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Arno wrote:
jedster wrote:
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@snowball, no worries, it's not mine. I'm the skier but the photographer was @offpisteskiing

anyway, still don't see the name of the line Toofy Grin

@Sharkymark, <cough> first descents are probably a bit unfair unless you were there


It looks like a superb ski - fantastic!
I reckon OPS could have caught you at a more flattering moment tho - stills can be a bit unfair wink Toofy Grin


I thought my form looked OK otherwise I wouldn't have posted it Laughing

It is a great line but quite spicy access. Not long but a bit of an exposed scramble IIRC


I don't mind that - think I prefer it to a steep ski with shark teeth.

It looks steep and given pics tend to understate that suspect it is! I was just having a little tease, looks like one of the moments on steep soft snow when you get a little inside and the downhill ski wanders off slightly - only noticeable because you were snapped in that moment.
I have the feeling (based on not many data points) that these days guides work quite hard on getting their photo skills to the point they can provide flattering momentos to clients - good for customer loyalty Very Happy Very Happy
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Here is a good pic I found on there internet of the entry: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_l6irNfQ_uMU/Sc-mi9MoDqI/AAAAAAAAAiI/tWl3GB2VPQE/s1600-h/Valdez+6.JPG
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@snowball, that one actually makes it look more steep than it is

I quite like this one (a) because it has me in it and (b) because it gets Mt Pourri in the background

IMG_1142.JPG by Ian Scorah, on Flickr
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@Arno, cracking photo.
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@Arno, cracking photo.

+1
beautiful and very atmospheric
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Yeah, that's an absolute cracker. This is a fun game. It's a shame it took a global pandemic for the forum to get round to this.
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@Arno, cracking photo.


+3
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Yes, @Arno, not a line we’ve had before - line of the longest skin - Pépin: Lines courtesy of http://france2wheels.com/bellecote-north-face-never-on-monday/
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@Grinning, nice one - I've done Canadiens a couple of times - it's an amazing face

@BobinCH, @gorilla, @jedster, @jbob, thanks - it was taken on my camera IIRC but not by me (obvs). Can't remember if it was OPS or someone else in the group.

Anyway, here is my submission. I think there is something in there which is a dead giveaway if you have been to this place:

by [url=https://www.flickr.com/photos/scorah/]Ian Scorah, on Flickr
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Hairpins on the road so looks like Portillo
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Which would make it something off Roca Jack so I'll say Super C
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Which would make it something off Roca Jack so I'll say Super C


Well spotted sir! Hairpins the giveaway
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I've got bot all in gnarly couloir pics so someone else have a crack. They are about the gnarliest hairpins I've ever seen given the dead lorries I saw lying between them on the drive up.
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I had a look at the Stelvio pass on FATMAP cos of the hairpins Laughing

Here’s our skin and descent track for Pépin

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@Dave of the Marmottes, imagine trying to keep up with the Romanian driving mad skillz of Horizon, Irbis and their mate Alex up them!
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@Grinning, looks like the end of the gasex line under Cime Caron in Val T
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I'm clearly a day late Laughing
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I'm clearly a day late Laughing
excusable: minutes, not hours or days Little Angel
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That maybe but this isn't: I'm lost; what line are we guessing at the moment?
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Arno wrote:
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@snowball, no worries, it's not mine. I'm the skier but the photographer was @offpisteskiing

anyway, still don't see the name of the line Toofy Grin

@Sharkymark, <cough> first descents are probably a bit unfair unless you were there


It looks like a superb ski - fantastic!
I reckon OPS could have caught you at a more flattering moment tho - stills can be a bit unfair wink Toofy Grin


I thought my form looked OK otherwise I wouldn't have posted it Laughing

It is a great line but quite spicy access. Not long but a bit of an exposed scramble IIRC


Burst mode would probably be the best option to maximise 'pose-age', but then it is time-consuming enough going through the photos I take in a normal winter, I can't imagine having to do the same with bursts and all the extra images that would entail...!!

@snowball - my lawyers will be in touch shortly for my fees for image use Happy (had a really random occurrence many moons ago when a 2001 photo of me from my very first website turned up on a very well known US ski touring website...!!)

Now I think about it I will need to look up what year that was (2010?? @Arno ??) as I have fairly systematically been watermarking photos that go on the www for a while now...(since the US incident anyway!).


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@Arno wow - I just checked - that was 2009 !! The inaugural Steep Vanoise tm !!
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Goodness, I've only been gone a couple of hours and the crowd have arrived (and perhaps gone again!)

Bellecote North face: Cairn a couple of times, Canadian once, and Grand Face Nord twice.

Is there a live pic question?
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A very famous face, but has anyone skied the gully to the right of the lift station in this pic, with the rock face on skier's left? You can't really see the gully here because it is hidden by the rock face.



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And here is one to guess: a view from the top and another looking up at the huge-cornice entry from a short way down


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Alagna?
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North of Salati heading back down to Alagna?
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Wrong country.
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And here is one to guess: a view from the top and another looking up at the huge-cornice entry from a short way down



Easy Gully, Nevis Range?
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@snowball's pic at 18:56 looks like the Schindler Spitze at St. Anton, though I don't know the names of the gully. I've not skied any of the serious gullies, but have made first tracks to create the traverse round to the right of the pic to ski back down under the schindlergratbahn. I've also seen someone caught in a slide down the traverse, though fortunately not too serious
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Yes, the first is the Schindler Spitz - an easy one. The couloirs are famous but for quite a few years now you have had to climb over railings or other barriers to go down most of the couloirs. Despite that most are still quickly skied out. The one I mentioned we made first tracks, taken down by a guide, and I wouldn't have felt able to judge its avalanche risk myself. Other than my group I've not met anyone who skied it but perhaps there are others on here. It would be astonishing if there were not, with such an obvious gully right in the middle of St Anton's skiing.

