Poster: A snowHead
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Hello,
I know this is early, but next winter (2022/23), I will be looking to find a resort in France for a week's skiing, that can meet the following list of fussy requirements!
One decent intermediate skier (aged 40ish)
One skier who has skied for two weeks on snow (aged 18 )
One skier who has skied one week on snow... 15+ years ago (aged 30)
One beginner (aged 30)
Slopes/lifts that aren't ridiculously busy (probably travelling at the very start of January) and a decent ski area
Reasonable apres ski (doesn't have to be the absolute busiest place going - we won't be out until the early hours every single night!) and not at top-end prices
Plenty of choice for catered accommodation that is close to/on the slopes.
Looking forward to any helpful suggestions or advice.
(Edited: it doesn't *have* to be France, if still within easy reach from UK)
Thanks so much!
Last edited by Poster: A snowHead on Sat 2-10-21 0:46; edited 1 time in total
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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You're in Austria, right up to
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Plenty of choice for catered accommodation that is close to/on the slopes.
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I've no idea how catered chalets will work in 2 seasons time but probably not as well as two seasons ago, so maybe concentrate on the other points and compromise on the accommodation?
And, of course, welcome to
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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So to summarise, you're looking for:
- quiet slopes
- après ski
- good beginner and intermediate runs
- slopeside, catered accommodation
- France
I think it's the first two that might be difficult satisfy at the same time.
La Rosiere?
Courchevel 1650?
They're probably not ideal on the après-ski front, but a rowdier resort will probably mean busier slopes.
Alternatively you could drop the France requirement and that would give you lots more options.
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Why France?
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Actually, you're right, it doesn't *have* to be France, if it's still within easy reach from UK.
I can speak a bit of French though and like to make an effort!
So yes, happy to consider other options too
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First week in January? Obergurgl.
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JoeB wrote: |
Actually, you're right, it doesn't *have* to be France, if it's still within easy reach from UK. |
By which mode of transport?
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La Plagne would tick most of those boxes, if you are happy a bar with some live music on the apres front, most areas of La Plagne have at least that.
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In Tignes Val Claret you have Cocorico which is located at the bottom of the pistes (one fun challenging red and two blue pistes from opposite directions) so a good ending zone and meeting point at the end of the day. It's near the free bus to Tignes Le Lac, so this might be a good option but IMO Tignes is overshoot for beginners (I am in minority here)
In all my years of skiing in France I have found very few proper apres ski places that start after 16, Austrian style like.
Up in the mountains you have La Folie Douce places which are fun and wild, especially in Meribel. They start around 14 and shut off at about 16. They also serve food (best Carbonara I've ever had was at La Folie Douce Val Thorens) but at about 16 the music unwinds and everybody skies home.
You could go to Les 2 Alpes for sensible priced skiing, dining and accommodation. Plenty of blue pistes, you can take them to the opposite mountain for uncrowded long blue pistes on La Vallee Blanche and then go with the mainstream all the way up on Jordi.
They have the Pano Bar with loud music and beverages at 14, but everybody ski together after 16 and it's crowded.
Plan B: You still have more than an year to go, download some foreign language app and learn German. Then the world is your oyster. Skiwelt, Saalbach, Solden.
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@JoeB, I’d give priority to the needs of the beginner, without sacrificing too much on the needs of the other group members.
I assume by ‘catered accommodation’ you include hotels in that, rather than just catered chalets.
Alpe D’Huez
Obergurgl
Selva Val Gardena
Soldeu
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Austria / Südtirol area of Italy.
Self cater but use the money saved from not being in a catered chalet to eat out alternate days. On the days you eat in, do it on the cheap. Frozen pizza one night for example.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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La tania would be my pick, although apres is lacking. With catered accommodation, like chalets, I’ve never met many people who then go out much if they are in a catered option. You get back from skiing to tea and cake, have dinner with drinks, and going out seems such effort. lol
It’s a great cheaper option to get into the 3 valleys but beginners have some good options too
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denfinella wrote: |
JoeB wrote: |
Actually, you're right, it doesn't *have* to be France, if it's still within easy reach from UK. |
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By air
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You know it makes sense.
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PeakyB wrote: |
@JoeB, I’d give priority to the needs of the beginner, without sacrificing too much on the needs of the other group members.
I assume by ‘catered accommodation’ you include hotels in that, rather than just catered chalets.
Alpe D’Huez
Obergurgl
Selva Val Gardena
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Yes, I'm definitely including hotels, thanks.
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Belle Plagne could be worth considering.
Plenty of ski in/out options and plenty almost as such.
A couple of relatively lively Apres bars.
Some great beginner slopes and a good many progression options.
I’d have bought there is enough to keep the group entertained for a week, plus it’s reasonably high, so shouldn’t be any snow condition issues.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Apart from those in 4 different countries I flagged up earlier (Alpe D’Huez, Obergurgl, Selva Val Gardena, Soldeu) I think both La Tania and Belle Plagne are good shouts for France.
Given they're in large, high altitude, snow sure areas, costs may be on the high side. However, in early January, if you miss the New Year bank holiday, there may be low season discounts or late booking bargains available.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Start of Jan is going to be the (in a usual year) one of the quietist times of the whole season I reckon, La Tania is a good shout, whilst only one decent bar its pretty lively and if you are in a catered chalet, you'll be getting back sharpish for the evening meal/wine!
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Thanks very much for the suggestions, they're much appreciated and will give me a good start at narrowing down options!
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JoeB wrote: |
Hello,
I know this is early, but next winter (2022/23), I will be looking to find a resort in France for a week's skiing, that can meet the following list of fussy requirements!
