 Poster: A snowHead
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Thanks for the info guys. But yes just to confirm, it is the end of January I'm traveling to Les Arcs, I have Covid at the moment (and luckily im OK) and I am worried about still testing positive on a PCR at the end of January. Frustratingly, I have no way of knowing if this will be the case or not at the end of Jan, unless I pay for a private test a week or two beforehand and see what that shows.
To clarify, it doesn't have to be a PCR test to go into France, a (paid for) supervised lateral (antigen test) test would do it? With the laterals being less likely to pickup infection of someone who has already recovered from Covid a month ago.
Obviously depending on if France remove the travel ban!
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| rob.m wrote: |
Thanks for the info guys. But yes just to confirm, it is the end of January I'm traveling to Les Arcs, I have Covid at the moment (and luckily im OK) and I am worried about still testing positive on a PCR at the end of January. Frustratingly, I have no way of knowing if this will be the case or not at the end of Jan, unless I pay for a private test a week or two beforehand and see what that shows.
To clarify, it doesn't have to be a PCR test to go into France, a (paid for) supervised lateral (antigen test) test would do it? With the laterals being less likely to pickup infection of someone who has already recovered from Covid a month ago.
Obviously depending on if France remove the travel ban! |
Just book a PCR through the NHS in a week or two
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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The latest news UK side is that research shows that omicron is much less severe - and most interestingly in London - where 1 in 35 have omicron/covid apparently - admissions are decreasing now so it looks like it has peaked in London. Negligible increase in icu admissions or deaths. This can only be good news for the travel industry. I can’t see Boris introducing more restrictions if this trend continues. I really hope Macron follows the science and worries less about his chances at the election. Hopefully the ski resorts prefectures are putting pressure on him…
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It might also be the endgame for COVID. Fast spreading low risk - pushes out more dangerous versions. Fingers crossed.
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| snowqueen50 wrote: |
| The latest news UK side is that research shows that omicron is much less severe - and most interestingly in London - where 1 in 35 have omicron/covid apparently - admissions are decreasing now so it looks like it has peaked in London. Negligible increase in icu admissions or deaths. This can only be good news for the travel industry. I can’t see Boris introducing more restrictions if this trend continues. I really hope Macron follows the science and worries less about his chances at the election. Hopefully the ski resorts prefectures are putting pressure on him… |
The UK figure is 1 in 35 ; the London figure is 1 in 13 !!!
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| albob wrote: |
| snowqueen50 wrote: |
| The latest news UK side is that research shows that omicron is much less severe - and most interestingly in London - where 1 in 35 have omicron/covid apparently - admissions are decreasing now so it looks like it has peaked in London. Negligible increase in icu admissions or deaths. This can only be good news for the travel industry. I can’t see Boris introducing more restrictions if this trend continues. I really hope Macron follows the science and worries less about his chances at the election. Hopefully the ski resorts prefectures are putting pressure on him… |
The UK figure is 1 in 35 ; the London figure is 1 in 13 !!! |
Whoever said Londoners are unfriendly? They're clearly happy to share the virus.
Not wanting to be too optimistic but as @ringingmaster says, isn't this one of the best-case scenarios that we were told might happen? A less dangerous but more easily spread strain leading to it becoming a background annoyance? I've no idea what's to stop the less dangerous variant mutating to become more dangerous in future...
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"A less dangerous but more easily spread strain <cut>"
The problem then is more people being off work (rather in hospital) and services being affected (e.g. - 20% of London firemen were off sick last week) ;
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There’s a highish proportion of unvaccinated in London which exaggerates the hospital admissions.
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| albob wrote: |
"A less dangerous but more easily spread strain <cut>"
The problem then is more people being off work (rather in hospital) and services being affected (e.g. - 20% of London firemen were off sick last week) ; |
And, 1% of an eye-wateringly large number of infections getting hospitalised (if that indeed happens) is too much for the NHS. So not all plain sailing. Yet.
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| sugarmoma666 wrote: |
| Any chance we can keep this thread on topic? There's loads of other threads already discussing the ins and outs of Covid and emerging research. |
I'll try again  The thread for general chat about Covid as opposed to French entry requirements is here:
https://snowheads.com/ski-forum/viewtopic.php?t=150990
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| sugarmoma666 wrote: |
| sugarmoma666 wrote: |
| Any chance we can keep this thread on topic? There's loads of other threads already discussing the ins and outs of Covid and emerging research. |
I'll try again The thread for general chat about Covid as opposed to French entry requirements is here:
https://snowheads.com/ski-forum/viewtopic.php?t=150990 |
Understand that the thread drift is not welcome, but there is context relevant to title as the news feed from London "appear" to be dominant in Macron decision process. Or that's what some seem to hold.
If that's true or not you'd have to consider that French entry is at least loosely chained to London's numbers.
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Hearing rumours that French ski trips may be back on for brits mid-Jan.
Hopefully the phrase…no smoke without fire applies here.
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You know it makes sense.
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I also heard 14th but it was from a friend of friend of a friend, so never paid to much attention but my next trip is 20th so hears hoping
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Merry Christmas all - this is a hypothetical question about France … can someone please clarify what the entry requirements for a 14Y old were pre-the current measures? Our 14Y old has only had 1 shot but is also in possession of an EU digital recovery certificate (expires in April). We’re very much hoping he’ll be able to have his 2nd before our planned trip in February. Thanks very much.
