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@Perty, I know, it's very irritating. And frankly, a bit easily got round, if they don't check whether you go through another state that isn't in that status.

And, a bit (I know we've seen mistakes made before so it's not totally unreasonable) over cautious given very limited to no evidence of significant vaccine escape.
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@Perty, acccording to this page:https://www.diplomatie.gouv.fr/en/coming-to-france/coronavirus-advice-for-foreign-nationals-in-france/ the requirement is to self-isolate for 7 days. Not sure if it is still to be updated for today's announcement, but if not you might still be able to do most of that, apart from the meals
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Still waiting on the FR government's announcement on when the quarantine starts and any further info, maybe later today........
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@under a new name, France just seems to be wobbling a bit more than others (Spain has gone mental..) Im interested to see how they handle the ‘Bordeaux’ variant
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All a bit bizarre really - one wonders how many B.1.617.2 variant cases there are in France, Austria, Germany?

Probably impossible to say as they are not sequencing (anything like) as much as the UK.

I would find it hard to believe that this variant wont become the dominant one all across Europe shortly.
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France, Germany, Austria will all have as many cases of the variant detected in India as we do. Its just tit got tat, jealously and sour grapes over the success of the vaccine rollout and Brexit, they're itching to impose restriction on us.

It's so frustrating for normal folks who just want to get on with their lives.

It's been widely reported that vaccine offers excellent protection against all variant and the recent variant is not as transmissible as first thought, our media and modellers off the scale once again, I can't see that changing.

Feels like part of UK govt plan to keep us all local this year.

I do hope those with property or wish to holiday in France manage to and France sees sense before the summer season starts. Wondering if they need too see sense though, understand France enjoyed a great resurgence in domestic tourism last year. Desperately hope they need our money for winter!!!
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I’m starting to get a bit nervous about all this. I’m in the U.K, but move to Andorra in August (at some point) to start a new job on 1st Sept. I was banking on things getting better by then, but not 100% sure now! To move out there, I obviously need to drive all my stuff out through France and can really do without it all taking an extra couple of weeks.

I’ve been fully vaccinated for quite some time.

However, I can fully see why France and Austria are getting nervous. I’m a teacher and live/work in one of the current hotspot areas. My current school and my previous school have managed the whole pandemic without one positive case, as have many others in our local area. That is until the last couple of weeks. It seems this new variant is transmitting much easier amongst children - it’s evident in the age range statistics published by our local council. One of my class tested positive on Sunday so I’m in isolation at the moment, as are a few other classes at my school. My PCR came back negative thankfully. It’s a very similar picture in many schools in our area. One of my colleagues at another school tested positive a couple of weeks ago. She had been fully vaccinated, and yet still felt quite ill when she had it.

Whilst most adults over 30 around here are vaccinated, very few, if any children or younger adults have been. You can see that it could be quite easy for vaccinated adults to take out unvaccinated children on a trip with them and those children manage to develop COVID after a negative PCR test.


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@Nadenoodlee, @James77, yeah, French broinlaw says it's all to do with fish. I thought Norway had sorted that out?
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-57256859
Well that’s the summer break gone
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From Monday 31st May travel to France is only with "essential" reasons, ie not tourism, visitors must show a -ve PCR test taken no more than 48 hours before arrival in France and then must self-isolate for 7 days, this is mandatory and not "sur l'honneur" as previously, this may be enforced by the police with potential hefty fines if not followed.......
No end date is given yet, guess that will depend on the Indian variant status in the Uk
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@KenX, the scuttlebutt round here that it's more to do with fish and general FR/UK political relations than any of your steenkin' variants ... most people getting Pfizer/Moderna which are nearly (if not as) as effective vs b.1.167.x as any other variant ... they're maybe a bit more transmissible, but a convenient cover.
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@KenX, do you know what the guidance is for those transiting through France?
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Sorry, no...
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Was on the evening radio news. France has had 15 cases of the Indian variant. ALL of them linked to travel from India, direct to France. None from UK, so either being very cautious, or an ulterior motive.

But then, we are talking about the French....... rolling eyes rolling eyes
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brianatab wrote:
Was on the evening radio news. France has had 15 cases of the Indian variant. ALL of them linked to travel from India, direct to France. None from UK, so either being very cautious, or an ulterior motive.

But then, we are talking about the French....... rolling eyes rolling eyes


If France has identified 15 cases, it is absolutely nailed on that the real number is significantly larger.

They are gene sequencing fewer cases than Wales.............
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@brianatab, ulterior motive sans doubt
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Sorry, no...


Thank you.
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Does anyone know what entails 'essential' travel ?? As the only surviving relative my partner needs to get to Nice to sort out an ageing and ailing aunt, currently hospitalised. She has been scanning F/O and French embassy websites but has found no definition of 'essential' or what is needed to prove it. Any suggestions would be most welcome
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@nickH, is she a French citizen or EUresident? If so, that is a compelling reason. I've looked at the EXIT attestation and life threatening illness of a close relative is mentioned on there, but the entry attestation is rather vague. The website is https://www.interieur.gouv.fr/Actualites/L-actu-du-Ministere/Certificate-of-international-travel
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If my apartment were to flood/burn down/collapse it appears I wouldn't have a compelling reason to travel either.
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thanks for the link@Hells Bells, the aunt is a long term resident in france but we're not sure of her exact status. From what I can see there is no mention of anything to do with ailing family, however wanting to study French as a foreign language is compelling enough for entry to be allowed. Perhaps my partner could be going to her aunt for French lessons !!!
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@nickH, relaxation of the rules from Wednesday if your partner is vaccinated. https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2021/jun/04/coronavirus-live-news-japan-taiwan-vaccine-fauci-calls-wuhan-lab-records?page=with:block-60b9f3308f082ac930ae9fb8#block-60b9f3308f082ac930ae9fb8 (at 10.35)
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that is good news - thanks for the link @Hells Bells
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Still need the quarantine on return to end. Not optimistic about our summer trip to Chamonix...
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@iainm, it does seem rather perverse that in a couple of weeks I'll be totally free to travel around the EU (without even a PCR test) and yet I will still need to quarantine if I want to return to the UK.
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Remember also that the other, parallel element to this is the FCDO classification in particular the 'does not recommend travel to' designation. For older (60+ typically) UK travellers, this designation means we can't get travel insurance*. So even if the traffic lights are green, we can't drive the car (to stretch the metaphor). Perversely, we're probably the group that can better-handle mandatory quarantine economically than younger ages, as we're more likely to be retirees. And have more time to organise and do tests. But as long as the FCDO designation prevents travel cover, we can't go.

[*Yes, younger age groups can, but when I've checked the insurers providing travel cover against FCDO recommendation, I've been ineligible due to age.]
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@iainm, it does seem rather perverse that in a couple of weeks I'll be totally free to travel around the EU (without even a PCR test) and yet I will still need to quarantine if I want to return to the UK.
It's driving me mad. Who would have thought I'd be agreeing with Theresa May - proof it's a crazy world!
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