 Poster: A snowHead
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@Grinning, so how does that affect TAC? Surely with GDPR etc, individual infection data is not shared cross border so how would TAC know you're infected? And even if it does, what's that got to do with vaccination status which is what TAC is certifying? There's no logic to saying it expired because you caught Covid - catching Covid doesn't make you unvaccinated.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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I think you’re reading too much into this. The NHS Covid pass QR code is scanned into TAC. TAC indicates valid or expired.
When you get COVID you lose your NHS COVID Pass but get a fresh one (Covid recovery valid 180 days). Covid recovery pass is recognised as valid by TAC.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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I have just noticed that the testing requirement for 12yo+ to enter France and it says "Self-administered tests are not accepted".
Does that mean I have to physically take my kids somewhere to get them tested? That seems to go against other advice I've seen, and is probably going to make it a LOT more expensive.
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| Timmycb5 wrote: |
I have just noticed that the testing requirement for 12yo+ to enter France and it says "Self-administered tests are not accepted".
Does that mean I have to physically take my kids somewhere to get them tested? That seems to go against other advice I've seen, and is probably going to make it a LOT more expensive. |
Yes is the short answer. Within 24 hours of departure as well for added excitement. We’re using the testing facility at East Midlands Airport on Christmas Eve for a Chunnel on Christmas Day. Not overly expensive though.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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@RobH2017, back bottom.
Not you. The test. I thought I could get one delivered.
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@Timmycb5, you got me worried now! Eurotunnel, on its requirements for entering France, does not mention this. It just says: "2. Negative COVID tests
Unvaccinated passengers over 12 years old require a negative result from a non-NHS PCR test or a non-NHS Antigen (lateral flow) test taken no more than 24 hours before travel. Find a private test provider.
At French border controls you will need to present digital or paper evidence of the negative result from the private test provider."
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@gra, it’s as clear as mud. I’ve only just noticed this extra bit. Eurotunnel used to provide a list of acceptable test providers and then definitely included ones that you could get delivered. They seem to have removed that now.
I’m close to jacking it in. It really doesn’t seem worth it for a long weekend in October.
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@gra, I think the non self administered might be for for children over 12 who are travelling with unvaccinated parents (with a compelling reason to travel).
The holiday companies really should make this simple.
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I used Qured (online supervised) and a friend used c19 (not supervised at all) I was fine at eurotunnel and she flew and it was accepted by verifly/BA.
I think ultimately so long as they are third party certified (and meet the other requirements) they seem to be ok as the certificates don’t specify who is holding the swab.
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I haven’t checked recently but I thought it applied to teenagers with vax parents when I checked which is why I went for the zoom call version but ultimately not sure it mattered.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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| Grinning wrote: |
@ptex I’m sure you’ve already tried adding your most recent vaccination/test/recovery - not your first vaccination.
Both AZ vaxs, including one eu-dodgey batch
It worked in September on the FR AntiCovid app (scanning QR code for 2nd vaccine on NHS Travel (not Domestic)).
It works now having tested +ve PCR for Covid (scanning QR code for “Covid recovery” on NHS Travel (not Domestic)).
I’m sure you’ll crack it. |
@Grinning, thanks. Redownloaded again the NHS certs on the app (tried domestic and travel, vaccine 2), deleted and downleaded tousanticoved as well as Tac Verif - all non valide.
The article in the Guardian this week said that this is a current problem for most UK Covid QR codes, which are still not accpted on the Green Pass yet and sometimes work on country specific apps. Looks like we're in the unlucky group until this is resolved, which it will apprently in the next few days according to the news piece.e
Hope so, cos we're travelling shortly...
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When you get COVID you lose your NHS COVID Pass but get a fresh one (Covid recovery valid 180 days). Covid recovery pass is recognised as valid by TAC.
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@Grinning, do you know what will happen after 180 days. Unlucky enough to have caught COVID, and I’m concerned my recovery pass will expire mid season and I’ll be stuck without pass sanitaire.
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You know it makes sense.
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@ryanjj, just get yourself fully vaccinated.
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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@under a new name, yeah did that pal. But now thanks to catching Covid (while fully vaccinated - I know, I know) I now don’t have a vaccine certificate - just a fecking recovery pass… which expires, and obviously a vaccine certificate does not.
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@rjj501, blimey that’s crap if it invalidates your vaccine certificate. You probably have greater immunity than most now.
Does the vaccine cert kick back in after 180 days? I’ve had a look and can’t see anything about it.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@Timmycb5, no idea! I was hoping Grinning had the inside track as they’ve been pretty knowledgable in this thread!
