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Tignes and The Espace Killy (Or Tignes/Val D'Isere) 2021/2022. (Useful links updated on Page 1)

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@chocksaway, Bravo you did a good job
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@Rob Mackley,
'La Rosiere is different'
It always was. Back in happier times a six day or longer lift pass (Espace Killy, Paradiski, Ste Foy, 3 Valleys) came with free days in the other resorts - except La Rosiere, which gave 35% off a day pass.


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Well, "chapeau" @chocksaway for that explanation! So basically, it's political rather than technical. I can still kinda square it off on the basis that if I should ever base myself in BSM, the saving on accommodation more than covers having to buy two season passes (and pay for odd days in St Foy and La Rosiere)!
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@Rob Mackley, @bobski62, Ta, and Bob, if you are in Bourg, don't forget the Super U vouchers for St F on your till receipt. Normally less than €30 for Wed and Sat. Every little helps!
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@bobski62, until the end of August you can buy a season pass in Ste Foy for €440 this includes a one free day in Val/Tignes , Les Arcs and La Plagne , a 35% discount whenever at La Rosiere and a book of 6 half price vouchers for friends in Ste Foy . A bargain.
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@chocksaway, thanks, good answer, including showing your ‘workings’ I’d say.

Always interesting to try to understand the power and influences behind how ski areas develop, remain the same, change strategy, decide on some of the seemingly small but important policies and so on.

Helps explain why some of the way things are, or change, don’t seem grounded in rational thinking or common sense.

Questions, if you know about these things. If the Companie des Alpes don’t own the lifts but only the operating license, who actually owns the lifts? Then who owns the land all the lifts are on?
I doubt it’s simple Smile
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@PeakyB, You are right, it's not. Again as I understand it the Commune 'own' the lifts, the licence to operate could be revoked. Interestingly, Tignes was the first CdeA resort back in the 80s when the resort was just about bankrupt. Val D'Isere didn't handover control until the noughties, when STVI was about to go bust, after blowing the budget on the Olympique Express.

The land above which we ski is as complicated. This is how it was explained to me by a councillor. The land is owned by numerous farmers but only really to an altitude, basically where grass grows. Bizarrely, they don't own the snow above it, but the resort still needs permission to put a piste above it. The resort doesn't pay for the use but the owners get free lift passes thanks to an old statute. But, it gets more bizarre, I suggested we needed lots more posted to keep it safe for all the extra skiers, but it has now been ruled that benefits in kind to allow the right to use the snow above the owned land has been forbidden. Meaning, no one is now interested. Some of that might have been lost in translation but the main thrust is right.
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@chocksaway, thanks again. Fascinating!
Glad the farmers don’t own the snow accumulated on their land.

Otherwise, it might be harvested and up for bids on skibay Shocked
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And in other news, Tignes Seasonaires has a picture of the foundations going in for the Aiguille Rouge Chair. That's good news although later than normal, going by previous installations.
Here's hoping they don't bump into any issues, either technical or environmental.
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@chocksaway, I always get confused with Aiguille Rouge and Marais (sp) but checked the piste map and Marais is now not on it, can't remember if was on last seasons as at the PSB that side wasn't open, but what are the replacement plans for that?
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@stevew, Easy to get confused, I used to refer to them as the short one, Aiguille Rouge, and long slow one, Marais.

The Marais was condemned and ripped out last summer, but it's replacement ran into planning difficulties, which are now mostly resolved. But a huge bottleneck ensued at Aiguille Rouge last season, so it's replacement was fast tracked this summer.

Hopefully Marais will reappear shortly, but I think the Tichot Gondola is the priority to service HMS Club Med. But then again it didn't get through planning at the first attempt!

We also have to take into account what's in the new lift kitty, that's a percentage of the lift pass take, so significantly down in 19/20, nothing in 20/21 and a reduction in 21/22, although that was quite marginal.
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@chocksaway, thanks for the reminder, hopefully we'll get a fast Marais for 23/24 Very Happy
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We’re going round to Tignes from Val d’Isere tomorrow for the food festival and looking for some advice from Tignes snowheads. Some enterprising person from Tignes has attached signs for the event at some of the roundabouts in Val.

1/ Parking, where is best.
2/ A nice place for lunch, fat salad, planches,charcuteries.
3/ Hike routes, something about 2/3hrs.
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 You know it makes sense.
You know it makes sense.
Lac 3 under the Maison de Tignes.
I would say Terrachu by the lake, but it's likely to be fully booked unless you get on the phone in the morning. The terrace at Escale Blanche is reliable.
Hiking, there is a good route up Toviere and round the Pointe de Lavachet, downside is you will get views of La Daille wink
A shorter route is to walk down from Lavachet down the right bank of the stream to the waterfall.
Or up Palafour to Lacs du Chardonnet, bathe feet and then down Grattalu or traverse Lognan back to the upper reaches of the Golf Course.
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Some detail now on Tignes.net re next seasons lift pass prices.

Highlights for main season (from 17 Dec)

6 day pass €360
Under 8's free
8-18's €300
64-74 €300
Over 75, still free!!

Daily rate is €60, so no benefit to buying in advance if the weather is dodgy, but it appears that the 7th day is free.........

The full tariff grid is not yet published, so hold your breath.
There also appears to be a new Tignes a la carte, but the link doesn't yet work, STGM busy selling summer stuff.
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@chocksaway, 6 Day last season (inc insurance) was €342.

So gone up a tad, not massively though......
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@GreenDay, Yeah, not bad, but if I was on a 6 dayer in low season I would be tempted to buy passes by the day in case of bad weather or a riotous evening with a bunch of delinquent seasonaires and staff in QDC...... wink
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chocksaway wrote:
@GreenDay, Yeah, not bad, but if I was on a 6 dayer in low season I would be tempted to buy passes by the day in case of bad weather or a riotous evening with a bunch of delinquent seasonaires and staff in QDC...... wink


That, and - is there a "Tignes only" and an "Espace Killy" pass? If there is, and you're going for a lunchtime into evening bender down in Brev/Boisses no point in buying the full area pass for that day.
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@Judwin, There is a Tignes day pass, but you don't save a lot, but enough for a beer in Brev!
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The freezing level is coming down and there's a bit of snow forecast on the glacier.

At last!!

Fingers crossed that it's a sign of things to come Little Angel

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mountainaddict wrote:
The freezing level is coming down and there's a bit of snow forecast on the glacier.

At last!!

Fingers crossed that it's a sign of things to come Little Angel



Wonder where they get their data. Meteo France differs:-
https://meteofrance.com/meteo-montagne/tignes-3500m/732962
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Very very speculative at the moment, but trying to make things tie up with work that mean I could possibly get over for the whole of April.

Do they do a reduced price season pass in Tignes? A spring pass sort of thing?
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@swskier, No, but you now only need to ski for three weeks to break even on a season pass*

*Subject to ratification when full details are published
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