@JackSkier, YES, it is Easy Gully, on the back-skiing at Nevis Range (Aonach More), right by the top of the top lift. A well known challenge for the local skiers. Scotland has lots of good skiing, though nothing has big vertical by Alpine standards. Easy Gully was so called by climbers for whom it was an easy climb.

Over to you.


Usually you can avoid the cornice by going off the left edge and skiing in under it. (not my photo though I think I may know the skier).
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Yes, the first is the Schindler Spitz - an easy one. The couloirs are famous but for quite a few years now you have had to climb over railings or other barriers to go down most of the couloirs. Despite that most are still quickly skied out. The one I mentioned we made first tracks, taken down by a guide, and I wouldn't have felt able to judge its avalanche risk myself. Other than my group I've not met anyone who skied it but perhaps there are others on here. It would be astonishing if there were not, with such an obvious gully right in the middle of St Anton's skiing.


I've certainly skied the first 2 or 3 and am pretty sure I've skied the one you mention too. Can remember skirting round the fence and traversing for a long while before dropping down. Typical, I don't get out of Austria much so couldn't call the other great descents others have put up, as soon as one comes up that I know, I miss it.

Once after a huge overnight dump we were all excited and got off the lift at the top. The guide didn't look too sure about skiing it and told us to wait for a minute. He was jumping up and down at the top for ages (10 min+) trying to get it to release. Other skiers were passing him and skiing down or traversing further for the other descents on that face. In the end he didn't take us down and I can remember feeling a bit cheated at the time, thinking we had paid for a guide yet others were getting to ski where we could have had first tracks only to pass. It avalanched shortly afterwards.
We went over to Rendl and he did the same on another face that avalanched that day too.
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In the end he didn't take us down and I can remember feeling a bit cheated at the time, thinking we had paid for a guide yet others were getting to ski where we could have had first tracks only to pass.


As I understand it (limited given there is no way I could ever have been a guide) that is one of the hardest bits about guiding. I went to one of Henry's Avalanche Talks and in response to a question he admitted he had skiied things which on reflection he shouldn't have done because he felt this sort of pressure from clients (not saying YOU broadcast that pressure but some do). He agreed with one of the audience who asked "Should I be telling my guides that they shouldn't feel under any pressure ski lines that they are suspicious of?". Said he felt that he could help the guide make better decisions. A guide I climbed with a couple of years ago said his pet hate was ski clients who get pissed off when he won't go somewhere other people are skiing.
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A very famous face, but has anyone skied the gully to the right of the lift station in this pic, with the rock face on skier's left? You can't really see the gully here because it is hidden by the rock face.



I thought I recognized that pic! From 2010


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A guide I climbed with a couple of years ago said his pet hate was ski clients who get pissed off when he won't go somewhere other people are skiing.


It's not always possible to get away from the crowds but I'm more likely to get pissed off if the guide just takes us places where others have already been.
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I went to one of Henry's Avalanche Talks and in response to a question he admitted he had skiied things which on reflection he shouldn't have done because he felt this sort of pressure from clients (not saying YOU broadcast that pressure but some do).


Must admit we had skied it before but the conditions weren't so great (chopped up mash lower down). When we saw from the lift that there was only one track in there with fresh powder we assumed it was good to ski. We knew it would get tracked out very quickly and it was now or never for fresh tracks. We were pretty ignorant at the time of the risks and how a guide determined whether it was good to ski or not. As if the guide had x-ray eyes and could see every danger and a quick look should be enough - we're a little less ignorant now.
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@JackSkier, YES, it is Easy Gully, on the back-skiing at Nevis Range (Aonach More), right by the top of the top lift. A well known challenge for the local skiers. Scotland has lots of good skiing, though nothing has big vertical by Alpine standards. Easy Gully was so called by climbers for whom it was an easy climb.

Over to you.


Usually you can avoid the cornice by going off the left edge and skiing in under it. (not my photo though I think I may know the skier).


Yeah - the skiing at Nevis Range is surprisingly good. Bold Rush on the west face of Aonach Mor is probably in my top 5 most memorable descents.

I'll keep it Scottish with this photo from Jan 2020:

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@JackSkier, great pics
Looks a bit like a gully off the back of Liathach I climbed years ago. Don't think it gets skied too often but that's my guess
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I have really wanted to ski a couple of the Rush gullies since I bought the off piste guide books for Aonach More and Glencoe areas. However I haven't skied in Scotland since 4 or 5 years ago when I first skied Diagonal Gully(which I featured a few pages back).
Of course I already knew Aladins which is easier to find and get back from (top 1/4 below. See the guy climbing at the top. Not my photo). My last time there the top was horribly icy, but after the hip that you can see it was lovely.


Good info on Scottish steeper skiing here http://www.steepscotland.info/index/


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@JackSkier, I don't know that one and can't remember seeing a photo. I'll just say Y Gully, though I've only seen it from a distance. However the mountains opposite look a bit too close.

By the way, JackSkier and Arno, talking of my admittedly limited knowledge of Scottish skiing, do either of you know Craig Cameron? I think that might be him in the Easy Gully photo, 4 back. He is one of the skiers on this rather nice film of Scottish skiing, along with someone I've skied with a lot (but mostly in the Alps) Andrew Napier.
http://youtube.com/v/70OcPt3lnLE


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