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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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@Timc, you are quoting from a section relating to unvaccinated people. You would also first have to get over the hurdle of pressing grounds to travel
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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@pateman99, Nope. Children over 12 (and under 1 do not need a compelling need to travel if they are travelling with their fully vaccinated parents.
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I'm just going through all of the paperwork for a trip to France at October half term, and I'm genuinely beginning to think it's not feckin worth it. What a minefield.
Can anyone answer this..... For children over 12, with fully vaccinated parents, do they just tick the same things as the parents on the declaration honneur? I.e. no symptoms, no contact, and ignore the bit about doing a test on arrival and isolating?
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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@Timmycb5, that is what I did and actually nobody asked for the declaration at all in the end…
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@Timmycb5, the declaration d'honneur is something you are expected to have, but it isn't anything the border staff are worried about. Possibly if you were stopped by the gendarmes for any reason they would want to inspect all paperwork, but we have not been asked.
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@j b, ah OK, cheers. I need to chill out a bit more.
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@Timmycb5, it’s the need for single jabbed teens to have a LF test less than 24 hours before travel that’s a pain for us.
We need to take test, set off for overnight in Ashford & hope
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@Jonny996, I'm using a test from Excalibur for one of my kids on an upcoming trip. It reads the cartridge result and generates the certificate in the app in real time. Might be worth considering.
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Or fly to Geneva and transit into France from there?
This requirement for UK teenagers to go through extensive testing rigmarole is something which has been barely reported in the main media. I am hoping with more people now hoping to travel, it gets some serious traction. I have no problem with mine getting 2 x jabbed and respect the choice of those who don't. I just want mine to be given the option!
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@j b, the staff at the gate Edinburgh this morning were asking what your destination was and to show your declaration d'honneur if France ...
funnily, at GvA passport control, Mrs U on her French passport was asked if she'd been vaxxed or not, and casually waved thru, whereas as I, an unclean brit had to show passport, carte de sejour, swiss locator, declaration d'honneur, *grandparents birth certificates, great grandparents wedding certificates, final decree from divorcing Mrs U mk1 ...
* somewhat exaggerating from this point onwards
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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I’m adding the Brexit challenges into the mix & taking dog for first time since rule changes.
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@under a new name, wow you must look a very suspicious individual!
I guess the fact people aren't (usually) asked for those papers doesn't mean you shouldn't have filled them in ready to present.
@Jonny996, is anything available at the shuttle terminal? We went over on the Rotterdam ferry and Holland (at the time, not sure if still the case) required a lateral flow test from all people arriving from the UK; P&O has set up a testing station at the ferry terminal in Hull to sort that out. Clearly an overnight ferry has a bigger potential problem when a test has to be within the previous 24 hours, but I would have thought other places would have exploited the potential market.
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You know it makes sense.
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I think @snowhound, has it spot on, they need to start letting the 12-17 year olds get their second jabs otherwise Europe sees them as unvaccinated
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Poster: A snowHead
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@under a new name, I just wish the media on this side of the channel has cottoned on as well. The impact on 12-17s seems to have been forgotten yet again.
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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| snowdave wrote: |
| @Jonny996, I'm using a test from Excalibur for one of my kids on an upcoming trip. It reads the cartridge result and generates the certificate in the app in real time. Might be worth considering. |
@Jonny996, we used and will be using (next week) an LFD from Chronomics, results instantaneous on a web portal, print or export and keep with you. Price of Chronomics has dropped to £23 (or £19 with discount), and after today's announcement I am about to buy more to use as day2 on return.
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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| midgetbiker wrote: |
| snowdave wrote: |
| @Jonny996, I'm using a test from Excalibur for one of my kids on an upcoming trip. It reads the cartridge result and generates the certificate in the app in real time. Might be worth considering. |
@Jonny996, we used and will be using (next week) an LFD from Chronomics, results instantaneous on a web portal, print or export and keep with you. Price of Chronomics has dropped to £23 (or £19 with discount), and after today's announcement I am about to buy more to use as day2 on return. |
Thanks for both those recommendations for commercial Day 2 tests. Very much looking forward to using the collective experience from fellow snowHeads this winter.
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| snowdave wrote: |
| @Jonny996, I'm using a test from Excalibur for one of my kids on an upcoming trip. It reads the cartridge result and generates the certificate in the app in real time. Might be worth considering. |
Is Excalibur the system that only uses an app, and if so is it still true that it is only an Apple app and not (yet) available for Android?
I might be barking up the wrong tree, but if not it's worth getting that out there.
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Anyway, snowHeads is much more fun if you do.
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| midgetbiker wrote: |
Is Excalibur the system that only uses an app, and if so is it still true that it is only an Apple app and not (yet) available for Android?
I might be barking up the wrong tree, but if not it's worth getting that out there. |
Website says it works with both Android and iOS - I've only tested the iOS app so can't validate that.