The only other person I know who got Covid post vax also has the same situation on the NHS Covid Pass website - I’d be interested if anyone has anything different...?
I’d *like to think* that once the recovery pass expires it’ll revert to the vaccine pass, but honestly the way the UK has handled this pandemic, I’m mostly expecting to log into the NHS site and just find a Rick rolling video an ad to meet hot singles in my area.
Currently the QR code for my vax passport I have uploaded into TAC is still validating (wahoo!) but I’m one of those who has been hit by the whole expiring and having to re-upload every 30 days situation. Which is problematic as I currently don’t have anything to upload (apart from the recovery pass which is a stop gap granted).
Also, interestingly, my wife’s third jab hasn’t appeared in the NHS passport thing, which may be an additional problem if the goalposts change to requiring the booster for a pass sanitaire.
I’d best get used to playing Pass Sanitaire Russian Roulette when dining out in about 120 days…!
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| rjj501 wrote: |
| @under a new name, yeah did that pal. But now thanks to catching Covid (while fully vaccinated - I know, I know) I now don’t have a vaccine certificate - just a fecking recovery pass… which expires, and obviously a vaccine certificate does not. |
How weird.... i tested positive the day before my sevond vaccination was scheduled and got my 2nd jab 28 days after that.
Just checked my NHS covid pass on rhe App and my status shows as vaccinated BUT i also seem ro have a recovery pass.
(My vaccination wording is exactly the same as my husband's who never tested positive and he tests twice weekly for work)
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| rjj501 wrote: |
| @under a new name, yeah did that pal. But now thanks to catching Covid (while fully vaccinated - I know, I know) I now don’t have a vaccine certificate - just a fecking recovery pass… which expires, and obviously a vaccine certificate does not. |
How weird.... i tested positive the day before my second vaccination was scheduled and got my 2nd jab 28 days after that.
Just checked my NHS covid pass on rhe App and my status shows as vaccinated BUT i also seem to have a recovery pass.
(My vaccination wording is exactly the same as my husband's who never tested positive and he tests twice weekly for work).
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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[quote="schneeflocke"]
| schneeflocke wrote: |
| rjj501 wrote: |
| @under a new name, yeah did that pal. But now thanks to catching Covid (while fully vaccinated - I know, I know) I now don’t have a vaccine certificate - just a fecking recovery pass… which expires, and obviously a vaccine certificate does not. |
How weird.... i tested positive the day before my second vaccination was scheduled and got my 2nd jab 28 days after that.
Just checked my NHS covid pass on the App and my status shows as vaccinated BUT i also seem to have a recovery pass.
(My vaccination wording is exactly the same as my husband's who never tested positive and he tests twice weekly for work). |
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@schneeflocke, that's really strange. Could it be that you got your 2nd vaccination AFTER testing positive, whereas I'm testing positive after my 2nd vaccination 
Now that it's on my mind, I've just emailed NHS Digital to ask the question. Might be a bug. I could see how in a SQL type query you could replicate this, so it might be a software glitch as opposed to some dastardly plot by HM Gov.
Either way, it's not a today worry as I'm currently covered by my vaccine passport still showing up in TAC (for now as I have the expiry issue affecting some people) and also the recovery cert. But my fear arises from one of the Swiss/French gov suddenly refusing to accept the recovery cert, but I can't access my vaccine one (although some people are saying that if you just show the expired one in TAC it'll validate).
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@rjj501, how come you don't have a vaccination cert.? (I know next to nothing about the UK system)?
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@under a new name, I did have one. So the UK system works as such: you log into the NHS Website and you generate a QR code based on your vaccine records. Pre Covid infection, I could log in and download a PDF containing QR codes which were valid for 30 days and could be scanned into TAC.
But as soon as my NHS number was linked with a positive test for Covid, my vaccine passport could no longer be generated: “No Covid-19 Records Found” it said when I logged in. Same website. Same username. Same password.
I wanted to check as my friend’s vax passport disappeared after a PCR confirmed infection. I did think through that after the 10 day quarantine it’ll appear again, no dramas. After the 10 days, it still wasn’t there but I gained a Covid recovery certificate in its place.
People who had Covid prior to vax as @schneeflocke seem to have both a recovery cert and a vax cert. Myself and my other friend who got Covid post vax JUST have a recovery cert, as if we were never vaccinated.
I still have printed paper copies of my pre infection vaccine certificates but they expire on varying dates in the past. Although, clearly being double vaccinated does not expire, just the crappy NHS system only lets them be valid for 30 days.
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