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Yet another testing question-France/Switzerland

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Dear all

Like many people I suspect, I am planning a trip in December skiing in France but flying to/from Geneva (Swiss side) and self driving.
As things stand now....yes, I know they are likely to change....what would the testing requirements be for someone double jabbed? In particular, would there be additional testing required to go across the France/Swiss border (either way) and on return, would a self test done in France be OK to get me on the plane in Switzerland?


Cheers.
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Look in https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice, yes, it's a UK Gov website, but it has links to the Covid areas of many, many other national websites.
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Thanks, it was specifically about whether having to cross the France/Swiss border created any additional complications and was wondering whether anyone on SHs had actually crossed the border themselves; that said, I suspect tens of thousands do every day for work....
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Doing it for work likely has very different rules than going on holiday.
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@snowhound, I have negotiated with the Swiss gov that whatever else happens, anyone who follows my rules*, may, for a paltry fee (say £250 or so, payable in advance, non-refundable under any circs.) cross freely between FR and CH, despite perhaps otherwise not being allowed to.

* may change at random

Oh. Have I just discovered the secret plans of the Johnson club?
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@snowhound, if you are double jabbed, currently no test required for entry into either France or Switzerland. That applies also to the FR/CH border.
https://www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/en/coming-to-france/coronavirus-advice-for-foreign-nationals-in-france/?fbclid=IwAR2SQhFHk2CkPPZsxwl1fhZw0-Qb1VEnPzTVxyOUW-MLYklN6w7PXaYmknI#sommaire_1

In terms of getting back: the UK currently requires a PCR test within 72 hrs or an antigen test within 48 hrs to re-enter the UK. You need a certificate for this so generally a self-test doesn‘t work though I‘ve heard there are providers in the UK that send them out before you travel and then you do them over video link (QUERED?). In Switzerland you can get an antigen test with certificate at most pharmacies (15 mins turnaround), not sure about France. You can also get them at the Swiss airports but there is a premium on them.

At least locally the FR/CH border is operating „normally“ i.e. just normal random/suspicious checks, 99% traffic goes through without being stopped.
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Gämsbock wrote:
@snowhound,
In terms of getting back: the UK currently requires a PCR test within 72 hrs or an antigen test within 48 hrs to re-enter the UK. You need a certificate for this so generally a self-test doesn‘t work though I‘ve heard there are providers in the UK that send them out before you travel and then you do them over video link (QUERED?).


Qured, I've used them, they're fine. I think a company called Hughes also do them (a bit cheaper) but they may only have a website to guide you as opposed to the Qured vid link.
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Thanks everyone/Gamsbock for the replies-I just wanted to check that going across the Swiss/French border didn't add any additional complications. Hopefully, by December, they will have dropped some of the testing requirements for jabbed passengers once they have got through the peak summer season keeping everyone they can in their own countries.
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As an option and depending of the resort you are heading too, you can consider flying to Lyon instead of Geneva as car hire is by far lower at Lyon than Geneva and you will avoid FR/CH border questions (border was closed last year in december.....)
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@snowhound, @thierryd, by winter if we haven’t collectively decided that the vaccines work (they do) skiing will be the least of our worries …
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@snowhound, @thierryd, by winter if we haven’t collectively decided that the vaccines work (they do) skiing will be the least of our worries …


I understand that, I am just expressing the fact that borders can be closed or something similiar and not always for health reasons (France was on amber+ list for no real reason until recently)...... and even if Switzerland is part of schengen zone they are not part of EU.... One less border to cross both ways and saving on car hire is not a bad deal !
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Gämsbock wrote:
@snowhound, if you are double jabbed, currently no test required for entry into either France or Switzerland. That applies also to the FR/CH border.
https://www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/en/coming-to-france/coronavirus-advice-for-foreign-nationals-in-france/?fbclid=IwAR2SQhFHk2CkPPZsxwl1fhZw0-Qb1VEnPzTVxyOUW-MLYklN6w7PXaYmknI#sommaire_1

In terms of getting back: the UK currently requires a PCR test within 72 hrs or an antigen test within 48 hrs to re-enter the UK. You need a certificate for this so generally a self-test doesn‘t work though I‘ve heard there are providers in the UK that send them out before you travel and then you do them over video link (QUERED?). In Switzerland you can get an antigen test with certificate at most pharmacies (15 mins turnaround), not sure about France. You can also get them at the Swiss airports but there is a premium on them.

At least locally the FR/CH border is operating „normally“ i.e. just normal random/suspicious checks, 99% traffic goes through without being stopped.


Returning to the UK it’s an antigen or PCR within 3 days of arrival. Now France are charging tourists for tests it’s as easy to take one with you from home - C19 testing are £29 and you do the test yourself, take a photo with you passport and email it in - then they send you a certificate by return.
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andy from embsay wrote:
Now France are charging tourists for tests it’s as easy to take one with you from home - C19 testing are £29 and you do the test yourself, take a photo with you passport and email it in - then they send you a certificate by return.
Why bother? The going rate in a French pharmacy is €25 and you get the certificate immediately.
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Raceplate wrote:
andy from embsay wrote:
Now France are charging tourists for tests it’s as easy to take one with you from home - C19 testing are £29 and you do the test yourself, take a photo with you passport and email it in - then they send you a certificate by return.
Why bother? The going rate in a French pharmacy is €25 and you get the certificate immediately.


Because I don’t have to go and find a French pharmacy that’s open and I can do the test in my apartment at a time that suits me? Because a lot of French pharmacists go on holiday in August so I might not be able to find one with appointments available? Because the convenience of the above is worth three pounds fifty?
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@andy from embsay, the pharmacies round here are available 6 days a week until 7pm and you don't need an appointment.

You only need appointments for PCR tests which generally are only available at specialist centres but they're not required for UK entry so it's moot.
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Raceplate wrote:
@andy from embsay, the pharmacies round here are available 6 days a week until 7pm and you don't need an appointment.

You only need appointments for PCR tests which generally are only available at specialist centres but they're not required for UK entry so it's moot.


I’ve heard of quite a few people finding it hard to get LFTs done at pharmacies in August in France. But tbh for us, we’d prefer to spend our time biking and walking (and skiing) than finding a pharmacy when for the same money I can stick one in my bag.
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Re. the Day 2 PCRs on return, does anyone actually check that you complete and post them if you are fully vaccinated? There is no isolation requirement coming back from France and given the cost of them has a huge range, and you just need to show proof that you've booked one in order to get back into the UK...what's to stop you booking the cheapest even if it is from an unreliable company, which may or may not be waiting for you when you get back?
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snowhound wrote:
Re. the Day 2 PCRs on return, does anyone actually check that you complete and post them if you are fully vaccinated? There is no isolation requirement coming back from France and given the cost of them has a huge range, and you just need to show proof that you've booked one in order to get back into the UK...what's to stop you booking the cheapest even if it is from an unreliable company, which may or may not be waiting for you when you get back?


I had a lengthy email conversation with a testing provider about their data policy where I asked a similar question - I wanted to know if it was -ve, do they report it. They were very cagey so I suspect the answer is they don’t, or if they do they do so in bulk (eg a weekly return). I hear T&T when they call people who are isolating are unaware of test status (eg continuing to call when people have done test to release). So I suspect the answer is as long as you have an order number that works on the PLF you’re fine.
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