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Shell modification - to stretch or to grind?

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I have picked up a pair of Carv inserts and even though they are 2mm thick - I have noticed there is added pressure along the 5th metatarsal - which was already an area that was under questionable pressure requiring me to release the buckles on the clog at times when on the lifts, or in queues etc.

Talking through with a boot fitter, my initial thought was to stretch the shell slightly to generate the extra space - no issue on the instep - the bootfiter also suggested we could look at grinding down the boot board - I'm a bit critical of the latter as while this would accommodate the extra height taken up by the carv insert, I see this as doing very little to actually impact the lateral width across, which was already problematic, - Lange LV shell so not heat moldable to get the space that way - I'm hesitant on the grinding the boot board - feel it will achieve less, more permanent, and could go wrong and mess the ramp angles up.

Would appreciate thoughts
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Lange LV shell so not heat moldable to get the space that way

Why do you think it isn't heat moldable? A bootfitter will be able to stretch it.
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rjs wrote:
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Lange LV shell so not heat moldable to get the space that way

Why do you think it isn't heat moldable? A bootfitter will be able to stretch it.


My understanding was Lange dual-core boots are not heat moldable - I could be wrong :s
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I can't see an issue with either stretching or grinding in that area, the duel core plastic is designed to aid rebound when the boot is flexed at the 5th met I can't see it having an impact. If it's a very specific point a grind is the way to go or if it's a more general area then it's a stretch, follow the advice from your fitter ......
As for a baseboard grind why not see if you can get a spare set of baseboards in case you remove the Carv then if it doesn't work you've still got a new set?
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My understanding was Lange dual-core boots are not heat moldable


No. They will stretch. I've had a couple of fitters punch both boots in various places, inc 5th met and the punches have held well with no negative impacts on the boot.
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Just noticed your post.

I just posted this in the other Carv thread ... it may help ...

I had a nightmare trying to fit my Carvs in my boots!
The top of my foot, where it meets my ankle, is unusually high. This also makes my medial malleolus high.
Just getting boots to fit is a major mission.
This issue means that anything that raises the height of my foot crushes it into the top of the boot. This is a problem without any additional inserts.
The addition of the Carv insert was clearly not going to work.
In order to create enough room for the Carv I had to remove the boot baseplate which adds about 3mm of height, cut a replacement heal insert from wood and superglue a strong 1mm flat insole to it, cut to boot size.
I then took my custom insoles, which added quit a bit of height, and sanded as much as I dared off the bottom to drop my foot as much as possible.
I am absolutely no boot expert, so I began these alterations with some trepidation, but I was spured on having watched an extensive video from a boot fitting guru who said not to be scared to try adjustng your own boots.
The results were impressive. Not only does the Carv now fit perfectly but, with the extra alterations, the boots generally fit me much better.
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@gorilla, just to be clear - you're saying they will stretch if heated - I don't doubt they will - but won't that damage the integrity of the plastic?

Seems punching - stretching (non heated) is the way to go.

@FoofyNoo, Yeah I saw this - do you mind sharing the video please
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@barracuda, CEM just got out his heat gun and punched it like a regular boot.
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@barracuda, how can you stretch without heating the plastic? I've never heard of anyone doing that! Certain plastics need special care, induction heat maybe or very gentle heat monitored with a infrared thermometer and I'm pretty sure there will be guidance from each individual manufacturer (they know their boots are going to be modified) the cooling of the boot is just as important to make sure the stretch "holds"
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