 Poster: A snowHead
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It looks like some Italian ski lifts are going to insist on people having a valid European Green Pass (Covid Vaccination Certificate) in order to access the lifts in 2021/22 season. This is according to Val Gardena (and presumably the rest of the Sella Ronda) - https://www.valgardena.it/en/news-val-gardena/detail/with-much-security-into-the-winter-in-val-gardena/
I am meant to be going there. I'm sure some of you are too.
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| In the coming winter, the lifts in Italy may only be used with a valid European Green Pass (vaccinated, recovered or tested). This is for the safety of all guests and locals. |
The issue for those of us with UK Covid Certs is that the UK isn't on the list: https://ec.europa.eu/info/live-work-travel-eu/coronavirus-response/safe-covid-19-vaccines-europeans/eu-digital-covid-certificate_en#recognition-of-covid-certificates-from-third-non-eu-countries
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So far, 16 non-EU countries (and territories) joined the EU Digital COVID Certificate system. This includes:
• Albania
• Andorra
• Switzerland
• Faroe Islands
• Israel
• Iceland
• Liechtenstein
• Morocco
• Monaco
• North Macedonia
• Norway
• Panama
• San Marino
• Turkey
• Ukraine
• The Vatican
The COVID Certificates issued in those 16 countries (and territories) are accepted in the EU under the same conditions as the EU Digital COVID Certificate. Likewise, the EU Digital COVID Certificate is accepted by those 16 countries. |
Am I getting this wrong (in which case, sorry for spooking anyone) or can you enlighten me.
Thanks.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Correct. I tried my U.K. certificate (2x AZ) with the Italian pass / checker app, and it's rejected. The U.K. government have expressed an intention to join the EU scheme, but no dates have been given. My Swiss certificate works fine.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Have got the french COVID pass on phone which accepts uk passport so that should work
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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The French app used by bars and restaurants can certainly read the NHS app QR code - it worked well in France in August
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Anybody any experience of using the Welsh NHS covid app in France?
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| Jameswp wrote: |
| Anybody any experience of using the Welsh NHS covid app in France? |
I installed the french scanner on my phone & was able to scan my other half's certificate fine.
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| snowornever wrote: |
| Have got the french COVID pass on phone which accepts uk passport so that should work |
So if you have the Tous Anti Covid, does this mean you do not need the EU Green Card? Does the Tous Anti Covid double as the Pass Sanitacion in France?
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| Mr.Egg wrote: |
| Jameswp wrote: |
| Anybody any experience of using the Welsh NHS covid app in France? |
I installed the french scanner on my phone & was able to scan my other half's certificate fine. |
yes
despite the website stating that the pass is not available for those living in wales, just went through the process and it produced the required 2 part qr codes. they worked on my m/bike tour of the pyrennees, on ferry and accepted by the anti toux covid pass thingy in france at bars and restos, never asked for it in spain AFAICR. Had the spanish spth app also, never asked for that either
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| telford_mike wrote: |
| Correct. I tried my U.K. certificate (2x AZ) with the Italian pass / checker app, and it's rejected. The U.K. government have expressed an intention to join the EU scheme, but no dates have been given. My Swiss certificate works fine. |
My uk certificate (2/2 AZ) works fine with the official checker VerificaC19 (downloaded from the store).
My 17year olds 1/2 Pf also gives a blue tick (valid in Italy only)
The Italian green pass only currently requires one jab (+15 days). Looking at the Val Gardena website it was last updated in Aug - I’m wondering if someone made a mistake (or didn’t realise the difference), as all other services in Italy (and now certain jobs) only require the Italian Green pass, rather than the full EU one - it would seem odd if Selva had unilaterally decided to be different.
