 Poster: A snowHead
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Learnt lots about working as part of a team, how to get Along with groups of people, living in close quarters for a reasonable stretch of time, Dealing with customers. It was fun, hard work, did lots of socialising and skied more than most of the customers. Whilst not having to save up or cost my parents anything. I was 18 straight out of school. It was never going to be a career, if I was interviewing anyone now and it said in their cv that they had worked ski seasons I would definitely ask more about it.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| Daleskier wrote: |
| Has anybody come up with a cunning plan of how to get seasonal work in the alps (when travel is allowed) for non EU passport holders? |
French foreign legion? They probably have a mountain and arctic warfare cadre or similar.
Actually, get shot (and survive) in Mali etc, then that's your EU citizenship sorted!
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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one way to learn French too - in at the deep end, 100% immersion in the language.
When I was in the jungle, I met several. Frickin' weird bunch. Forced to wear epaulletes in public in the (also frickin' wierd) nightclub, while the regular army guys are allowed to be in civvies.
If I ever see someone skiing with sash and epaullettes, then I'll know it's a brexit evading brit 
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| ecureuil wrote: |
| ... Unexplained gaps on a CV are an immediate question mark / red flag to some employers and can be an easy way to sift down hundreds of CVs to something more manageable, particularly now that some companies do this step via software. "Low paid casual work" that fills a gap might just be what gets you through to the interview stage! |
That's standard in technology, but the key word is "unexplained", which is a show stopper for me at least as I'm too lazy to call someone in to ask them to explain what their CV should tell me. Life is too short.
I once had a direct CV with a year's unexplained gap in it. I was obviously going to need to know what was in the gap and thought it cheaper for everyone to ask before offering an
interview. It turned out that the gap was the world tour for his rock band, which had had considerable success. It stuck in my mind as that fact (along with his first class degree and
obvious technical experience) would have got him the job pretty much without an interview as it showed he was capable of excellence.
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But that was pre-Brexit. Didn't we all vote to be fruit pickers, not ski instructors?
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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Joe Ponte, CEO of Hotelplan (so Inghams, Esprit Ski) told me in this interview that their recruitment will be focussed on EU passport holders
https://audioboom.com/posts/7806224-a-ski-podcast-special-joe-ponte-ceo-hotelplan-uk
However, I am aware of other tour ops who are looking at other ways round this, including the trawl through French bureaucracy:
“If we want to recruit a British worker to work in Méribel, we'll have to prove there's no French worker for the job by advertising it for 8 weeks at Pôle Emploi, then apply for a work permit taking a few months, and then the worker will need a visa from the French embassy."
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| philwig wrote: |
| ecureuil wrote: |
| ... Unexplained gaps on a CV are an immediate question mark / red flag to some employers and can be an easy way to sift down hundreds of CVs to something more manageable, particularly now that some companies do this step via software. "Low paid casual work" that fills a gap might just be what gets you through to the interview stage! |
That's standard in technology, but the key word is "unexplained", which is a show stopper for me at least as I'm too lazy to call someone in to ask them to explain what their CV should tell me. Life is too short.
I once had a direct CV with a year's unexplained gap in it. I was obviously going to need to know what was in the gap and thought it cheaper for everyone to ask before offering an
interview. It turned out that the gap was the world tour for his rock band, which had had considerable success. It stuck in my mind as that fact (along with his first class degree and
obvious technical experience) would have got him the job pretty much without an interview as it showed he was capable of excellence.
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But that was pre-Brexit. Didn't we all vote to be fruit pickers, not ski instructors? |
Yes, I don't think taking a spell off to ski is a problem. Just put it on the CV so there is no unexplained gap.
Like the rock band story.
When I was a management consultant and doing recruiting we were told a salutory tale.
The format for first round was that a candidate would do three interviews, one with a partner and two with more junior consultants. Each of the interviewers would be targeted with testing for evidence in a particular area of capability. At the wash up meeting a candidate could only get through to second round if they had ticked each box so it was important that an interview extracted evidence if it was there to be found. Often interview days were full with each interviewer seeing 8 candidates. Sometimes there wasn't much time to read CVs.
The story goes that a consultant asked one candidate to give him an example of where he had led a group to achieve a demanding goal. The candidate, a kiwi, looked at him a bit oddly and gave a rather dull and uninspiring example from his time at university.
At the wash up meeting the interviewer reported that he hadn't found good enough evidence of leadership skills. The partner ripped into him. Did you read his CV?
er... (fumbling his papers)...
David Kirk, former captain of world cup winning all blacks in 1987
Kirk had assumed that he really didn't need to dwell on that bit of his experience!
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I've also heard that 'secondment' may still be possible this winter. Moutiers is very influential (big tax take), so watch this space...
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| iainm wrote: |
| I've also heard that 'secondment' may still be possible this winter. Moutiers is very influential (big tax take), so watch this space... |
Secondment of UK passport holders working for UK companies?
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You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
You'll get to see more forums and be part of the best ski club on the net.
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@Iainm, technically secondment is still possible, but this only extends to social security cooperation. The requirements for a work permit & visa still need to be met.
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