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Is it still possible to work in Austria as UK Ski Instructor?

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Hi,

I have been trying to look through related threads but haven’t been able to find much so thought I’d ask here:

Is working as an instructor in Austria out of the question now for Brits with no EU passport that have never previously done a season?

Before covid, I was ready to sit BASI L2 and hoping to do a season in Austria. However, given the current situation I don’t see a point in sitting BASI 2 given it’s not worth much now and am wondering if there is even a point of taking the landes 1 route if it is still going to be tricky to get visa/work permit. Feels like such a waste doing all the training and prep for BASI 1&2 to not even be able to use it Sad
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In short, if you already live in Austria and have residency documents, yes.

If not, then you would need a visa D which involves a firm job offer whereby the employer needs to prove that they have been unable to fill the post with Austrian or EU personnel.

Then of course you would need Anwärter or higher, BASI qualifications alone are insufficient (AFAIK).
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Also be aware that the visa D process can take up to 3 months and costs €150. For season start in December, applications would need to be made in person at the relevant Austrian embassy this month.
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@lski, Might be worth doing the Anwarter route as stated above. SIA offer courses and employment after that. Better book soon though, their courses are going fast. https://www.siaaustria.com/?gclid=Cj0KCQjws4aKBhDPARIsAIWH0JV2E6GjUqCRiY_1eQ-pxkjFU2xqaLXZCgt6TjGYF8NHoXRfefDRDqkaAvhcEALw_wcB
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I reckon it will remain pretty difficult until the ski schools discover that they can't get the English speaking instructors. Then there'll be a typical Austrian finangle (however that will work).
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@joffy69, instructors from Austria, Germany, Netherlands, Denmark, Sweden, etc. all speak some English already. And of course because most visitors are from Germany and Austria, those lessons are conducted in German. For Anwärter you need German and one other language (usually English).
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@joffy69, there is a very high level of proficiency in English around here, especially anyone under 40. Most kindergartens have their own English teacher. Austria will be the same. That certainly wont be a reason for applying for a Visa.
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@joffy69, nearly all of the younger Austrian instructors speak English, all of our local instructors that teach adults speak English. All of the Dutch instructors speak perfect English, all of the German instructors that I have worked with speak good English or American. One German guy who worked for us spoke like a Disney cartoon, wonder where he got his linguistic skills from wink .
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Chris_n wrote:
One German guy who worked for us spoke like a Disney cartoon, wonder where he got his linguistic skills from wink .
From watching Disney cartoon? Laughing

That said, I've noticed immigrants who were taken out of their birth country at young age also speak their birth language like a child, as that's the bulk of vocabulary they retain.
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Only pointing out that English instructors are only needed for English speakers, and, until there's a need, there won't be any push back against the regs. I did the Anwarter 30 years ago, and at the time taught mainly Dutch school kids, who, although speaking pretty good german, refused to. Plenty of Oz and Kiwi instructors at that time as well, and they will all have needed visas, so it was certainly possible in the past. Remember, the market is for "completely fluent English lessons" not "just about understandable English lessons". I wasn't being employed to teach anyone but English and Dutch, and, if they'd had Dutch instructors it would only have been English.
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Thanks for the responses everyone. god it’s depressing knowing that it is going to be very difficult/impossible to find work in EU, I’m sure there are many other aspiring instructors feeling the same rolling eyes
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I wouldn't take that from the current situation. The ski instruction market will employ those that fill "the need". At the moment the EU is able and willing to stop UK instructors. When ski schools start losing business they'll put pressure to change regs (unless they don't care about business (not my experience at any rate)).
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As I understand it, BASI is still acceptable in Switzerland, as long as one has done the Eurotest. So, France, Austria and Italy are placing themselves at a commercial disadvantage vis a vis HV. When the ski schools in Austria (whose main advantage IS instruction in your language) notice a lose in business, expect change.
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As I understand it, BASI is still acceptable in Switzerland, as long as one has done the Eurotest. So, France, Austria and Italy are placing themselves at a commercial disadvantage vis a vis HV. When the ski schools in Austria (whose main advantage IS instruction in your language) notice a lose in business, expect change


This is not accurate. Switzerland has never required the eurotest and it isnt part of their system. While they recognise BASI qualifications (although recognition is getting harder) they will not issue new work permits for british passport holders post Brexit
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The reality is that nothing has changed in Austria. The Anwärter is still the lowest recognised qualification for ski instruction and requires two languages, one of which is German. Any non-EU national that wants to work as a ski instructor in Austria will need a Visa D which can be obtained from the British Embassy at a cost of €150 and with a firm job offer and proof of seasonal accommodation. This has not changed. The only change is that the UK has voted for its citizens to become non-EU nationals. That itself is nothing to do with Austrian rules on seasonal work visas and professional qualifications.
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