(At least I hope so, as that’s where I’m off to for Xmas …)
Edit - I’ve left them a support message to ask this question - will report back
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| FrediKanoute wrote: |
| snowornever wrote: |
| Have got the french COVID pass on phone which accepts uk passport so that should work |
So if you have the Tous Anti Covid, does this mean you do not need the EU Green Card? Does the Tous Anti Covid double as the Pass Sanitacion in France? |
The Tous Anti Covid (TAC) app gives you the opportunity to scan a QR code (of your NHS Covid Pass) which TAC holds/is the Pass Sanitaire. You store it in the App and mine is labelled Certificat COVID Europe.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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@Pejoli, are you sure 1 doze of Pfizer is enough for Italy? It would sound very odd for me, and honestly I didn't find much about this anywhere. Otherwise UK is currently on D-list of countries for entrance to Italy, so next to valid vaccination certificate you need also negative PCR or HAGT test not older then 48 hours, even though I'm not really sure about this, as on page, I will link later, it says you need to take 5 days self isolation if you enter country without negative test OR valid vaccination certificate. But for you guys English is native language so you will understand it better then me with my English 
You can find most current info here: https://www.salute.gov.it/portale/nuovocoronavirus/dettaglioContenutiNuovoCoronavirus.jsp?lingua=english&id=5412&area=nuovoCoronavirus&menu=vuoto&tab=4
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@primoz,
There’s a distinction between getting into Italy, and what you can do once there.
It’s 2 doses (+ 15 days) + test no older than 48 hours for uk to enter the country (with 6-17 only needing the latter if accompanied by above) - this conversation is about once you’re there
Italy have so far only mandated their version of the green pass to access services (an now government jobs) - which is less restrictive, and good news (if it holds) for uk 12-17 as they will only have one jab at the moment
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You know it makes sense.
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@FrediKanoute, TAC is the French version of the EU cert ...
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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From the website linked to by @primoz,
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COVID-19 Green Certificate
Certificates issued by the health authorities of the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland (including Gibraltar and the Isle of Man, Channel Islands and British bases on the island of Cyprus) are equivalent to those of the European Union for access to activities and services on the Italian territory such as indoor restaurants, museums and cinemas. They can be presented in paper or digital format, in compliance with the requirements established by the circular of 30 June 2021 on the equivalence of vaccination and recovery certificates."
So looks okay and someone has simply miss-interpreted it.
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Poster: A snowHead
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I have the Italian VerificaC19 app on my iphone and I get a green tick when I scan the barcode for my 2nd jab (AZ - cert created from the NHS app).
We are (hopefully) in Selva at Xmas - only grey area is a single jabbed 14 yr old.... right now we cannot get a barcode from the NHS app to check since they are in process of updating the NHS covid app to show that data for 12-16 yr olds.
I did email the superski help about this and they said if the 14 yr old does not get a second jab or green tick - they will have to use test stations in the village to get approval to ride lifts...
Italy rules meant to be getting updated towards end of October.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| sheffskibod wrote: |
I have the Italian VerificaC19 app on my iphone and I get a green tick when I scan the barcode for my 2nd jab (AZ - cert created from the NHS app).
We are (hopefully) in Selva at Xmas - only grey area is a single jabbed 14 yr old.... right now we cannot get a barcode from the NHS app to check since they are in process of updating the NHS covid app to show that data for 12-16 yr olds.
I did email the superski help about this and they said if the 14 yr old does not get a second jab or green tick - they will have to use test stations in the village to get approval to ride lifts...
Italy rules meant to be getting updated towards end of October. |
same as above, just got back from Italy, no problems using the NHS Covid Travel pass where a green pass was required. Just used the QR code for the second pass. Interestingly we used a couple of Gondolas and weren't asked to show the green pass despite it being a requirement.
I can't see them asking to see a greenpass every time you ride a lift but they could ask for one when you purchase the ski pass or do spot checks and then revoke your pass if you're not covered.
There should be an update late next week as the current rules are until 25th October and they usually announce the week before.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| Pejoli wrote: |
| There’s a distinction between getting into Italy, and what you can do once there. |
True, and even when there, it depends from province to province, sometimes even from city to city (it's Italy afterall  ). Here's another link with some more info regarding this, which might come more handy then some tourist info of local city, which might or might not be updated. This salute.gov is official Italian government page, so it's as up to date as it goes considering it's still Italy:
https://www.salute.gov.it/portale/nuovocoronavirus/dettaglioContenutiNuovoCoronavirus.jsp?lingua=english&id=5367&area=nuovoCoronavirus&menu=vuoto
On link above you have list of provinces and which one is in which of risk areas.
And another link is here:
https://www.governo.it/it/articolo/domande-frequenti-sulle-misure-adottate-dal-governo/15638#zone
Unfortunately it's in italian only, but it's not to hard to figure it out. Currently everything is in white and if you click "zona bianca" link it opens below areas with description of measurements.
