 Poster: A snowHead
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| AndreSilva wrote: |
Amazing!
Where are your favorite spots in Austria for powder? |
Those two pics were at Zauchensee and Schladming. There are lots of nice piste accessed forest runs and much more available if you can tour or boot pack for 20 minutes.
Last edited by Poster: A snowHead on Tue 23-11-21 22:28; edited 1 time in total
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Are the DPS skis worth the extra? I really like the look of the Pagoda 112 RP's. Currently have a 105 Head Kore but want to add something a little wider. Or would say the Kore 117 be a similar ski being stiff and fairly light
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| mk28 wrote: |
| Are the DPS skis worth the extra? I really like the look of the Pagoda 112 RP's. Currently have a 105 Head Kore but want to add something a little wider. Or would say the Kore 117 be a similar ski being stiff and fairly light |
Fans will say yes. I'd say only having demoed them on occasion is that they are definitely built for Western US conditions rather than specifically for Europe. Is that being pernickety? Yes.
Unless you are skinning them uphill I don't necessarily believe in the lighter = better equation. Heavier can be damper thus give you a broader operating range.
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The Kores are pretty light. I was certainly more of a DPS fanboi when the USD exchange rate was a bit better. I’d struggle to justify paying full sticker price but there’s no doubt they are nice skis
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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This thread prompted me to buy some new skis today. Never been on anything wider that 96 so looking forward to getting into the 21st century on some new +100 planks this winter. 
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| mk28 wrote: |
| Are the DPS skis worth the extra? I really like the look of the Pagoda 112 RP's. Currently have a 105 Head Kore but want to add something a little wider. Or would say the Kore 117 be a similar ski being stiff and fairly light |
I keep buying other skis and then coming back… The Alchemist’s/Pagoda’s are certainly expensive but mine have lasted several seasons of free riding and when you find skis you really like a few hundred chf’s extra is small fry compared to the pleasure they provide. Just bought a pair of Pagoda Tour 112 RP’s in the Dreamtime sale. Hopefully they’re good!
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DPS fan declaration: 138 wide Spoons; “thin” Wailer 110 Alchemist Powderworks; two pairs of Wailer 112s (one in original grey livery and totally trashed with blown edges but can’t bear to throw them away) and the daily driver pair of Pure3s. Pure3s are properly playful.
I’m not going to be tempted by any more Dreamtimes - I’m hoping this quiver will see me through.
Oh, and a cheeky pair of Lotus Tour 124 which are an uphill dream but too chattery downhill for my tastes.
The DPS Wailer family are go-to powder/crud/spring skis.
In the last 5 seasons, the Spoons have been surfed for a total of 5 days in Japan and two days in France in Jan 2020. I took the Spoons out for a third day in France too optimistically and walked them straight back to the locker after recognising my bad decision in the 50m to the first lift.
For the OP - the 110s are Mantra-like (I had the Mantras until 2013) and might make a good first powder ski which can still be used very effectively on piste, spring and in crud. Else the Wailer 112s are so easy to ski.
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if you can find some 2nd hand Volkl Shiro's, buy them. I am your size, and they are excellent for what you are looking for
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On one EOSB I tested the DPS Wailers in 112mm and gave them 8/10, I found the tips a bit bouncy in cruddy terrain but the edge grip was good. Whitedot Ragnaroks in 118mm I gave 9/10, amazingly good fun for such a big ski and a powerful driver across all sort of conditions. I then jumped back on my Bents, 5cm shorter than the Whitedots but 120mm underfoot. 10/10, I just love those skis
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I got to see/fondle Fischer’s all new Ranger line up recently, and they look VERY good, especially the 108 and 116. Definitely more modern/surfy than the current gen. Not sure if they will be released for this season or first at ISPO though.
For the OP: at your size definitely go wider than 102 for powder. At around 70kg I get plenty of use out of 125mm skis - they’re not just for the super deep days, as they also stop you feeling the crust under the dust on the ~20cm days.
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snowHeads are a friendly bunch.
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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@AndreSilva, You are a heavy guy at 100kg, are you also tall? My experience of DPS wailers is they are soft and noodly (I am 75kg and 188cm tall) I think you would overpower DPS wailers, and they are expensive €€€
A slightly stiffer ski, that is easy turning if you are new to powder would work well, something like the Black Crows Atris (108mm) , or the beefier Anima (115mm) would be a good starter for you.
The Head Kore's are good skis, but are directional and quite stiff, they would prob be really good for you as well.
I personally like Kastle Skis, and use the tour orientated TX98 and TX103 for pretty much everything now.
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@AndreSilva, Speak to the guys at https://www.snowcountry.eu/ they are in NL and super helpful. Bought plenty skis from them and quick to respond to questions.
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You know it makes sense.
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minimum 2 weeks of powder ski this season
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I've done a few seasons in interior British Columbia and over a whole season would be ecstatic with 14 real powder days. Probably get the powder board out around 5-7 days per season, that's being able to ride everyday with no job or travel constraints and access to in bound off-piste meaning I can ride fresh powder on high avy days etc.
I think too many ski films, manufactured resort photos etc. give the impression there is a world of bottomless powder skiing, but unfortunately it's not the truth unless you are willing to tour or have money for heliskiing.
I'm not saying don't get a pair of off piste skis, but you need realistic expectations, you will probably end up dealing with chop, ice, spring conditions etc. more often than untracked deep powder.
Renting for the course and trying out as many different options as possible and also chatting with others on the course and in particular your guide should help you make a good decision on what you like and need. Yes renting is expensive, but still cheaper than buying the wrong ski and needing to buy another pair after a season.
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