discovery centre at the pass. You need a winter permit to tour at Rodgers - easiest to do the online test before you go it's pretty straightforward. Rodgers pass actually covers a few areas - Connaught creek is as good an area as any to start just park at the discovery centre and tour from there. Has plenty of options from trees to bowls, mellow to steep. 8812 bowl is a good choice for a first tour. STS couloir for something a little more challenging.
As for kicking horse in bound tips:
Take gondola up, ski down CPR ridge till you find something you like the look of and drop north. Take stairway chair up, ski down redemption ridge until you find something you like the look of and drop north. Then repeat, simple but effective.
Definitely hike T1 at least twice to ski both north and south sides (for north just ski truth, it's the best line of the 3 (truth, dare, consequence).
Imo T2 isn't worth the hike 99% of the time (too much time/energy for too little vert).
Definitely do whitewall at least once and ozone once (although it may be closed now saving the snow for FWT. From bottom of whitewall/ozone you can hike middle ridge which usually has some decent snow.
If you can find a local or patrol that can show you how to access Dutch wallet it's pretty "unique" (you would struggle to find it on your own).
Plenty of steep/challenging terrain. Mainline and steps are particularly "gripping" with quite a bit of exposure.
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@stuarth, Blackcomb glacier was awesome today , as it was closed yesterday , diamond and ruby bowl also mint , fun on piste down to crystal and cat skinner chairs , below was spring like but still fun , didn't ski whistler but alpine would have been fun , things should hold up for the weekend but bit of a lottery after that , always better than work tho
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Leaking badly out of Ottawa, mandatory on arrival testing + quarantine to be scrapped inside the next 2 weeks. Return to random testing and no quarantine. |
Great news
Can’t wait to go on 24th Feb but I shall await the official news of the scrapping of it of course.
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| Bones wrote: |
Rishie, You're welcome.
Are you staying in Radium for the duration ? It will be a long day to Revelstoke and back if so - you might be able to get a room there for a day or so to ease the travelling. Numerous B+Bs some reasonable hotels, and some dodgy ones too
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Yeah it's about a 3 hour drive each way, which seems way too excessive imo - particularly as radium and panorama aren't anything overly special (I'd go as far as saying dropping Pano and adding Banff may be a better choice and save on lots of driving). Worth keeping an eye on the BC highways website as the roads around Rogers pass get closed for avalanche control (some of this is scheduled in advance and some is a reaction to weather). Perhaps a good reason to ski revelstoke first - you don't want the stress of getting "revel-stuck" due to the highway closing and stressing about making your flight.
Also don't get caught out by the time difference! Revelstoke is an hour behind golden and radium.
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@Dabber,
Decided to go for the work option.
Think I shall go for the bike option tomorrow.
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Whistler Alpine was fun today - surprising amount of powder, and although it looked skied out it wasn't really
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