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Poster: A snowHead
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| Fridge03 wrote: |
Hearing rumours that French ski trips may be back on for brits mid-Jan.
Hopefully the phrase…no smoke without fire applies here. |
Any reliable sources?
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| franga wrote: |
| Merry Christmas all - this is a hypothetical question about France … can someone please clarify what the entry requirements for a 14Y old were pre-the current measures? Our 14Y old has only had 1 shot but is also in possession of an EU digital recovery certificate (expires in April). We’re very much hoping he’ll be able to have his 2nd before our planned trip in February. Thanks very much. |
4th dec rules say this
"..The measures applied to vaccinated adults extend under the same conditions to accompanying minors, whether or not they are vaccinated."
That is a google translation
Problem -- is a 14 year old considered a minor on France ??
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@albob, judging by the page linked below, yes.
https://fra.europa.eu/en/content/age-majority
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The age of majority is 18 years in all EU Member States except for Scotland, where children are considered to have full legal capacity from the age of 16 years. |
The reference to Scotland means the page was written pre Brexit, but I think the news of a change in the age of majority within the EU would have come to our attention had it happened.
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Thanks very much all - I think we’ll wait and see what Monsieur Macron decides to do next
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People are hoping for a change around the 14th of Jan (only because some TO's have suspended their flight until that date - doesn't mean they will restart on that date though...!)
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We’re trying to stay hopeful that measures will be relaxed over the next few weeks …
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I'm scheduled to go on the 8th and in some ways hope the ban is still on place so I can get all my money back. What worries me is the test required before returning to the UK and the risk of being stuck out there in quarantine.
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@SkiPresto, it does say in a few places it’s a hypothetical q. Things change quickly so no harm getting prepared just in case.
I’m booked on a course late Jan in PDS and while the organiser/instructor has replanned those up to mid Jan she said right now she is fairly confident those after that should happen. Here’s hoping!
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| Skimum1 wrote: |
@SkiPresto, it does say in a few places it’s a hypothetical q. Things change quickly so no harm getting prepared just in case.
I’m booked on a course late Jan in PDS and while the organiser/instructor has replanned those up to mid Jan she said right now she is fairly confident those after that should happen. Here’s hoping! |
be realistic though - no one knows as nothing has been announced. This is 100% speculation.
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Macron is making an announcement Monday afternoon, no one here thinks it will be good news...
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| boredsurfin wrote: |
| Macron is making an announcement Monday afternoon, no one here thinks it will be good news... |
Agreed ... covid rates are surging in places like Val d'Isere
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You know it makes sense.
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@franga, and guess who is getting the blame!
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| boredsurfin wrote: |
| Macron is making an announcement Monday afternoon, no one here thinks it will be good news... |
To be fair, when Javid announced plan B he dropped the red list in the same breath so we can perhaps retain some hope politicians are on the same page...
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Poster: A snowHead
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It isn’t U.K. holidaymakers. It’s people flying from the U.K.
You can still enter via a green country (apart from Switzerland).
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| boredsurfin wrote: |
| Macron is making an announcement Monday afternoon, no one here thinks it will be good news... |
Where did you hear that?
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| albob wrote: |
| People are hoping for a change around the 14th of Jan (only because some TO's have suspended their flight until that date - doesn't mean they will restart on that date though...!) |
BA appear to have cancelled flights to Grenoble up to and including 15th...
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@bezthespaniard,
>You can still enter via a green country (apart from Switzerland).
Is CH new??
From https://www.interieur.gouv.fr/Actualites/L-actu-du-Ministere/Certificate-of-international-travel#from2
at 20 December 2021.
"2) You wish to enter Metropolitan France
2.1. Mobility rules and regulations
No restrictions shall apply when entering metropolitan France from a green list country or territory.
2.2. Health control measures
If you are already vaccinated, you shall present proof of your vaccination status and a sworn statement certifying the absence of COVID-19 symptoms and of any contact with a confirmed case of COVID-19. A negative PCR or antigen test taken less than 48 hours old is required, except for arrivals from a Member State of the European Union, Andorra, Iceland, Liechtenstein, Monaco, Norway, San Marino, the Holy See or Switzerland."
I'm trying on Friday armed with Long Stay Visa and proper French address. Address worked 26 Dec 2020.
But interested about the 48 hour test??
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| boredsurfin wrote: |
| Macron is making an announcement Monday afternoon, no one here thinks it will be good news... |
Heard the same thing from the locals in 3V….. one of the restaurants thought it might be a circuit breaker, or if numbers aren’t too bad, evening restrictions.
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Given the way that Omicron is whipping through hospitality staff on the Tarentaise, I suspect hospitality will be severely curtailed from next Sunday evening, when all the French lose interest in skiing for a month.
The resorts may stay open if there has been enough lobbying, but I suspect with the closure of duplicated lifts.
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Well the way the hordes are flooding into the valley for this coming week I can see restrictions coming in week after next as numbers are going to go huge!
But there again will all depend on hospitalisations I suppose like the UK?
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France reporting > 100K cases today. I’d hazard a guess that Monsieur Macron would now be under pressure to impose more restrictions. At least his foresight and strategic vision and incisive action to ban UK visitors earlier this month has worked a treat.
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For those snowheads living in the French Alps, are there still a load of Brits who’ve sneaked in through other routes or ruses?
Going by random snowhead posts in the last fortnight, quite a few folk won’t take Macron’s “no” for an answer.
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