These few links helped more then anything when we were planning our holidays in Italy in summer. You might need some Google translate, depending how much Italian you speak, but it gives more and better info then any "I have been there and didn't have anything and all was fine" personal or not so personal experiences 
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somewhat ironically the links provided by @primoz, both government sites, give different information re Sicily The top link is up to date and the second isn't which kind of makes the point about how difficult it can be to know what's happening... (Sicily is the only region to have been yellow in the last few months and changed back to white last week)
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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@richb67, I know and I saw that, but consider it's Italy, so it's not that unusual Second one is good for that you have measurements for certain "colors" and for all areas of life gathered all at same place. For accuracy of zones, I would still say first one is more regularly updated then second one.
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| primoz wrote: |
| I know and I saw that, but consider it's Italy, so it's not that unusual |
this is when thumbs up emoji would be useful
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| richb67 wrote: |
| sheffskibod wrote: |
I have the Italian VerificaC19 app on my iphone and I get a green tick when I scan the barcode for my 2nd jab (AZ - cert created from the NHS app).
We are (hopefully) in Selva at Xmas - only grey area is a single jabbed 14 yr old.... right now we cannot get a barcode from the NHS app to check since they are in process of updating the NHS covid app to show that data for 12-16 yr olds.
I did email the superski help about this and they said if the 14 yr old does not get a second jab or green tick - they will have to use test stations in the village to get approval to ride lifts...
Italy rules meant to be getting updated towards end of October. |
same as above, just got back from Italy, no problems using the NHS Covid Travel pass where a green pass was required. Just used the QR code for the second pass. Interestingly we used a couple of Gondolas and weren't asked to show the green pass despite it being a requirement. EDIT is not a requirement at moment only on long distance public transport
I can't see them asking to see a greenpass every time you ride a lift but they could ask for one when you purchase the ski pass or do spot checks and then revoke your pass if you're not covered.
There should be an update late next week as the current rules are until 25th October and they usually announce the week before. |
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Here is another link for Italy in the form of a questionnaire, but answer a couple of questions on your location and recent countries visited and it gives a full breakdown of the current regs that apply to you for entering the country, and then how the green pass applies:
https://infocovid.viaggiaresicuri.it/returningtoitaly.html
I’ve pasted the part about the green pass below - again, the key point for me is the green pass is applicable for uk teenagers with only one dose (assuming you can somehow get that proof if they are under 15 as noted in previous posts):
“ USE OF GREEN PASS IN ITALY. WHEN AND WHERE:
As of August 6, 2021, Italian Authorities have established the mandatory requirement of a “Green Pass” or EU Digital Covid Certificate or equivalent* certificate recognized by the Italian Authorities, for any person aged 12 and above, in Italy, wishing to:
access any indoor dining services;
take part in public events, including cinemas, theatres and sporting events;
visit museums and other cultural institutions;
attend swimming pools, gyms, Spas, wellness and thermal centres, theme and amusement parks, cultural and leisure centres, casinos, gaming halls;
attend exhibitions, trade fairs, conferences and congresses.
As of September 1, a “Green Pass” or EU Digital Covid Certificate, or equivalent* certificate recognized by the Italian Authorities will be compulsory also to board:
airplanes;
ships and ferries for inter-regional transportation (not including ferry connections in the Strait of Messina);
High speed trains (such as Intercity or Frecce);
Buses for inter-regional transportation;
Chartered buses with driver.
A Green Pass to be used for the aforesaid purposes must show proof of either having received one dose of vaccine; or of a negative result of a molecular or antigenic test carried out in the previous 48 hours; or of having recovered from Covid-19 in the previous 6 months. Kindly note that a certificate proving that you have received the first dose of a two-dose vaccine (meaning that you are waiting for the second dose) will not be enough to enter Italy from abroad. Such a certificate is valid only once in Italy. Holders of a vaccination certificate issued by the Health Authorities of the Republic of San Marino are temporarily exempt from the previously mentioned Green Pass requirements, until October 15, 2021, in accordance with article 6 of Legislative Decree of August 6, 2021, n. 111.
*Currently, according to the Italian Ministry of Health, equivalent certificates for national purposes are those issued by Health Authorities in Countries listed in List D, and Israel, if they respond to all requirements set forth by the Italian Ministry of Health. Not all equivalent certificates are sufficient to enter Italy without further requirements. For country-specific information on how to enter Italy from abroad, kindly follow the information provided in the paragraphs above as the "Green Pass in Italy" rules apply only to people who are already in Italy.