One decent intermediate skier (aged 40ish)
One skier who has skied for two weeks on snow (aged 18 )
One skier who has skied one week on snow... 15+ years ago (aged 30)
One beginner (aged 30)
Slopes/lifts that aren't ridiculously busy (probably travelling at the very start of January) and a decent ski area
Reasonable apres ski (doesn't have to be the absolute busiest place going - we won't be out until the early hours every single night!) and not at top-end prices
Plenty of choice for catered accommodation that is close to/on the slopes.
Looking forward to any helpful suggestions or advice.
(Edited: it doesn't *have* to be France, if still within easy reach from UK)
Thanks so much!
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Alpe d'Huez - has it all
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Plan B: You still have more than an year to go, download some foreign language app and learn German. Then the world is your oyster. Skiwelt, Saalbach, Solden.
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Why bother, they all speak English fluently?
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if you go for La Tania I can recommend Ski Magic as a chalet company.
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Yellow Snow wrote: |
JoeB wrote: |
Hello,
I know this is early, but next winter (2022/23), I will be looking to find a resort in France for a week's skiing, that can meet the following list of fussy requirements!
One decent intermediate skier (aged 40ish)
One skier who has skied for two weeks on snow (aged 18 )
One skier who has skied one week on snow... 15+ years ago (aged 30)
One beginner (aged 30)
Slopes/lifts that aren't ridiculously busy (probably travelling at the very start of January) and a decent ski area
Reasonable apres ski (doesn't have to be the absolute busiest place going - we won't be out until the early hours every single night!) and not at top-end prices
Plenty of choice for catered accommodation that is close to/on the slopes.
Looking forward to any helpful suggestions or advice.
(Edited: it doesn't *have* to be France, if still within easy reach from UK)
Thanks so much!
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Alpe d'Huez - has it all |
Maybe. It would be perfect for the beginner and 1/2 week skiers but the decent intermediate skier might not find it especially challenging. Neither the Tunnel or Chateau Noir pistes have been open when I've visited but I'm not sure I'd class the Cristaux/Sarenne pair a black, or even especially dark red. From memory the only run that make me wake up and have to focus on skiing properly was the unbashed Balcons black - and I'm not god's gift to skiing.
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I disagree Alpes d’huez has a huge amount for intermediates. Depends if you want runs you can buzz around and enjoy or those where you really challenge yourself. Personally I am an intermediate skier and I like reds and blues with an odd black. I wouldn’t do the tunnel.
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Thanks, the intermediate skier is happy on reds and blues - done a decent number of weeks but happy enough without blacks!
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@JoeB, I'm surprised no one has mentioned a Snowheads bash.
Since you have a range of ski abilities then the key is to have something for everyone. If you keep to your group you will never all be satisfied.
The Birthday bash has a good range of skiing and there are loads of people to buddy up with so you can ski some days together but join other groups to let rip or perhaps take it easy and probably more importantly, to make sure you go somewhere appropriate for your ability.
If you mean by Apres, La follies douche, out in a restaurant or some late night bars with a bit of a wild atmosphere then the EOSB may be suitable but I would say that the snow in the afternoon may not be ideal for the beginner.
For the beginner and the 1 week 15 years ago I would say the birthday bash in Arabba would be best. They can spend the first day on the local hill to get used to it, then off to an area with a long easy ski home. Or ski to Alta Badia for miles of cruisy blues. This will build their confidence and skiing ability.
Off course on the EOSB, there is excellent instructors for people of all abilities and they are at special Snowheads prices.
The BB aprez is the pub so no clubbing etc for the young team.
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Cervinia, pretty snow sure, excellent intermediate slopes, fantastic mountain scenery from the top, excellent mountain restaurants, and of course Zermatt over the border if feeling frisky near the end of the week. Apres not sure of but we’re going this year. It’s 30 plus years since I actually went there, but skied pretty much all of it from Zermatt. Cervinia this year because we include 1 two season skier and an absolute novice. Great wide open beginners slopes available which encourage progression.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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Mjit wrote: |
Yellow Snow wrote: |
JoeB wrote: |
Hello,
I know this is early, but next winter (2022/23), I will be looking to find a resort in France for a week's skiing, that can meet the following list of fussy requirements!
One decent intermediate skier (aged 40ish)
One skier who has skied for two weeks on snow (aged 18 )
One skier who has skied one week on snow... 15+ years ago (aged 30)
One beginner (aged 30)
Slopes/lifts that aren't ridiculously busy (probably travelling at the very start of January) and a decent ski area
Reasonable apres ski (doesn't have to be the absolute busiest place going - we won't be out until the early hours every single night!) and not at top-end prices
Plenty of choice for catered accommodation that is close to/on the slopes.
Looking forward to any helpful suggestions or advice.
(Edited: it doesn't *have* to be France, if still within easy reach from UK)
Thanks so much!
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Maybe. It would be perfect for the beginner and 1/2 week skiers but the decent intermediate skier might not find it especially challenging. Neither the Tunnel or Chateau Noir pistes have been open when I've visited but I'm not sure I'd class the Cristaux/Sarenne pair a black, or even especially dark red. From memory the only run that make me wake up and have to focus on skiing properly was the unbashed Balcons black - and I'm not god's gift to skiing. |
I am sure a lot of tne respondents on here ski/walk round with their eyes shut
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I would only mention that you should be careful about "the start of January." Check that the French school holidays aren't later due to where Xmas falls. Some years the first week in January is actually the second week of school holidays and is thus jammed full. But if no conflict slopes will be quiet everywhere and prices lower.
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You know it makes sense.
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@Pasigal, No French school areas are off according to the euro school holidays ensemble chart. (I'm pleased to report!)
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Montgenevre
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