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@midgetbiker, that’s the one I was recommended, though I struggled to get on their website yesterday. Must have had lots of traffic
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@snowdave, OK, thx, either it's a different product to the one I'm thinking of or they have developed the Android app now. Is it about £20, the one I was thinking of was?
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@snowhound, yep, I don't (given no one got to ski last year) changing their system just for the uk.
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@midgetbiker, yep, sounds like the same one. Its £15.50 via the BA website, so not only is it the fastest option, it's also currently the cheapest.
However, until 22nd we won't know which of these tests are valid for UK entry, nor will we be able to get the vital code for the UK paperwork, so I'm holding off buying any more.
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@snowdave, Yep, I went onto Chronomics this morning to buy more, but thought better of it and decided to wait until a few days before we head back on the 30th.
Chronomics is £18.80 if you use a discount code from an airline, or go in through the BA portal.
Hopefully all the pre-travel LFD tests will just be re-packaged as 2 day LFD and the pricing will stay as is (or better still keep falling).
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On a linked but different subject, does anyone know if LFD's taken out from the UK (like Excalibur, Chronomics, Living Well, etc) will work as the negative test needed every 3 days in France for the unvaxed?
Has anyone tried to use the QR code on a 'fit to fly' negative LFD result paperwork and import it into TAC to see if it generates a PS?
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And love to help out and answer questions and of course, read each other's snow reports.
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I am pretty sure the test needs to be done in France-the pre-departure test to get into France does not count.
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@snowhound, that's a shame. I just hope they allow my 16yos to get a second jab before my skiing holiday. I don't mind forking out for 1 kid (my lad is 13), but splashing another €180 (6 tests) so they can use the pool and go for a bite to eat is verging on prohibitively expensive.
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You know it makes sense.
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Yep, looks like that idea is not a flyer. Just tried to import an old negative PCR test, hoping it would come back as ok but out of date, no dice it just said wrong format and pointed me to some info that implied it only accepts negatives generated through a French results portal.
Ho hum.
I'll try an old negative LFD fit to fly result, but if you hear nothing here then assume it's a bust (which I expect).
Last edited by You know it makes sense. on Fri 15-10-21 10:30; edited 1 time in total
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Otherwise you'll just go on seeing the one name:
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Interestingly, the apartment block we are visiting in December (P&V Les Menuires) are treating single jab as OK for use of the pool. I checked with the apartment owner before making the booking.
But public pools might have a different policy.
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Poster: A snowHead
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Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
Obviously A snowHead isn't a real person
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Another question:
Anyone know if going for an antibody test in France and getting a positive result would generate a French proof of infection cert?
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Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
Well, the person's real but it's just a made up name, see?
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Yep when we had antigen tests in France we got a full EU QR certificate downloadable from the central system.
You get just random private company bits of paper for the U.K. travel tests so definitely not a runner.
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@Skimum1, thx.
Next week isn't so bad, knocking off travel days we'll only be in resort 8 days so a couple of pharmacy tests will cover her and only cost €60.
Three weeks at Christmas and the same at Easter, that's a different kettle of fish.
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@midgetbiker, how old is she? Been looking into it, and it looks like 16/17 yo's are likely to get the second dose around the 12 week mark. That'll be 2 out of my 3 fully jabbed, which will just leave my lad who I have to pay to get tests for.
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@Timmycb5, 15 and just recovered, won't get the first jab until late Nov. Won't be 16 until May (immediately post ski season of course).
I mean if she's old enough to play Lacrosse in an under 19s squad, then plainly she's old enough for 2 jabs, surely no one can deny the obvious logic of that! 
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@midgetbiker, Oh man, the timing sucks! My lad (13) will be recovered AND jabbed by the end of Nov, so technically we should all be fine, but thanks to the crap system we have, I'll be forking out £100 on entirely unnecessary tests just for him!
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@Timmycb5, I had thought to get her 1st vaxed in France on a temp CV reg number in late Oct, reject UK offer of jab in Nov, then 2nd jabbed in France in mid Dec. Then it would be a week of neg LFD's until just before Xmas, and then away we go!
We'll see.
Annoyingly about 50% of her classmates are double jabbed already. They are either Spanish, French, Chinese, HK, Mexican, US, etc, etc. The US kids have just been tripping off to the base up the road to get their 2 jabs.
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| Skimum1 wrote: |
Yep when we had antigen tests in France we got a full EU QR certificate downloadable from the central system.
You get just random private company bits of paper for the U.K. travel tests so definitely not a runner. |
@skimum1 - how did that work? Did you have to go to a clinic or could you do by post. We are travelling Christmas. My 14yr old had covid in July so will be just under 6 mths, still haven't been given date for 1st Jab, so no way will they fit 2 in before end December (even if the rules change).
Now if we could get a French antigen test that ticked the box that could be a lot easier. Otherwise will be asking about pharmacies in La Plagne !
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Last edited by Ski the Net with snowHeads  on Fri 15-10-21 14:08; edited 1 time in total
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