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You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
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| sheffskibod wrote: |
I have the Italian VerificaC19 app on my iphone and I get a green tick when I scan the barcode for my 2nd jab (AZ - cert created from the NHS app).
We are (hopefully) in Selva at Xmas - only grey area is a single jabbed 14 yr old.... right now we cannot get a barcode from the NHS app to check since they are in process of updating the NHS covid app to show that data for 12-16 yr olds.
I did email the superski help about this and they said if the 14 yr old does not get a second jab or green tick - they will have to use test stations in the village to get approval to ride lifts...
Italy rules meant to be getting updated towards end of October. |
I am off to Italy in Jan ..but did you print the NHS cert to scan the barcode? I tried that and it has said "not Valid"
Last edited by You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net. on Wed 13-10-21 9:22; edited 1 time in total
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| DaveD wrote: |
| sheffskibod wrote: |
I have the Italian VerificaC19 app on my iphone and I get a green tick when I scan the barcode for my 2nd jab (AZ - cert created from the NHS app).
We are (hopefully) in Selva at Xmas - only grey area is a single jabbed 14 yr old.... right now we cannot get a barcode from the NHS app to check since they are in process of updating the NHS covid app to show that data for 12-16 yr olds.
I did email the superski help about this and they said if the 14 yr old does not get a second jab or green tick - they will have to use test stations in the village to get approval to ride lifts...
Italy rules meant to be getting updated towards end of October. |
I am off to Italy in Jan ..but did you print the NHS cert to scan the barcode? |
To test it I selected to receive an offline copy by email in the NHS app... then I opened that on my PC and scanned with my phone in the Italian VerificaC19 app. All good.
I imagine for travel - printing a few copies (possibly laminating ?) might be the best bet.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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| sheffskibod wrote: |
To test it I selected to receive an offline copy by email in the NHS app... then I opened that on my PC and scanned with my phone in the Italian VerificaC19 app. All good.
I imagine for travel - printing a few copies (possibly laminating ?) might be the best bet. |
I'll try that ..Thanks
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| DaveD wrote: |
| sheffskibod wrote: |
To test it I selected to receive an offline copy by email in the NHS app... then I opened that on my PC and scanned with my phone in the Italian VerificaC19 app. All good.
I imagine for travel - printing a few copies (possibly laminating ?) might be the best bet. |
I'll try that ..Thanks |
It still didnt like it ..
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| DaveD wrote: |
| DaveD wrote: |
| sheffskibod wrote: |
To test it I selected to receive an offline copy by email in the NHS app... then I opened that on my PC and scanned with my phone in the Italian VerificaC19 app. All good.
I imagine for travel - printing a few copies (possibly laminating ?) might be the best bet. |
I'll try that ..Thanks |
It still didnt like it ..
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Are you scanning the 2 of 2 QR code ? It is the one on the left of the NHS covid pass sheet...
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You know it makes sense.
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I did the one on the right ..I will try the  other
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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ah well ...still didnt like it!!
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Poster: A snowHead
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The qr code on printed copy is often not readable as it lacks sufficient definition
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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This is doing my head in. My wife and I are double jabbed and We’ve got two kids, one is 10 so he’s okay but the other is 14 and is still waiting on his first jab. I was hoping to go to France for half term Feb to Les Arc but we go in our motor home and stay at the Huttopia site in BSM. Will he be allowed to use the on site toilet/showers, I’ve emailed Huttopia but not had a reply. Will he be able to ride up to Les Arcs on the funicular? Is this a ski lift or public transport? If I’ve got to get him tested every few days might just not bother going.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| CH1975 wrote: |
| This is doing my head in. My wife and I are double jabbed and We’ve got two kids, one is 10 so he’s okay but the other is 14 and is still waiting on his first jab. I was hoping to go to France for half term Feb to Les Arc but we go in our motor home and stay at the Huttopia site in BSM. Will he be allowed to use the on site toilet/showers, I’ve emailed Huttopia but not had a reply. Will he be able to ride up to Les Arcs on the funicular? Is this a ski lift or public transport? If I’ve got to get him tested every few days might just not bother going. |
Going off current info from my winter employers (doing interviews fr ski patrol in Megeve and others). Only time you will need a pass is for Resturants otherwise you are good to go. If the covid numbers change then all bets are off.
Current fear is the UK (and you can see this in the daily numbers) is no longer trying to control Covid. EU may have to introduce stricker entry requirements. (Again this is from what the French goverment are telling ski lift companies)
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